Top Meteorologist: Climate Change PROVED to be 'Nothing But a Lie'

John-ColemanJohn Coleman, who co-founded the Weather Channel, shocked academics by insisting the theory of man-made climate change was no longer scientifically credible.

Instead, what ‘little evidence’ there is for rising global temperatures points to a ‘natural phenomenon’ within a developing eco-system.

In an open letter attacking the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, he wrote: “The ocean is not rising significantly.

“The polar ice is increasing, not melting away. Polar Bears are increasing in number.

“Heat waves have actually diminished, not increased. There is not an uptick in the number or strength of storms (in fact storms are diminishing).

“I have studied this topic seriously for years. It has become a political and environment agenda item, but the science is not valid.”

Read more at Express

  • Fietser

    Why anyone would take this man serious is beyond me. He has a degree in . . . journalism! He was forced out of the Weather Channel after a year . . .

    • So taking the side of Landmark Communications are you? Coleman being forced out in a corporate power play is a reason to discount his opinion on global warming?

      You don’t have a degree in anything and we’re supposed to respect your opinion? Are you a heavy drug user?

      • Fietser

        So you believe journalists as a source for climate change. I’m not really surprised. You’d believe anyone that suites your agenda won’t you?

      • Stephen

        Okay. So that’s not cool. You don’t have to accuse them of doing drugs just because their opinion’s different.

        • Well, Feister says he lives in the Netherlands, so he’s Dutch, and there are a lot of drugs that are illegal here that are not illegal there. So I think it is a fair question. And yes, it was a question not an accusation.

    • Pepe

      Fietser: It is easy to spot left wing loons. Just a couple short paragraphs will do the trick. It is a hoax and you know it. Wise up! Are you on Al Gore’s payroll?

    • The planet is not getting warmer! I have studied it for years! I’m
      not a scientist but I did sleep in a holiday inn last night.

  • joeb

    I really can’t wait another twenty years – when there has still been no more warming – for how the AGW scam ‘believers’ (snigger) will explain it away.

    Will they be crying themselves to sleep at night, but still putting on a brave face in public?

    Can’t wait..

    • Fietser

      There’s massive amounts of heat found in the southern oceans. Plz keep up.

      • joeb

        Yeah – whatever. Keep believing your crazy, socialist control fantasies.

        • Fietser

          Whatever??? This is our planet we’re talking about!

          • joeb

            And it survived for billions of years doing the exact same things it’s doing now before we existed. And it will keep doing so after we don’t exist.

            We didn’t cause climate change, and you can’t stop it or change it. It’s a natural cycle. All you can do is get out of its way if its going to affect you.

            Now, lie down. The psychiatric nurse is coming around with your tablets…

  • Fietser

    What is pretty amazing here, is that the last 12 months we’re declared by NOAA as the hottest without actually having an El Nino!!!

    “The past 12 months—October 2013–September 2014—was the warmest 12-month period among all months since records began in 1880, at 0.69°C (1.24°F) above the 20th century average.”

    http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/global/2014/9

    • Sherri

      Fietser, don’t you love how they say things like “it is not our fault, this is the normal progression of climate it has warmed in the past”? Without any recognition of how that “normal” progression in the past was done much more slowly with all that CO2 sequestered in the earth that we have pulled out of the earth and let loose. They will be conveniently dead when the next generation berates them for their ignorance as they start to understand what the ostriches that came before them selfishly clung to in the name of their “rights” to trash the planet for future generation. The next generations will look back and say ” what the heck were they thinking and why did they not do anything when they could”?

      • Why are you addressing the troll? It is not our fault! There has been no warming for 18 years all the while, CO2 levels have risen to over 400 ppm. If CO2 does what you think it’s supposed to do, why isn’t the warming already boiling the oceans and cooking our flesh off? There are many theories to explain why there is a “pause”, but it is as yet unexplained. I think the reason for that is a simple one. CO2 absorbs 3 wavelengths of IR radiation. Those 3 wavelengths were absorbed completely 18 years ago. Adding more CO2 can’t absorb anymore heat. So there.
        CO2 is not doing what the models, that have frightened you so, said it would do! You should be happy! But no, you bitterly cling to an unproven theory that with the passage of every year becomes more and more irrelevant.
        Where is the evidence that CO2 is causing warming? You produce that, and then you can say what you’ve said. You have no foundation for your argument.

