By Joseph D’Aleo
In the LA Times, there was a story on Richard Muller’s invitation to DC to testify to congress about the Berkeley Project, which attempts to reconstruct global dataThe Berkeley Earth Surface Temperature study is led by physicist Richard Muller, a longtime critic of the scientific consensus on climate change, who plans to testify on the effort Thursday before the House Science Committee in the latest of several congressional inquiries on climate science since the GOP majority was seated. Temperature data from tens of thousands of weather stations across the globe, many of which have incomplete records, are “very contentious,” Muller said in an interview. “The skeptics are raising legitimate concerns.”
Muller and many of those who question the temperature data are drawn to the “urban heat island” phenomenon, maintaining that gauges may be registering latent heat from asphalt, concrete and other urban features. Over time, some weather stations that once recorded temperatures in rural areas have been surrounded by cities and suburbs. The Berkeley project is analyzing information from 39,000 stations -five times as many as the other groups, Muller said – and will address the fact that temperature data have been recorded at varying times of day.
The project also will put its calculations on the Internet in a “transparent” way, Muller said. Other scientists, he said, “put homogenized data online. They don’t put up the [software] tools that get you from the raw data to the homogenized data. How do they pick the [weather station] sites? That involves human judgment.”
The first spark of scepticism was ignited in me when Eyeore said “the debate is over, the science is settled, the world has a fever, and we are the cause.” It is obvious to me that my intuition was correct, ie the debate is not over, the science is far from settled, the worlds climate constantly changes, and we really have no idea if anthropogenic CO2 is doing anything at all!
Everything in this article are things that I have brought up from time to time. Urban heat island effect, weather station selection, and accuracy. Even the fact that the methods used by certain warmists have not been made available. I’m not tooting my own horn here because I have not come up with any of it on my own, of course. But this information has been out there ever since I started digging. I’m just glad to hear that there are people in congress now that will listen, and even have hearings on it. It is refreshing!
Refreshing it is. About time.
Isn’t “latent urban heat” heat still Heat, and isn’t it also anthropogenic? Yes, and yes.
“gauges may be registering latent heat from asphalt, concrete and other urban features.”
What he is referring to is heat that is absorbed by things that are prevalent in cities, i.e. concrete, and asphalt, that are heated by the Sun’s light. Then when the Sun is no longer shining on those objects, and structures they will re-radiate the heat that they have been storing, raising the ambient temperature of the air. The objects, and structures are manmade, but the heat itself is of a very natural source, and the effect is localized, hence the term “urban heat island effect”.
In essence, the manmade structures have an effect that is opposite to the albedo effect. The albedo effect reflects sunlight back into space, it is not absorbed and re- radiated, it is simply reflected. A city will absorb heat and store it until there is no longer a heating source, then the stored heat, what he refers to as “latent heat”, will radiate from those objects. An electrical analogy would be a capacitor.
So it is yes, and no. Yes, latent heat is still heat, but no, it is not anthropogenic, it is from the sun.
Heaven’s to Betsy! Neil had to correct me, once again, demonstrating his intolerance and his lack of logical reasoning. My statement was basically true, and Neil’s “correction” an unnecessary and anal frivolity. He never fails to fail.
The rich have been getting richer and the poor and middle have been getting poorer in the US recently. Here are seven examples that show how the US is going through Robin Hood in Reverse.
•Between 1948 and 1979, the richest 10 percent of families in the US claimed 33 percent of average income growth. Between 2000 and 2007, the richest 10 percent claimed a full 100 percent of average income growth in the US, according to the Economic Policy Institute.
•Business taxes were cut from 46 to 34 percent 25 years ago, according to Pro Publica. But today 115 of the big 500 companies listed on Standard and Poor’s Stock Index paid federal and other taxes of less than 20 percent over the last 5 years according to David Leonhardt of the New York Times.
•General Electric’s tax rate for last year was 7 percent according to Pro Publica.
•The top 5 percent US households claim 63 percent of the entire country’s wealth. The bottom 80 percent hold just 13% of the growth, according to the Economic Policy Institute.
•Last year, John Paulson, a hedge fund manager “earned” $4.9 billion, according to the New York Times. Ten years ago it took 25 such managers to collectively earn that much. Last year the top 25 hedge fund managers pocketed (a much better word) a total of $22 billion. It would take over 440,000 people each earning $50,000 a year to match that amount.
