A PSA from the Carbon Regulatory Offset Committee

This rather amusing video was produced by a project of Greenpeace. While we agree with their assertion that carbon credits are a bad idea, we strongly disagree with their “solution.” Rather than carbon credits, Greenpeace seeks draconian and unrealistic cuts in carbon emissions that would cast the civilized world into a preindustrial state, all over unproven and hotly contested anthropogenic global warming theories.

GlobalClimateScam.com doesn’t support either idea.

See the CROC BLOG for more.

  • Neil F. AGWD

    Hmm… Let’s see…. CO2 emissions are up….. Temperatures are on a flat to downward trend. Kinda blows those theories all to hell…. Don’t it?

    http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/03/08/3-of-4-global-metrics-show-nearly-flat-temperature-anomaly-in-the-last-decade/

  • paul wenum

    Never changes does it?

  • Neil F. AGWD

    We have a prediction from the NSIDC. This is from the Sept. 17 edition of the Arctic Sea Ice News & Analysis:
    http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/

    “Conditions in context

    This year, the minimum extent did not fall as low as the minimums of the last two years, because temperatures through the summer were relatively cooler. The Chukchi and Beaufort seas were especially cool compared to 2007. Winds also tended to disperse the ice pack over a larger region.

    While the ice extent this year is higher than the last two years, scientists do not consider this to be a recovery. Despite conditions less favorable to ice loss, the 2009 minimum extent is still 24% below the 1979-2000 average, and 20% below the thirty-year 1979-2008 average minimum. In addition, the Arctic is still dominated by younger, thinner ice, which is more vulnerable to seasonal melt. The long-term decline in summer extent is expected to continue in future years.”

    That’s the prediction. So remember this. We shall see.

  • Rob N. Hood

    America has always been a country with its full and fair share of flaws, but for quite some time during the middle part of the twentieth century, we got one thing reasonably right. There was a bargain then, between elites and the government and the public. According to the terms of the deal, the aristocracy would still be fantastically rich, but there would be limitations on their wealth, because some of that wealth, some substantial amount, needed to be shared with the working people and the middle class, and it was the role of government to make sure that that happened. Many among the well-to-do even shared that consensus.

    Since Ronald Reagan rode into town, however, that deal is off the table, replaced by what is essentially a new New Deal – or, more accurately, simply the Bad Old Deal. Under the terms of this new/old arrangement, the unregulated wealthy grab absolutely everything they can get their hands on, the middle class scrambles for whatever bare existence it can maintain, and the rest of America, the working class and the poor, fall deeper and deeper into third world-style poverty. Under the terms of this new system, the role of the government is no longer to provide for the welfare of the people, nor to ensure that there are limitations on what the plutocracy can liberate from them. Under the terms of this new arrangement, the function of the government is simply to serve as a tool, assisting that plutocracy in depriving America’s own people of everything that can be taken from them.

    That means that in the last thirty years we’ve entirely restructured the economy so that the super-wealthy have become obscenely-super-wealthy, and the middle class are lucky to have stood still, and haven’t really even managed that. If one examines the destination of the considerable GDP growth that America has sustained over the last three decades, it’s gone entirely to the richest of Americans. The middle class has actually lost ground. That’s an astonishing fact, but think about it: Despite robust economic growth, workers today actually make less than they did back in the 1970s.

    If the Russians had done it, we would be absolutely furious. But in fact, it was our own overclass that did it, and not only are we not furious at them, we don’t even notice the crime. Or, if we do notice, we’re furious at some ridiculously inappropriate target, like a ‘liberal’ president who isn’t even remotely liberal.

  • paul wenum

    Whatever,

  • Rob N. Hood

    Denying reality is a concern. Making up you’re own reality is not a healthy sign.

  • Paul Wenum

    My family lives by ,”If you work extremely hard at what you do you will make good money (all money is good), If you work a little you will make a little money. If you don’t work you make nothing.” Oh, I forgot. In today’s society you are entitled to a pay check. Forgot how times have changed.

  • Rob N. Hood

    Nobody ever said that, nor do I endorse that. Why do you insist on using stale old right-wing platitudes? Very silly indeed.

    How did one of our great political parties become so ruthless, so willing to embrace scorched-earth tactics even if so doing undermines the ability of any future administration to govern?

    The key point is that ever since the Reagan years, the Republican Party has been dominated by radicals — ideologues and/or apparatchiks who, at a fundamental level, do not accept anyone else’s right to govern.

    Anyone surprised by the venomous, over-the-top opposition to Mr. Obama must have forgotten the Clinton years. Remember when Rush Limbaugh suggested that Hillary Clinton was a party to murder? When Newt Gingrich shut down the federal government in an attempt to bully Bill Clinton into accepting those Medicare cuts? And let’s not even talk about the impeachment saga.

    The only difference now is that the G.O.P. is in a weaker position, having lost control not just of Congress but, to a large extent, of the terms of debate. The public no longer buys conservative ideology the way it used to; the old attacks on Big Government and paeans to the magic of the marketplace have lost their resonance. Yet conservatives retain their belief that they, and only they, should govern.

    The result has been a cynical, ends-justify-the-means approach. Hastening the day when the rightful governing party returns to power is all that matters, so the G.O.P. will seize any club at hand with which to beat the current administration.

    It’s an ugly picture. But it’s the truth. And it’s a truth anyone trying to find solutions to America’s real problems has to understand.

  • paul wenum

    You lied to me. you professed not to have read Alinsky. You are a schill just like I thought. FAR left liberals like you never have any thought processes you just simply attack. It will never change, will it, Mr. Al Gore/Soros Schill.

  • Rob N. Hood

    I didn’t lie. How would you know for sure anyway? That is an attack, so that makes you a hypocrite. And I’m sorry to tell you this but I am not that far left really, I am actually closer to the mainstream right now than you are. It is the right-wing dominted mdeia that makes you thik otherwise. It is people like you and the new conservative party that is extreme. Wake up and smell reality my impaired friend.

  • Rob N. Hood

    That’s an attack? Really? Well, excuse me, but you tend to do that much more than I do. But I will likely stop bothering you and ruining your specially ordered reality. You can go on your merry way without having to be so disturbed and attacked. It really is silly of me to try and converse with you people.

  • paul wenum

    You are an expert (untrained) in changing the subject on everything discussed. My father/grandfather always told me and I live by it, “point a finger at someone and remember there are four fingers pointing back at you.” Think about it “Robbie Boy” Enough said.

  • Rob N. Hood

    An “untrained expert”?! Thanks- I’ll take that as a big compliment! I generally respond directly, just as I am now. It is you who regularly uses hyperbole and insults and finger pointing. But that’s just my opinion on that. And I know this scares you but I’m not really that far left. The media has you snowed into thinking you are because they are so far to the right and have been for a long time now. It’s called “propaganda”. The right of the owners of said media to do whatever they want- and who are the owners? You, me, any other middle class schmucks? Nope. Rich white conservatives, that’s who. FACT.

  • Rob N. Hood

    I meant to say above that the media has you guys thinking you are mainstream. I left out the word mainstream. My bad.

  • paul wenum

    We are both untrained experts especially on climate change. You will continue to believe what you believe as well as I.

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