        • Fietser

          Neilio, you just confirmed that there was warming till 18 years ago (good for you).
          So two questions for you.

          – What caused the warming 18 years ago?
          – Why did it stop (according to you) 18 years ago?

          Can’t wait to hear you talk sciency.

          • joeb

            I’ll answer your questions:

            1) natural cycles
            2) natural cycles

            Not content with trying to control the actions of human beings, you socialist nutcases think you can control the climate as well.

            Why not try and slow the earth spinning around the sun as well? Give us an extra day. Surely that would be useful? Or maybe stop the tide going in out? You know you want to…

          • You tell me smart a#s. What caused the warming during the Roman warm period, and the Medieval warm period? Why did the warming stop then? You are so far in the tank for AGW it really makes you sound foolish.

          • You know there was warming and cooling, and warming and cooling, and warming and cooling, and warming and cooling, and warming and cooling, long before the modern era. It is cyclical. And that is not a guess, nor derived from a computer model.
            Let me ask you this, why, if we are warming the planet at a dangerous rate, was it warmer during the Roman, and Medieval warm periods? Even with all of this industrialization, and flooding the atmosphere with CO2? According to the theory of AGW we should be curled up on the ground gasping like dying fish by now. How do you still hang on to this completely disproved theory? Why do you? Let it go. It’s not happening, and nothing you say, or believe will make it happen. Embrace the truth, embrace reality. AGW is, and always has been a fantasy.

      • joeb

        Heh heh.

        It’s funny reading the desperate ramblings of socialists who think they can control the climate

        • Fietser

          What natural cycles? Specify!

        • Jack

          That’s why all these fascist have to cling to co2. It’s the only thing you can regulate to control people 100%. But to think the earth is so weak it can’t handle. A rise of just 100-200 PARTS PER MILLION?! laughable…

      • Jack

        The next generation will be saying the same thing about your beloved masters you call government when they’re put back in the cast system and can’t own anything.

  • Fietser

    Not answering these simple questions, demonstrates how Neilio cannot answer why globalwarming is a scam.

    – What caused the warming 18 years ago?
    – Why did it stop (according to you) 18 years ago?

    BUSTED!!!

    • joeb

      Dear oh dear. I genuinely feel sorry for you. It’s incredibly sad.

      What natural cycles?…er…you know, the ones that have been governing the climate for five billion years.

      THOSE natural cycles.

    • Busted? For what? Your questions are idiotic! I mean, listen to yourself. You’re admitting there has been no warming for 18 years! But, you see, according to AGW theory CO2 is supposed to warm the atmosphere. The more CO2, the more warming, right? It is hilarious to watch you warmists hang on to that, and the very fact that CO2 has not warmed the atmosphere is completely, actively ignored! And you call us deniers!! You are in the complete, utter denial crowd. And your questions, and assertion become more, and more ridiculous as time goes on.
      Denial: Psychology An unconscious defense mechanism characterized by refusal to acknowledge painful realities, thoughts, or feelings.

    • The question is not those you are asking me. I am not the one who needs to explain anything, or answer your questions. Actually it is your side that needs to explain things, and answer questions. Like, why has an increasing amount of CO2 in the atmosphere, over 400 ppm now, not caused any warming for 18 years? That is the question. I, we, don’t have to answer your questions because your side is the side that made the claims in the first place. The onus is upon you to explain why there has been no warming. There is no reason for us to answer anything because we said you were wrong, and so far reality is showing that you are wrong.

    • Tetonka

      He DID answer, you just won’t hear. Why do you wish to lose ALL your freedom? Socialist Moron!