•A federal development program intended to help poor communities, the New Market Tax Credit, instead funnels up to ten billion taxpayer dollars to big corporations like JPMorgan Chase & Co, Goldman Sachs and Prudential to build luxury hotels, office buildings and a car museum. Bloomberg Markets Magazine pointed to the Blackstone Hotel in Chicago which was renovated for $116 million. Prudential got $15.6 million in tax credit from the US Treasury for helping fund the project because the hotel was in a census zone that included two colleges which housed a lot of lower income students.
•According to the Financial Times, there are now more people living in poverty in the US than at any time in the last 50 years. Foreclosure filings were nearly 4 million in 2010, up 23 percent since 2008 according to RealtyTrac.
You asked a question, I gave you an answer. If you don’t want the answer, why ask the question? It’s nice to see that I was right, you did come back. Couldn’t help yourself could you? What is this the third or fourth time you said you were never coming back?
Well I am now going to make a promise that I will not back out of. I promise that from now on I am going to ignore you, and V, and anyone else who I believe is only here to give us the ol’ JO…. JO. (Hint; the “O” stands for off.)
I don’t know what kind of a party you’re planning here but count me out, hint hint.
I actually answered my own question, Neil, if you care to examine my simple post further. Rhetorical I guess you’d call it. Plus I can’t help but do so to see was drivel you will come up with to disagree, despite logic and rationality.
And I never left. Been in the hospital due to a bad accident. So much for your usual/lame assumptions. One wonders how you all seem to never tire of your own egos and being wrong nine times out of ten.
And yes, V, we should leave them to their [edited]. That’s the way they like it.
Ole Rob has been let out again. Can we not get some decent judges to hold these guys. this one even talks to himself.
Well, you were incorrect in your answer to yourself.
Of course, according to you. U people are the most stubborn and opinionated folks this country produces. U all do NOT demostrate anything close to actual discourse and/or debate. Typical extremist Rightys.
That’s because your idea of discourse, and debate is everyone else shut up and agree with you! Why are you here?
He’s like “jason.” Provocateur pure and simple. Enough said.
Neil, et al. I’m not joining Robbie Boys party as well. Dribble is, dribble will be ad nausea.
Try “drivel”, or are you a basketball player???
I’d just like to stick to the issues that are addressed in the posted articles, and related material. Is that too much to ask?
Yes, gosh darnnit, we must play by Neil’s rules! I wonder if Neil was as tyrannical about his sandbox as a kid… probably.
Tyrannical? Really?….. Tyrant:
1. An absolute ruler who governs without restrictions.
2. A ruler who exercises power in a harsh, cruel manner.
3. An oppressive, harsh, arbitrary person.
“I’d just like to stick to the issues that are addressed in the posted articles, and related material. Is that too much to ask?” Oh, yeah, that’s just cruel and unusual!!!!! Darn me to Heck!!!!!
I want to talk about other irrelevant issues as well, ones tied only indirectly. Everything we knows falls under 1 universe, things that are at first glance unrelated become apparently related in the bigger picture. Everything relates so can we just talk about everything? Is that too much to ask?
Heys ifs yous cans links its, posts its!!!!
He who knows knows
…and anally confined, and usually just plain wrong. Except that the definition above does indeed describe Neil pretty darn well.
Rob, what is your problem? This is not my blog. I don’t have anything to do with who can comment here, or any control over what is said. I have only expressed my opinion that I would like to stick to the issues that are relevent to the posted articles. So that eliminates definitions 1, and 2. So that leaves definition #3, An oppressive, harsh, arbitrary person. Really?
Ok, give me an example of where I have oppressive, harsh, or arbitrary. I bet you can’t. But I bet I can find examples of your oppressive, harsh, and arbitrary posts. I said it to V, and I’ll say it to you: I think you should probably not throw peices of concreted earthy or mineral matter, if you live in a house constructed of a hard brittle transparent or translucent noncrystalline solid, consisting of metal silicates or similar compounds.
And I cannot comment on your special and sacred opinions Neil? Sheesh. Get out of the kitchen is too hot, girly boy.
http://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2011/04/09/no-need-to-tell-the-truth-when-you-aresaving-the-world/
“This story is being spread around the Internet:
Can the cherry blossom tell us anything about climate change?
