The uncompromising verdict of Dr Mörner is that all this talk about the sea rising is nothing but a colossal scare story, writes Christopher Booker.
If one thing more than any other is used to justify proposals that the world must spend tens of trillions of dollars on combating global warming, it is the belief that we face a disastrous rise in sea levels. The Antarctic and Greenland ice caps will melt, we are told, warming oceans will expand, and the result will be catastrophe.
Although the UN’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) only predicts a sea level rise of 59cm (17 inches) by 2100, Al Gore in his Oscar-winning film An Inconvenient Truth went much further, talking of 20 feet, and showing computer graphics of cities such as Shanghai and San Francisco half under water. We all know the graphic showing central London in similar plight. As for tiny island nations such as the Maldives and Tuvalu, as Prince Charles likes to tell us and the Archbishop of Canterbury was again parroting last week, they are due to vanish.
But if there is one scientist who knows more about sea levels than anyone else in the world it is the Swedish geologist and physicist Nils-Axel Mörner, formerly chairman of the INQUA International Commission on Sea Level Change. And the uncompromising verdict of Dr Mörner, who for 35 years has been using every known scientific method to study sea levels all over the globe, is that all this talk about the sea rising is nothing but a colossal scare story.
Despite fluctuations down as well as up, “the sea is not rising,” he says. “It hasn’t risen in 50 years.” If there is any rise this century it will “not be more than 10cm (four inches), with an uncertainty of plus or minus 10cm”. And quite apart from examining the hard evidence, he says, the elementary laws of physics (latent heat needed to melt ice) tell us that the apocalypse conjured up by
Al Gore and Co could not possibly come about.
The reason why Dr Mörner, formerly a Stockholm professor, is so certain that these claims about sea level rise are 100 per cent wrong is that they are all based on computer model predictions, whereas his findings are based on “going into the field to observe what is actually happening in the real world”.
Sea level rise is the second greatest lie! The Holocaust is the greatest LIE
Sorry hadn’t seen your comment when I made mine.
Good to see others awake to the truth though
Keep speaking out.
Not to jump on the Nazi train here because I have a bit more sense than that, but a large portion of the history that’s taught about the Holocaust is in fact not credible.
Oh I am sorry, didn’t mean be in the Jew hater room. Yeah if you dont’ agree!
Learn some history because the holocaust is real and we have proof. So you should apologize to all those families who lost their loved ones in the holocaust.
It’s you who needs to learn real history read Gerard Menuhin’s book “Tell The truth and shame the devil” and many others
I have a friend who’s grandpa died in the holocaust so you should just shut your fucking mouth
Bet you have a friend who has a friend who died at Sandy Hoax and 9/11, too, right?
A LOT of people died during WW2.
You mean the book that got banned from Amazon because it was too stupid for them to sell it
Perhaps you should offer an apology to the families of the 60 million gentiles who were killed fighting that war. Eh?
Something is going on. The Pacific islanders are not lying. What have they got to gain? So why IS the water level rising in the south pacific?
Pole shift – The moon will pull the higher tides further south
is the water rising…or is the land sinking?
lol……its actually true . Land can sink as well , depending on the substructure its laying on . But dont tell al gore and his devotees . They may learn something .
…you know…if you make a home on a sand dune…you should know one day it will wash away…and you know what…???…don’t hear anything from Hawaii, Guam, Samoa, Tahiti, Fiji, Marshall Islands and the like…you know they are Pacific Islanders as well…Aloha bra…
Did you say Hawaii? We hear nothing from Hawaii?
I guess you’re not listening:
There’s more, if you’re interested. Tons more. And it’s not just Hawaii.
This response is not meant for you — you’re beyond help. This is a public service announcement aimed at those unwitting souls from the real world who wandered in here by mistake, and are looking around at all the crazy inhabitants of this place.
To You I say: Get out while you can…. This is place is not healthy.”
…hey dumdum…Hawaii is built on volcanic mountains…not sand…and gee…the shoreline hasn’t change for the 15 years I have lived there…
i go to Hawaii every christmas and it has risen
…duhhhh….’I go there every Christmas’…and know better than one that actually lives there…what a farking IDIOT you are…!!!
