Skeptics say issue storm in a teacup
By Casey Curlin
In Washington, even a snowstorm is a political event. The record snowstorms that have blanketed the capital and shut down cities across the Mid-Atlantic have already sparked a new round of sparring between supporters and skeptics in the global-warming debate.
As city residents trudge through blizzards and shovel out stranded cars, climate-change skeptics have been tossing verbal snowballs at those arguing that the planet is heating up and that human activity is to blame.
Myron Ebell, director of energy and global warming policy at the Competitive Enterprise Institute (CEI) and a global warming skeptic, acknowledged that one weather event is not enough to prove or disprove the climate-change thesis, but noted that “global-warming alarmists” tend to take any severe-weather incident – heat waves, cold snaps, droughts and floods – as evidence supporting their position.
Mr. Ebell noted that the Washington area is enduring a colder winter than usual. The region typically gets a lot of precipitation this time of year, but it does not typically produce such heavy snowfall.
On the defensive, climate-change experts dismiss the idea that a temporary cold snap and a pair of freakish snowstorms undermine what they say are clear long-term trends. The severity of the recent weather, they say, in fact supports the global-warming argument.
Joseph Romm, senior fellow at the Center for American Progress and Jeff Masters, director of meteorology for the Weather Underground, a Web-based forecasting site, said in a teleconference for reporters Thursday that the recent weather patterns do not refute the global-warming thesis.
They are still defending this theory. But if you think about it, they are on the DEFENSIVE! They no longer enjoy a lofty, untouchable, the-science-is-settled-debate-is-over kind of perch. They are now down in the mud flailing away trading punches. This is where it should have been all the while.
Don’t get me wrong. I still think it is a complete pile of rubbish. I’m am really glad that they are no longer in a position to wag a finger at me and say I’m trying to destroy the planet. Because now they got a lot of ‘splainin to do.
Yep, you da man!
Ok……. What does that mean? Do you think I want to destroy the environment, Rob? Because I don’t. But the whole time jerks like the ones at East Anglia, and NASA’s GISS have been framing the argument in just that fashion. So don’t get all snooty because you have argued that as well.
Let’s see. If it is warm, its global warming. If it is cold, it is climate change. If it is an extreme weather event, it is climate variability. No matter what, man is guilty. No-one can refute a “theory” like that, because the “theory” has been set up to be non-falsifiable. Of course, then it is not science, and it explains nothing. But it sounds good and keeps the funding rolling in……
Neil, you warned me and you were right. Thanks!
Uh, can you refresh my memory. What did I warn you about?
Good point Neil, I will give a month salary for looking at their office their looooong faces
Niel? Your not trying to destroy the planet? Rob told me you were in charge of planet destruction! Man you can’t trust any of those liberals! I think I just heard another climate falsehood being perpetrated by the Obama administration! I must go and squash the lie….see you soon!
I’m doing my best. It’s just those rightious, clean green commies keep squashin me down man! I can’t get nothin done.
Always said the truth will prevail. Now let’s see if this administration with their Czar for global warming gets his way. If he does, here comes a push on cap n trade. Trust me, it is coming. They never give up even when facts prevail. I believe it’s called a “Big Ego.?” Bye the way, where is Al Gore? Must be trading carbon credits at a discount?
Yes they will try, but the longer they wait the harder it will be. I think it will not pass the House, or Senate. But I am an optimist.
I have PMA, (Positive mental attitude), however, never say never.
Neil, Cap N Trade is still on the table. That said, the dems are running as if the ship is sinking. Agree?
I don’t know. I think they are rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. They are proceeding as if the AGW theory was as sound as ever. They have their fingers in their ears going la la la la la la!
What? Climategate? Uh, uh, hmmm, this doesn’t undermine the theory that climate change is caused by man. No, not at all. You can’t make something out of what a few scientists were saying to each other, it’s all meaningless. Jail the hacker!!!!!!!
Paul, they have lost but they just won’t face it.
The Dems are weak and always have been (that is definitely after JFK was eliminated). This is a right-wing country. So if that is what you want, you have it. So why are you so worried all the time? I wouldn’t be if I were you. Your side gets it’s way 95 % of the time, or more. What do you want, a perfect 100%??
100%? I like that!
I am on board for 100%!
Gotcha. 100% is nazi-like fascism or totalitarianism. Fits you guys like a glove, it does.
By the way, they will be pushing the nuclear option on health care very shortly, now watch out for cap N trade. As stated, it is definitely coming. Make sure that when it comes you call your representative. Always thinks worst case scenario and work back.
Now the “nuclear option” is a bad thing…? A couple years ago it was a good thing, wasn’t it? Ahhh, the good (bad) ol’ days…
It has been predicted and it will come true. Unfortunately, we will all pay for this option that I sincerely believe will be taken. Heaven help my children in the years to come. As for you, Robbie Boy, you are what you are and will never change. Time will tell if you are the wonder that you think you are.
Paul, I don’t see Nuclear option as a bad one. It could be safe, clean and economic. There are oil pumps between Alaska and USA (crossing the entire Canada) that operates alone (automatically) and should be charged only every 10 years. That is an important source of energy.
Uhhh, I rest my case…
By “nuclear option,” they are discussing a political procedure in the Senate that prevents a filibuster. In this case, it’s a way to cheat the accepted process and would be a violation of Senate rules. Still, nuclear power is a good option.
For Cuba’s sake he lives in Europe. They don’t know what reconciliation (Nuclear option) is. By the way Obama’s 8 Billion for nuclear? Let it pass HIS EPA standards. Yeah right! His statement was nothing but “Showtime.”!
Really Paul, you know that, huh? Wow. “His” EPA standards are not much different from Bush’s. If Obama is as Liberal as you believe (falsely so) then why oh why would he continue to piss of his Liberal supporters like this for example, which is only one example among MANY. Makes absolutely no sense unless he means to support nuclear energy.
Oh that’s right, you just respond robotically. Where do you get YOUR talking points from?
President Bush was not a conservative like I am and was chastised for it by me as well as others. Spent our money/your money like it grew on trees. That said, President Obama has tripled/quadrupled the expense. As to nuclear power, he can say all he wants but let’s see if he has the cahunna’s to actually start to build nuclear power plants such as France etc. I sincerely doubt it. The powers of the environmentalists will prevail. They have since the 70’s. Research it!!!
Sorry for my stupidity concerning the Nuclear Option. I have no idea of the real meaning. Sorry!
You are exaggerating again Paul. Obama is doing what his financial advisors have told him to do, which is basically the continuation of what Bush started. Not to mention that it may indeed have saved us from a real Depression. Any republican president wouldn’t have done anything different. That said- I don’t agree with much of it either but to demonize one party and one man (or two- I know I can’t leave out the evil A.G.!) is ridiculous. And you need to wake up and realize that. Otherwise we will all continue to go down the toilet.
The “Toilet” you state is ready to be “flushed” by the left. Let’s hope that they cannot push the handle.