Yes, says Dr. Yasuyuki Aono of the Osaka Prefecture University. Since the mid-1990s, Aono and his colleague Yukio Omoto have been unearthing records of cherry blossom festivals in the former capital of Kyoto and nearby towns going back to the 9th century. Using the dates of the festival given in the records, and an equation that calculated the temperature in March of a given year based on when the cherry blossoms flowered, Aono was able to estimate March temperatures in the Kyoto area for the past 1200 years, a full thousand years farther back than most temperature data is available for.
Here is the abstract of Aono’s most recent paper, which says the exact opposite.
We investigated documents and diaries from the ninth to the fourteenth centuries to supplement the phenological data series of the flowering of Japanese cherry (Prunus jamasakura) in Kyoto, Japan, to improve and fill gaps in temperature estimates based on previously reported phenological data. We then reconstructed a nearly continuous series of March mean temperatures based on 224 years of cherry flowering data, including 51 years of previously unused data, to clarify springtime climate changes. We also attempted to estimate cherry full-flowering dates from phenological records of other deciduous species, adding further data for 6 years in the tenth and eleventh centuries by using the flowering phenology of Japanese wisteria (Wisteria floribunda). The reconstructed tenth century March mean temperatures were around 7°C, indicating warmer conditions than at present. Temperatures then fell until the 1180s, recovered gradually until the 1310s, and then declined again in the mid-fourteenth century.”
Sorry, I thought this copied when I copied and pasted it, but I missed it somehow. This should go right before “Here is the abstract of Aono’s most recent paper, which says the exact opposite.”
“The findings would not please climate change deniers: Aono found that recent flowering days are earlier than any in the past 1200 years.”
My bad!
You are human. No problem.
“Houston, we have a problem.”
Sorry for the duplication, computer kicked me out. Is that a sign for the Robbie’s on steroids to rant and blather about things in the past?
Here is some bad news for “greens”.
http://www.globalwarming.org/2011/04/12/does-marijuana-cause-global-warming/
“Indoor marijuana cultivation consumes enough electricity to power 2 million average-sized U.S. homes, which corresponds to about 1 percent of national power consumption, according to a study by a staff scientist at the Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory.
Researcher Evan Mills’ study notes that cannabis production has largely shifted indoors, especially in California, where medical marijuana growers use high-intensity lights usually reserved for operating rooms that are 500 times more powerful that a standard reading lamp.
The resulting price tag is about $5 billion in annual electricity costs, said Mills, who conducted and published the research independently from the Berkeley lab. The resulting contribution to greenhouse gas emissions equals about 3 million cars on the road, he said.
Narrowing the implications even further reveals some staggering numbers. Mills said a single marijuana cigarette represents 2 pounds of CO2 emissions, an amount equal to running a 100-watt light bulb for 17 hours.”
I just laughed my a** off when I read this. Still chuckleing now.
That is to funny.
What is really interesting is that this is where all there ideas of envriomental coservation ect…. comes from …… SMOKING THE WEED!!! how totally funny.
Which is exactly why I thought it was relevent.
It’s true! Way back when I considered myself a Liberal, and believed global warming, and the rest of it, I was, you guessed it, a pot smoker. It wasn’t until after I quit that I started thinking clearly, and slowly but surely became a Conservative. How much would you bet that our derailing duo, Rob, and V, are at least casual users of pot?
Way back when I considered myself a conservative, and didn’t believe in global warming, I was, you guessed it not a pot smoker, it wasn’t until after I started that I started thinking clearly, and became a liberal. How much do you want to bet Rob N Hood that our railing duo Neil and Jerk (lol!) more than casually smoke pot still?
Oh, and I became a liberal because I realized that socialism brings in more money into the market. Conservetards don’t realize that an education (which is something that we tax for) allows us to take our thoughts and make something real from it. Where is a wallstreet economy derived out of? Real world products. Capitalism is unsustainable unless everyone grows. The more money people have the more products they buy. Make more products make more money. Greed eats you up from the inside. Literally. Is it hard to see the interconnection of education health safety and production?
Nahh I’m not gonna be around forever what do I care about that garbage for, who cares what happens to everybody else, I’ll just play it safe and take care of number one. He he. Hyuk. rebuttal? Neil and Jerk?
Pot makes you stupid, and paranoid. You should really quit.