Well it doesn’t seem like you live there if you can’t ducking notice the sea rising
…too bad you never paid attention in school…or did any research on the nature of the planet we call Earth…but being such an IDIOT and lazy…you let someone else do the thinking for you…
Are you talking about yourself?
if you are talking about Waikiki beach? The sand there is washing away not sea level rise. The sand is trucked in and dumped there and not a natural beach.
I fish in one area in the NE Pacific and water levels are exactly the same.
LIAR… For 35 years I’ve stayed at the same condo in Kihei on Maui. The first floor of the building is about five feet above sea level and forty yards from the beach. After 35 years it’s still five feet above sea level and forty yards from the beach.
I have property on the Gulf Coast, NOTHING has changed in forty years.
Been in Hawaii for almost 50 years…shoreline still pretty much where it’s always been. If you look at the island chain from the oldest to the newest you can see the normal erosion that takes place…making storm induced incursions onto the shore a normal process. This global warming, sea level baloney is just that…ways for researcher to get paid and politicians to get power. Auwe!
Stop with the common sense crap. We need hysteria!!
But everyone of thesearticles you pksted is just conjeture. Again, dramatic claims if future potentials with no current facts.
Allow me to turn on my spell check. Sor Bartleby, you shoukd read your articles posted. They are all conjectures with bold predictions and scary poctures, butno actual real current measurable change. Please post an article with current real lofe change that is somehownindicating your argument is correct.
I looked at all of your links. Read them again. All they talk about is predictions and projections as if they are real or have already happened. It’s all hogwash. Cut and past this in your browser and it will tell you everything you need to know. It is all about wealth redistribution and that is the bottom line:
What are they doing with the 10 billion start that they received? Why, asking for some more, to do what with? probably to fund foundations like the Clintons.
Fluctuations are key here but for a permanent rise is bogus. If you had read the article you wouldn’t have even asked the question.
I haven’t heard anyone outside of the scientific stool samples that say the sea level is rising.
I’m more leaning to trust someone out in the field actually doing the work than I am some lazy inventor who created a model to prove their theory of sea level rising. Which by the way a model came be faked.
Actual data and eyewitness proof can’t unless they just want to lie about it like those who create these models to support their claims.
You people are fools for buying into this global/warming/climate change BS.
You do realize that all this climate change/ shift is nothing but a ploy for idiots to make laws to take money from you unjustly right?
Then again maybe I give people like you too much credit and maybe you really do need someone to lead you around by the ring in your nose.
the sea levels are not rising. The islands are sinking into a subduction zone
You don’t expect an honest answer do you? It’s because they aren’t up to their ass in sea water, put them there, MAYBE they’ll come clean.
So THE man who is still at the top of his field just told you his 35 year study and you choose to believe places like Hawaii who, as soon as they mention “climate change” are eligible for millions and millions in free tax monies. Yeah, I mean who doesn’t trust a politician and grant scientists? Frigging people are so gullible and wish to be frightened about something.
Now come one, the holohoax is the greatest lie ever told and there are plenty of bigger lies than this one besides that.
I hate to break this to you all, since they’ve reduced this to a political party view – not one of reality – but I LIVE on the beach in La Jolla, CA, and was born here. I am also a surfer, and we have a surfspot that has a visible rock that helps me decide the tide-height, as to what spot might be best.
I see the ocean several times a day.
This rock USED to be covered ONLY by the very highest tides of the year. All other high tides left about 6-12″ of flat surface visible.
Virtually EVERY normal high tide completely covers this rock, and no, it’s not shrinking from the base. The water lever is rising.
Since I’m not stupid enough to be a ‘conservative’ nor a ‘liberal’, I simply use my brains, my eyes, and my life-long experience.
It IS rising.
Good on ya. Not much surf down here in NO, so I have to windsurf instead. I have a lot of contacts with marine outfits working in the SP. Direct observation is the only thing I trust, and the locals down there are screaming bloody murder, and rightly so.