      • Don’t worry about the fat laugher. That’s what feister means in German, a fat laugh or fat laugher. He’s a die hard believer in all of this nonsense, and I think, though I can’t know for sure, that he is a paid activist. It comes with the territory. If not him it would be someone else. Before him was Rob n’ Hood. After him someone else will take over.

  • Pete

    We are sitting on a massive ball of molten lava. Just look at the news in Hawaii.

    Can we believe that the air heats the molten lava beneath us?

    If one is going to use the “Ocean in a heat sink” argument for keeping the atmosphere’s temperature stable over the past n18 years then you must include all of the underwater volcanoes in that calculation also, one would think.

    For instance, the active volcanoes under the Arctic ocean that are supposed to be irrelevant to the ocean temperature, (and atmospheric temperature).

  • Tom Newsome

    Never argue with an idiot. They will bring you down to their level and beat you with experience. (George Carlin)
    All the carbon was sequestered millions of years ago. The planet was hotter then and did not support human life. We can put it back to that situation if you like by continuing to burn fossil fuels. I can’t believe I am bothering to write this.

    • So CO2 levels are over 400 ppm, why isn’t it warming us up like a hot plate now? according to the theory of AGW the global average temperature should be climbing with that much CO2, but it’s not. So where does that leave us? Where does that leave you, I should say, because the side I’m on has been correct.
      I know it’s not an easy thing to accept given the huge emotional investment that your side has put behind the theory, and it is human nature to resist admitting error. But you guys are going to have to face reality someday and it would be better for everyone if that day came sooner than later.

    • You sir are no scientist. How can you type such nonsense and hit submit? I actually think that you believie you have made a point in support of AGW, it is almost comical. If all the carbon was sequestered millions of years ago and it was hotter, what, pray tell, was the cause of all the heat? Your priest and ministers of the global warming faith have been quite adamant that there can be no other cause for the earth’s climate to warm, other than the CO2 being put into the atmosphere by we humans. Your point is our (non-believers in the AGW faith) point; the earth’s climate has been hotter and colder with no humans to blame. How is the current fluctuations in the climate somehow proof that it is being caused by man? You are quite welcome to join the non-believers in AGW since you are already starting to get the picture, even though the fog hasn’t completely cleared yet. You’re getting there, keep asking the questions and you too will see the scam that is AGW.

      • Fietser

        There’s simply no other scientific identifiable cause. But you’re free to name them!

        • Science is made up of scientists. Scientists are human beings, subject to human frailties, such as choosing self preservation over honest analysis. Keeping a job and maintaining a decent income by producing results that are satisfactory to one’s employer are powerful persuaders.

    • Fietser

      That’s why we call you denialists, you don’t argue, you avoid difficult questions.

      • Well, are they simple questions, or difficult questions? You seem to be a little confused on the difficulty level of your inane questions that you seem to be hung up on.

  • Fietser

    Neilio, 2 simple questions, and you can’t answer them. I wonder why.

    And what is it you don’t understand about “(according to you)”? I never said there was a pause. I’m debunking you, not my self.

    • Like I said, the onus is upon you to explain why the theory is wrong, why there has been no warming. We have been saying your side was wrong from the beginning, and we’ve been proven right about that. I am under no obligation to answer your questions, or to explain anything to you.

      • Neilio,

        Why bother with (K)iester? It’s like watching a politician caught in a lie; he will deny, deflect and distract until the end. It won’t matter if the earth’s average temperature falls for the next 10 years he will still be crying wolf and polar bears.

        • I get bored sometimes. I know it’s pointless but it beats preaching to the choir I guess.

          • Fietser

            Still haven’t answered my questions I see. How predictable. How can you live with those lies?

    • It’s not that I can’t answer them. It’s because I won’t! The thing that is important is the fact that the AGW theory has been completely wrong. There is nothing for me to explain. It is your side that needs to come up with an explanation for the failure of the theory. For decades my side has been beaten about the head and shoulders for not subscribing to the AGW theory. We’ve been told that we’re horrible people, that we don’t care about the erf, and we should be punished for saying heretical things about the beloved theory. And now you want us to explain why there has been no warming for 18 years? As though you have some kind of authority to demand answers? You are delusional.