V You may have stopped smoking weed but that is only because you can not remember where you left it. As for me I only been high one time in my life. I did not like it because I felt so sick. I stopped getting drunk when my Best friend was killed by a Drunk Driver. I stopped drinking when I realized that my kids watch everything I do and say and mimic it. I do not condemn those that do partake but I do reserve the right to speak freely that I think that it is an unwise choice to do so.
Now for the rest of the story. The absolute garbage you spit out is crazy. Look at the last 4000 years of history and you will not be able to find a single example of a form of social government that worked as well as the capital system we have here. I will highlight Russia as an example. They have vast resources and can not build of them because of the social system thy live in.
Civilization was stagnate until the capital systems were able to break away from the “royal” feudal systems in place. Of course you still live in the “haze” and can not see the trees because of the smoke.
“Of course you still live in the “haze†and can not see the trees because of the smoke.” lol, that’s funny. Obviously you missed the fact that I was mocking Neil with my post. I have nothing against you or your viewpoints, you’re an individual and as such you are entitled to believe what you like. You’re respectful with your approach and although our viewpoints differ you don’t attempt to press your beliefs onto others. Unfortunately Neil is unlike you, he’s disrespectful and ignorant. I’m sorry I pulled you into the ridicule but your user name was too perfect for the situation.
Now a question: are we more technologically advanced today as a civilization (with social programs in place) or were we more technologically advanced in the past (like when our education was elementary and our lifespans were half that of today due to lack of healthcare)? That’s it, simple question, were we more technologically advanced in the past or are we more technologically advanced today?
Ps. I think altering of mentality is a negative act. Marijuana, alcohol, and so on, are coping tools for an unsatisfactory life. I shouldn’t be writing satiric comments that might convolude impressionable minds. Drugs are bad not only physically but with time they will hurt your social relations. You can be stupid if you choose to be, I’m not going to hold people back from living their lives the way they choose to unless their actions are causing harm to others. You want to be stupid go right ahead. What I can’t stand though is disrespect, you don’t have to like someone or agree with them to be respectful, you just have to acknowledge their right to be an individual.
And Neil, you didn’t stick to your word, like you’ve chastised Rob for. Now what? I actually enjoy reading your comments and posts (as I’ve told you before), I believe you to be intelligent (as I’ve told you before), why do you have to be so ignorant? Stop being so derogatory towards others, treat others how you want to be treated. Even a 3 year old can tell you that. Show some respect towards others. Nobody’s perfect, at least acknowledge the fact that you don’t have all the answers, stop being a pompous a**.
And what is technology?
I said I was going to ignore you, and Rob. I did not say that I would not defend myself when attacked. And I have been ignoring you for the most part. In fact there is a lot I’m holding back because I don’t want to get drawn in to your intentionally silly arguments. And now you’ve said some things directly to me that have made me scratch my head wondering what you are talking about.
“I actually enjoy reading your comments and posts, I believe you to be intelligent, why do you have to be so ignorant? Stop being so derogatory towards others, treat others how you want to be treated.”
I mean…. What? Just whom am I being derogatory towards? I said I’d like to stick to the issues that are in the articles posted here, and Rob calls me tyrannical! And then you write a post that openly, and by your own admission, mocks and ridcules me!! Then you tell JA Knott that you have nothing against his viewpoints, but I’m disrespectful, and ignorant!
I mean…. Really? I think you should prbably not throw peices of concreted earthy or mineral matter, if you live in a house constructed of a hard brittle transparent or translucent noncrystalline solid, consisting of metal silicates or similar compounds.
Ok, doctor. On another topic, has anyone ever ridden a bull?
simple market demands and the entrepreneurial spirit of people…. hey ain’t that capaitalistic?? (yes) Oooh, wait… it is an illegal evil weed, right Neil?! Legalize it and we’d all save MUCH MUCH tax money, wasted.
To Neil above: that is NOT my comment to you or anyone here- don’t know why you beleive that. Truth is I don’t recall ever enjoying your comments. Just sayin’. Also- I made no such comment to “JA”.
I was talking to V. I said: “I said I was going to ignore you(, comma) and Rob(. period) I did not say that I would not defend myself when attacked.”
I was not addressing you, or directing that comment towards you. I directed the entire comment towards V.
but… you included me in it. Why is logic and reason lost on you??
Obviously, you don’t understand punctuation. If I were addressing you it would have been this: “I said I was going to ignore you(. period) And Rob(, comma) ………”
It’s no wonder that you have a fundamental misunderstanding of just about everything when you don’t even understand the basic principles of common punctuation!