Just because some slick operator is making money off the crisis doesn’t mean it’s not actually happening.
No one has to tell me about the dangers of high water, I lived through Katrina. I have photos (not to mention stories) that would make your hair turn gray overnight.
It IS what it IS. Lived on the coast all my life, and I KNOW San Diego is experiencing waaaay hotter weather and much more humidity than we’ve EVER seen.
It IS changing, but they reduced ‘global warming’ to a Democrat or Republican argument – AGAIN dividing the people (so ‘they’ get away with murder), NOT on reality, but by some stupid fucking crooked party ‘telling you’?
Walk outside. IT’S CHANGING. Many are seeing huge ‘colds’, while others are baking. I was in Europe, and everyone says “hottest ever” – and predicted HOTTER next year.
I find it hard to believe that 7+ billion people and 700 million cars “can’t have a thing to do with it”….
It’s REAL, and it’s HAPPENING. You and I do NOT need crooked politicians telling us ‘it is or ain’t.’
I work on a boat dock and have worked there for a long time, my father owns and built the dock roughly 50 years ago and I can say this, the dock has not deviated from its normal high at high tide nor at low tide since it was built. Wether climate change is real or not isn’t the cause of argument though the part I do not agree with is that it is caused by man and technology. Research the emissions from when mount saint hellens erupted and you’ll see that one eruption of a volcano counts for much much more carbon emissions than humanity has contributed to it. On another note, if it is man made I can say that it is not America that is the largest problem. You are a surfer so you know that whenever a storm pushes water to the coast from China, the water becomes murky and the air becomes dirtier. If man is the driving cause of environmental damage then I am inclined to believe it does us no good to complain to our government when China emits far more emissions than the USA.
The grate global warming, then climate change is one of the biggest hoaxes ever perpetrated….I live by the beach in North Carolina and it’s the same…those lies claimed the same thing after hurricane Katrina and none since…Al whore + Al sharpton, same old sh@t.
Interesting, I live in Malibu, on Malibu road right in front of flatrock since 1995. The water, every winter and every summer, is at the same height as it was the year before. I see the ocean every day because I have no choice, probably more than you, and I hate to call bullsheet because I dont have any reason not to believe you, but if this was in fact the case it would be happening everywhere and not just in La Jolla. I think you might be mistaken by what your witnessing. My guess is its a type of erosion.
Don’t know what to tell you. I have no agenda, since I’m not stupid enough to belong to either political party, so it’s just observation.
Were it sandstone, like the cliffs here, the ‘why’ would be obvious, but this is rock, which CAN erode, but not enough for us to see in our lifetime.
Cheers. Love your area. 3rd gen’ Californian.
It could easily be sinking beacause of the geology. It may have changed in a minute in one earthquake or or could be slower. So faulted and so much seismic movement there.
I can’t help noticing that your observations regarding the tide levels are being dismissed by some of the “inhabitants” of this place: “Maybe it’s erosion.” or “earthquake” or “there’s been no change” or “it’s not caused by Man.” “…it’s China, not the US…”
If you’re making observations that inform your judgement, then you are, indeed using your brain.
Since this place obviously few inhabitants with brains, you will feel very lonely here.
Believe me, it’s not you. It’s them.
WOW! who care what political party you belong to or claim NO ONE CARES!
A liar is a liar is a liar and my guess is you are a liar.
Yea. I won’t believe my own eyes, but I’ll trust politicians to tell me the truth.
Here’s a GREAT 2 minute vid on 9/11 you might get something out of.
But then again, probably not.
I’m betting you failed Critical Thinking 101. Dude, where’s your proof the rock’s substrate isn’t shifting by the tides.
That sounds like the guy who told me; “EVERYONE knows that Building 7 from the pressure waves created by Towers 1 & 2, moron!”
I sent that to A&E 9/11 Truth. They thought it was a joke.
I assured that, no, there really are Amerikans as stupid as…well…..you, Bob.
How do you know its not sinking? Did you take measurements every time you went there? Did you hire a survey crew to measure it? Without measurements you couldn’t confirm if the water was rising or land was sinking or washing out to sea.