      • Fietser

        Not willing to answer these simple questions makes your position rather weak. We have a simple answer why it is happening, greenhouse gasses. But it’s you that has nothing.

        • Anti-AGW-troll

          The answer to both your questions Fiester is PDO. Pacific Decadal Oscillation.

          If you track the progress of the Pacific Ocean temperatures associated with PDO over the last 100 or so years, you will find they match actual temperatures closer than ANY AGW prediction. And it has nothing to do with CO2.

          http://www.drroyspencer.com/global-warming-background-articles/the-pacific-decadal-oscillation/

          • Why are you answering the troll? He’s in no position to demand, or receive answers to his stupid questions! His side needs to answer for a few things before that happens like taking back everything bad ever said about skeptics, for starters.

        • Keyman

          “Fietser” and “Sherri” are Gore-bots and Gorbachev-bots: programmed by left-wing extremist politicians to re-introduce failed Marxist-Socialist dogma to the unwary masses. They have tons of “passion” but no absolutely no credible scientific or logical arguments, so they resort to countless logical fallacies which promote irrational emotion (“the polar bears are dying”) instead of factual data and historical documentation.

          As this article and so many other purely-scientific and scholarly articles have demonstrated, and as Gore-bots like “Fietser” and “Sherri” refuse to face and consider, the earth has actually cooled over the past decade, both the Arctic and the Antarctic have above-normal levels of ice, the polar bear population has increased exponentially (not decreased), last year was the coolest year (which is a developing trend now, year by year) and winter is already upon us on Halloween, this year.

          There is no hope of reasoning with Gore-bots and all other Neo-Progressive, Socialist activists and propagandists. They only care about control, manipulation, and the destruction of anything traditional, moral, and truly good. They only wish to continue to polarize society, with Saul Alinsky’s strategy of divide and conquer and the ends justify the means. Fortunately, truth remains truth, and all reasonable people will listen to truth.

          • Well said. Thanks for that.

          • Fietser

            Keyman, the last 12 months were the warmest declared by NOAA. You haven’t been paying attention have you? Too busy visiting political blogs while you could have been reading some real and proper science?

          • Keyman

            Thank you, Neilio, and thank you for standing for truth. It’s not always easy to allow liars to spread their lies, but I will heed the words of wisdom, regarding blog-sites: namely, “Do not feed the Trolls” (such as “Fietser”, “Sherri,” and other Neo-Progressive lunatics.). They lie, and arrogantly so, since, once again, all that matters to these Left-wing fanatics and Neo-Progressive hacks is power, control, manipulation, and perversion.

            I’ll only add these things: it is important always to question every single thing that a “Fietser” and all such Left-wing, Neo-Progressives say, and balance any “statistics” that they attempt to push on you (always without credible sources, citations) with a logical, well-reasoned, balanced, and honest examination of all, and I mean all, of the data/facts which are readily available, which contradict virtually everything they say.

            Just know that when a real discussion and a real, honest debate takes place, and when the actual facts/data come out, and when the truth finally shines through black smoke that they blow in every direction, they will slither away back into the dark whence they came, waiting for yet another opportunity to push their twisted, radical Left-wing agenda on other, unwary individuals. There is no reasoning with Left-wing fanatics. Caveat emptor!

  • Fietser

    Hilarious how John Coleman got ass kicked by his old Weather Channel!

    http://money.cnn.com/2014/11/02/media/weather-channel-global-warming-john-coleman/index.html

    • It’s funny how you think that’s what that is.

  • Miles

    A question for the global warming crowd:
    How is the average temperature calculated? Let’s say Ben Franklin in PA was the only guy recording temps. Then other New Englanders started recording temps. Today we’re averaging in hundreds of U.S. stations, now located in Cali, Arizona, and Texas. I can see how U.S. temps from all stations would average hotter than when the U.S. was centered in New England back in the 1700’s. How do we know the temps are really getting hotter, vs. the new locations for all our measuring devices are now located in hotter places?