Gosh Neil, thank you so much for the lesson in grammer, (comma) below (period). Your expertise is endless, and meaningless too.
I saw the post as well and as both of you, laughed my arse off! California’s electric bills must be higher than a kite! Must be the exhale that causes Global warming? Bet they received a government grant from Hanson/Obama for their asinine “study.” Ole Al Gore would be proud. Can visualize him and Clinton actually inhaling!
har har har…. so insightful and helpful…. to nothing and no one, as usual
http://asiancorrespondent.com/52189/what-happened-to-the-climate-refugees/
“In 2005, the United Nations Environment Programme predicted that climate change would create 50 million climate refugees by 2010. These people, it was said, would flee a range of disasters including sea level rise, increases in the numbers and severity of hurricanes, and disruption to food production.”
“However, a very cursory look at the first available evidence seems to show that the places identified by the UNEP as most at risk of having climate refugees are not only not losing people, they are actually among the fastest growing regions in the world.”
http://opinion.financialpost.com/2011/04/07/climate-models-go-cold/
“The whole idea that carbon dioxide is the main cause of the recent global warming is based on a guess that was proved false by empirical evidence during the 1990s. But the gravy train was too big, with too many jobs, industries, trading profits, political careers, and the possibility of world government and total control riding on the outcome. So rather than admit they were wrong, the governments, and their tame climate scientists, now outrageously maintain the fiction that carbon dioxide is a dangerous pollutant.”
“We are now at an extraordinary juncture. Official climate science, which is funded and directed entirely by government, promotes a theory that is based on a guess about moist air that is now a known falsehood. Governments gleefully accept their advice, because the only ways to curb emissions are to impose taxes and extend government control over all energy use. And to curb emissions on a world scale might even lead to world government — how exciting for the political class!”
V, get back to the fact that climate change is natural. What you did in the past as well as others doesn’t matter. Get back on point.
An environmental conundrum!!!
http://theresilientearth.com/?q=content/bye-bye-bats
“When night falls, many insects come out to feed, often on human food crops. Helping to turn back the pillaging insect hoards is an aerial armada of unsung and unloved heroes—bats. Bats are voracious predators of nocturnal insects, helping to control the populations of many crop and forest pests. Tragically, several migratory tree-dwelling species are being killed in unprecedented numbers by wind turbines across North America. Recent analysis presented in the journal Science suggests that reduced bat populations cause agricultural losses estimated at more than $3.7 billion/year and could rise as high as $53 billion/year if bats are driven to extinction. Oblivious to the carnage being caused by wind turbines, climate change alarmists and green political dupes have continued to push for rapid expansion of wind power. It is time to call a moratorium on wind park construction until a more realistic and less damaging policy can be formulated.”
“The rapid expansion of wind power is becoming a world wide problem for both birds and bats (see http://theresilientearth.com/?q=content/wind-power-green-and-deadly).For the first time, more than half of all new wind power was added outside of the traditional markets in Europe and North America in 2010. This was mainly due to the continuing boom in China, which accounted for nearly half the new wind installations, a total of 16.5 gigawatts (GW). According to the Global Wind Energy Council (GWEC) other developing countries also expanded their wind capacity, including India, which added 2.1 GW in 2010, Brazil (326 MW), Mexico (316 MW), and 213 MW were installed in Egypt, Morocco and Tunisia.”
“What’s bad for wind power may well be good for the America’s threatened bat populations. “Bats are among the most overlooked, yet economically important, nondomesticated animals in North America, and their conservation is important for the integrity of ecosystems and in the best interest of both national and international economies,â€conclude Boyles et al., warning that “Although adverse impacts of WNS on bat populations have occurred relatively rapidly, impacts of wind energy development appear to pose a more chronic, long-term concern.†Once again, the rush to supposed “green†energy has resulted in unintended side effects—bad for agriculture and deadly for the bats.”
Winds tend to die at nite, when bats fly around. Good ol’ right wing Neill concerned about innocent wild-life… It’s truly heart-warming.
I’ve said it before and will say again just like you posted Neil, wind power kills more birds, bats et al than is told by the MSM! Will never change in my lifetime. I must be negative? No, I’m a realist! Hopefully my children will attempt to change the world. Read today, Fat Albert Gore is telling college kids what to say and that they are the future giving them false information going forward. Knowing college kids, I see why he hit the market. Young, easily influenced without research. Been there in the 60’s. You probably never heard of Bertrand Russell?