There is a mountain just south of Mexicali that rose nearly a meter after an earthquake.
You cannot eliminate all other geological events in your area and draw a logical conclusion.
There are many reasons for the water level change in relation to the rock. Earthquakes, erosion, etc. Many others here have stated there has been zero observable rise in the level of the oceans where they live you have to realize that to believe your conclusion yours must be considered an isolated phenomenon which is highly unlikely.
The official government approved version of what happened on 9/11 is a pretty big lie also.
Your comment is totally irrelevant to the article you nincompoop.
I wasn’t trying to make a point relevant to the article. Nor am I required to make only points relative to the article. I was pointing out that there are bigger lies out there that are worth examining.
You make a statement with no evidence at all. Just conjecture and hyperbole just like the global warming alarmists do
Are you joking? The EVIDENCE available FAR outweighs that pathetic, preposterous lie called the Official Narrative, you moron.
ANYONE who still thinks 9/11 happened the way way lying politicians, lying alphabet agencies, and lying MSM told you would do well to be close to the next False Flag to help scrub the gene pool of such gullibility.
Ho Lee Crap.
But then everything is a conspiracy to you
Yea…Guess I’m kinda’ stupid that way, believing facts and evidence and Laws of Physics and eye-witness testimony…instead of ….politicians?
Not the sharpest tool in the shed, is ya’?
Read my linked article. It’s full of observational evidence going back well over a century.
Or continue to tow the line that Nobel Award winning world renowned climate scientists Al Gore……Oh wait
Referencing 9/11. And Boston. And Sandy Hoax….etc., as you seemed to be referencing Hugh Mayle’s comment re; 9/11.
Climate Change? I’m SIMPLY GOING BY PERSONAL OBSERVATION. I see what I see. I listen to no one. I have no skin in the game. My O/P was simply having watched 20+ years at my local beach, as a surfer, who is FAR more aware what water does to each wave than ‘someone who drives by’ or ‘look at the pretty ocean’.
Besides that, there’s some unbelievable weather shit working it’s way around the globe. I certainly don’t need to be ‘told’ it’s my imagination….or it’s NOT.
Sorry. Not a sheep.
I rely on empirical evidence collected from nearly every continent with coastlines on the ocean. Not by someone with a preconceived ideology who looks out their window and calls what he see’s as evidence. Coastlines always change with erosion. Doesn’t prove the oceans are rising. LOL
Nicely sidestepped my above comment.
HOWEVER, I RELY on my OWN eyes and observations, since I am ‘where it’s happening’, rather than ‘waiting to be told’ – like idiots who turn on MSM or listen to a lying politicians and think they’re being told the truth.
And with logic like that we can claim the sea levels are in a catastrophic decline because there is an island being formed where there was once water.
Also the earth must be flat and the sun moon and stars revolve around the earth. It’s how we perceive it, right?
However, again I rather use empirical data collected and analyzed from hundreds of gauges the line the perimeters of the oceans.
Perfect. Thanks for playing Paranoid Sheep with me, thus proving my point. Do you often bleat out loud, in public, for no apparent reason?
Only point proven here is how delusional you are
Hence, my number of followers and my up vote ratio.
Follow me; You just might learn something…. naaaaaw
“Vulgus vult decepi — the (common) people wish to be deceived.” — Phaedrus
Ever looked in the mirror and wondered if the fluoride thing just might be true?
Satan, the KKK, radical Islamic terrorists, even Hitler in today’s world have lots of followers too.
What does that prove?
Again I believe in empirical evidence collected over a long period of time over your extremely limited self conceived perception.
jburr: The Fluoride Kid
”It is, for our home planet, an extremely warm year.
Indeed, last week we learned from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration that the first eight months of 2015 were the hottest such stretch yet recorded for the globe’s surface land and oceans, based on temperature records going to 1880. It’s just the latest evidence that we are, indeed, on course for a record-breaking warm year in 2015.