    • Fietser

      If you’re interested you can look on the NOAA website, they can tell you exactly how it’s done. In fact their whole method is peer reviewed.

  • Virginia Friend

    Why the bantering back and forth?
    Do not look to NOAA or other government funded organizations for real science.
    NOAA, etc. follows the government agenda and there one can get into a guessing game of why they are manipulating data. Pretty dark stuff, here.
    Research independent scientific data on “natural” warming and cooling periods. The earth has always been warming and cooling. After you do some extensive research, you will no longer nedd to keep saying “why” this and “why” that. Don’t be so lazy – do the bloody research. It may surprise you and settle some questions.
    And p.s., this is certainly not a party politics issue, left or right. That is so far off the mark, it’s a diversion.
    This global warming movement has been a very powerful and insidious government hoax to further their own agenda (both parties) and it is here you may discover some dark truths as to “why” they perpetuated this particular hoax.

    • I agree with you mostly, but I don’t see any Democrats here in the US, (I’m presuming you are in the UK because you used the word “bloody”), come out against the AGW agenda. But there are plenty of people on the Right who do. It is a permanent fixture on the Left here.. What you are saying may be true in your country, but it most definitely is a Left/Right party politics thing here.

  • Fietser
  • D Harvey

    But 95% of scientists that make their money off AGW agree with the UN position on global warming oh sorry climate change , that is what is needed to make a scientific claim a fact 95% . Cap and trade wealth redistribution . AGW sounds like big biz to me . All that money and no corruption very hard to believe and Al Gore is just such a goof. Up here in Canada the lefties are dying to make it law . We teach it in schools as fact I have to show my kids there really is polar bears left and let them read about how at one time you could grow grapes in the U.K. or they would think I was full of crap . When they ask me why people want to believe it so bad I tell them follow the money climate change is the biggest money grab in history . My dad told me when I was a kid one day they will find a way to tax the air and they did and they made a bunch of idiots like it .

    • Fietser

      You’d rather trust scientists who it is their hobby???

  • Cro-magnon

    I didn’t do the research but I read an article about the natural causes for cyclical ice ages occurring approximately every 100,000 years.

    I read about insolation (the rate of delivery of direct solar radiation per unit of horizontal surface) and the effect of glaciation and non-glaciation on the surface of the earth.

    Then I read about the Milankovitch cycles which describe the fluctuation of the earths axis and orbit around the sun that occur approximately every 100,000, 42,000, and 22,000 years. There are also periodic variations in energy emissions of the sun, the single most powerful contributing factor to temperature on this planet.

    CO2 has been around a long time and has nothing to do with it. The CO2 levels are a naturally occurring participant in the ice age cycle.

    Also, please read the book ‘Red Hot Lies’ by Christopher Horner.

  • Cro-magnon

    Here is an article that talks about causes of ice ages, interglacial and glacial periods. It’s been going on for billions of years.

    http://geology.utah.gov/surveynotes/gladasked/gladice_ages.htm

    The article notes that an ice age takes a long time to occur and typically is much more rapid to retreat. In addition to fluctuations in the earths axis and orbit the article also introduces the movement of the continents which affect ocean and atmosphere circulation.

  • Cro-magnon

    Currently we are in an interglacial or warming (naturally warming) period. The last glaciation period peaked about 21,000 years ago and ended about 11,500 years ago (from the BBC website).

    The earth is experiencing a natural warming cycle and we are merely along for the ride. Leave it to our specie, here for a blink in time, to believe we are powerful enough to bring down this planet and in the process take advantage of it for personal gain.

  • I can’t figure out out if Fietser is a ton of simple— or a simpleton. Either way, l have sympathy for a guy who is so ideologically tethered to what will most assuredly end up being debunked as politically motivated pseudo-science.

  • Amber

    It is the height of human arrogance to suggest,as the Green Blob does,that humans (not sure which ones ) are going to control the earths temperature within a band of 2 degrees .

    The global warming fraud is over the top propaganda delivered to make a very small percent of the population very rich at the expense of others .

    If we run out of fossil fuel as was the prediction for the 1990’s then the Green Blob really has nothing to worry about do they ? Wouldn’t the world cool rather rapidly if their hypothesis is correct ?

    Maybe we could have a scary sequel ….Can we keep the earths temperature within 2 degrees ? A perfect hedge play ….the possibilities abound .

  • Cro-magnon

    Another thing I’d like to see the global climate alarmists and nature loving societies address is how lethal solar and wind energies are to wildlife, in particular to birds. In their blind stumbling lunge to save the planet from man’s carbon footprint they are going to potentially rob us of any number of bird and bat species. The annual numbers from 1, only 1 wind farm in CA is staggering. Check it out for yourself.

    http://www.bioone.org/doi/abs/10.2193/2007-032

    This is happening globally. Check out this letter sent to the US Fish and Wildlife Service.

    http://savetheeaglesinternational.org/submissions/submission-to-usfws-2014.html

    • Don’t get me wrong, you and I are on the same side here. But this issue is not really a good point to argue. It is a point, and in my opinion a valid point, but the fact is that a far greater number of birds die from other things like window strikes. The only thing to be argued about it is that these so called “environmentally friendly” alternative energy sources are not quite as environmentally friendly as sold. But that’s about it.

  • Cro-magnon

    Scotland, Norway, Spain, Canada, UK, South Africa, Germany, Japan… It is beyond belief… Read down the list for yourself,

    http://savetheeaglesinternational.org/

    And in the name of what?

  • Jonathan

    I would just like to state that venus has an atmosphere that is 96.5% carbon dioxide and a temperature of 872°F (far above “desirable.”) Fossil fuels have been proven to release carbon dioxide, so the obvious solution is to cut down on fossil fuels. Global warming exists, but it is not an “instant” problem. Scientists and “socialist loons” are merely trying to stop global warming from getting out of hand and becoming irreversible. Natural cycles do in fact cause certain temperature changes, but the changes have become larger, as have our global consumption rates of fossil fuels. It’s not as if you drive a car for a mile and oceans begin burning. It’s as if 5 billion people drive cars, fly planes, operate trains, power their homes, and do various other tasks requiring fossil fuel burning, and the temperatures increase causing ice caps to melt. Please try to look into some credible research by respected scientists, or at least consider the possibilty of yourself being incorrect.

    • Please stop using Venus as an example of runaway greenhouse warming. The high temps on that planet are due mainly to the much higher pressures exerted by the mass of the atmosphere. It has very little to do with it’s CO2 content, nor its closer proximity to the Sun. CO2 does not absorb solar radiation, it absorbs IR in the bands of 2.7, 4.3 and 15 micrometers only, and the atmosphere is so massive on Venus that very little radiation from the Sun reaches the surface to be absorbed by the surface to re-emit IR in those specific bands. So forget about Venus.
      Now, you assert that global warming exists but where is the evidence that the Earth has warmed in the last 18 years, even as CO2 levels have climbed? CO2 is above 400 ppm now. Why have the temperatures not risen to correspond to that rise in CO2? Are the icecaps melting? Right now the Arctic sea ice has been within 2 standard deviations of the 1981-2010 average for a couple of years bouncing back from the 2012 minimum. It does not appear to be melting at any rate remotely approaching alarming. Maybe you should stop trusting whatever anyone tells you, and do some of your own research.

  • Jonathan

    http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs_v3/
    http://m.earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Features/GlobalWarming/page3.php
    Please excuse the facts and actual sources. This is research conducted by nasa, aka the guys who literally stare at the sky taking measurements of it and launching stuff onto planets through it.

    • Do you know how to read a graph? The graph clearly shows that there has been no warming for about 18 years. Soooooo……
      And that other link is to a page that says that models, (A model by none other than Micheal Mann), predict that Earth will warm between 2 and 6 degrees Celsius in the next century. From 2008!
      I would excuse the facts and actual sources when you post some!!!

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