Yet, if you look closely, there’s one part of the planet that is bucking the trend. In the North Atlantic Ocean south of Greenland and Iceland, the ocean surface has seen very cold temperatures for the past eight months. What’s up with that?
First of all, it’s no error. I checked with Deke Arndt, chief of the climate monitoring branch at NOAA’s National Centers for Environmental Information, who confirmed what the map above suggests — some parts of the North Atlantic Ocean saw record cold in the past eight months. As Arndt put it by email:
For the grid boxes in darkest blue, they had their coldest Jan-Aug on record, and in order for a grid box to be “eligible” for that map, it needs at least 80 years of Jan-Aug values on the record. Those grid boxes encompass the region from “20W to 40W and from 55N to 60N,” Arndt explained.
And there’s not much reason to doubt the measurements — the region is very well sampled. “It’s pretty densely populated by buoys, and at least parts of that region are really active shipping lanes, so there’s quite a lot of observations in the area,” Arndt said. “So I think it’s pretty robust analysis.”
The cold water melting off Greenland is cooling the area south of Greenland as it effects the ocean currents etc.
what are you going to do to pay for your sins against mother earth?
You can bet the military, NASA, NOAA, EPA, DOE, and all the other alphabet soup automatons have been given their marching orders. And of course those marching orders were carefully compartmentalized through the ranks, mindlessly following the usual “need to know” standard, which insures the truth remains hidden from view, accessible only to the very few. The reality is that policymaking of this magnitude is not made by governments, politicians or scientists – it is made in secret by shadow committees wielding colossal power, whose bases of operation might be located in the City of London, Tavistock, The Vatican, the Committee of 30, the think tanks and foundations that birthed the UN and the CFR, and last but not least Tel Aviv. If I missed any, please feel free to add to the list.
The Holocaust is a lie? “a large portion of the history…” is “not credible?
Oh boy, I’ve wandered into crazy town.
I’m going to go out on a limb: do any of you geniuses still think Obama is Kenyan? That the Moon landing faked? The Earth really flat? Bin Laden is Alive? Have Martians taken over the multinational corporations?
If so, Is there any amount of education that will cure what you’ve got?
So…….more contrived data . It just does’nt stop with the climatologist and their clique . Another contrivance shot down by a credible scientist instead of a non-credible “scientist/ scientists ” and the monies they extorted by using “bad science” . Time for “house burning” .
this is a lie. iv’e been out and studied the sea levels and it has risen. Also this guy is a geologist not a oceanologist, so he studies rocks not water. Also he just one scientist.
we all can be reassured that if we pay enough extra taxes this climate change thing can be solved….. just like acid rain…. just like ozone layer…. and the next crisis invented by scientists who need to get paid and shifty and gutless stupid politicians who buy junk science…. wonder what the next crisis will be? Maybe a global ice age? You cant change the weather people!!
I have to know because of the sheer numbers of stupid people that believe this CRAP!
Have you ever taken a 1/2 glass of water and marked it then fill it with ice and let it set for a day then come back in 24 hours to see where the water level is?
Why don’t you do it? See the results. Now lets assume that the ice on the caps were just formed from the water already in the oceans and not from winter storms.
Do you really think that the ocean would still rise even though the same water frozen or not has the same volume?
Do you even consider evaporation as the means to maintain water levels?
It may change states but the amount is the same. There are too many logical ways to look at this verses the lies of climate change.
The Oceans have ALWAYS varied! If nothing ever changed, the Earth would be DEAD!!!
Global warming? Yawn. Although I believe in AGW 100%, I don’t care. It’s a problem for the future and people are idiots. Good luck.
You do know Nils Morner is literally an idiot right? even INQUA has stepped away from him basically calling him a deluded quack
If you look at pictures of the Island of Tarawa in the South Pacific from WWII and now there is very little change. If the sea level has been rising like stated this island would be underwater. As a geologist the measurements don’t add up. There is something going on to where data is being manipulated to show results that are wanted. There is clearly no rise in sea level that can be measured accurately with the plus or minus 10cm uncertainty. Please stop looking at the phony data and do the math. Do your math not theirs.