Check the 60’s. What an idiot I was at 18. After growing up I finally woke up. Never changes does it.
Geez paul, who wasn’t an idiot at 18? Heck, I was an idiot until I was about 28!!
Another aviary expert and wildlife lover… you guys are practally PETA and Greenpeace rolled into one!
This is interesting. The NSIDC says: “Arctic sea ice extent for the month of March 2011 was the second lowest in the satellite record. Sea ice reached its maximum extent on March 7; extent on this date tied for the lowest winter maximum extent in the satellite record. Air temperatures over most of the Arctic Ocean were above normal.”
http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/
“Arctic sea ice extent for the month of March 2011 was the second lowest in the satellite record. Sea ice reached its maximum extent on March 7; extent on this date tied for the lowest winter maximum extent in the satellite record. Air temperatures over most of the Arctic Ocean were above normal. New data on ice age shows that the amount of older, thicker ice has increased slightly over last year.”
But then, in the same paragraph it says: “New data on ice age shows that the amount of older, thicker ice has increased slightly over last year.” And if you look at the graph in the link above, you will see that Arctic sea ice extent has once again ventured into the territory of two standard deviations of the 1979-2000 average. This is important because within the last two years they have said that the ice was younger, and thinner, and that it would rapidly melt. And that we were on track to have an ice free summer by 2015. (I don’t remember but I could be wrong about what year they said. What is important is that they said we were on track for an ice free summer, and that is obviously not the case).
I am also wondering why they are matching todays data with a two year average, compared to the twenty year average of 1979-2000. Why don’t they have a graph with a running average of 1979- present? Hmmmm.
This is wonderful!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5N1Im1xbjWQ&feature=player_embedded#at=126
Thank you.
circle jerks
Looked up what you stated. You must have full knowledge? Typical for you and you never change, nor will you. [comment edited]
I now know why we always have a disagreement based upon your childish comment. Now know why people on this site have no respect for what you post. Go back to your sandbox “little boy,” and I mean that sincerely.
ha ha- you were edited and I was not. Burn. And ouch “old mam” your insults are anything but childish (sarcasm…).
sincerely…
Oh, and thanks for the out-pouring of concern and well wishes for my medical status. U right-wingers are always so caring and concerned for your fellow man, even those with whom you have differnces with or don’t relate to very much. Oh wait, I’m thinking of the average Liberal…. never mind.
I thought computer generated liberal responses only got viruses that temporarily take them down.. Assume that you don’t exist absent auto response from Move on. Maybe I’m wrong?
Poor Paul- talk about auto-responses… (hint- I have visited Move On perhaps once in my life and that was years ago.) Your need to inaccurately pidgeon hole those different from you is a typical right-wing response.
try harder… much
Don’t have try harder your posts prove my point.
by the way, your previous posts again confirm what I have said. Suggest that you look in a mirror if they are not already broken?
Of course Paul! Do you ever change your mind or re-evaluate anything you’ve posted or believed? Not according to your posts here, thats for sure. Once you’ve made up your mind it’s solid gold. You love it and yourself; you think you are some kind of genius who cannot make mistakes. You’ve never, that I can recall anyway, posted anthing close to being humble or uncertain. Certainty, about everything, is a right-wing trait. Unfortunately it is a serious personality flaw and the reason humans continue to make the same terrible mistakes over and over again. Thanks for playing- good luck on your next life-time. Perhaps you can be a bit more human and a bit more intelligent. You call me a boy (49 year old boy btw) yet you are the one that needs to grow up. In my humble opinion of course.
Suggest that the “little boy” have a time out and sit in the corner. By the way, my life is fine. Climate changes daily and I love it!
At least you don’t patronize …. that’s such a Righty trait (sarcasm alert). Attack and demoralize your enemy, or attempt to, nonstop. Never give in, or an inch. Kick ’em while their down… Never admit defeat, or any weakness, or any mistake… ignore facts/reality and go with your gut… blah blah blah…. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
Despite Paul’s smug satisfaction with himself and his life, the main reason that the whole mess will be ultimately curbed is a simple one: Infinite growth, whether economic growth or population growth, cannot continue indefinitely. As the economist Kenneth Ewart Boulding reputedly said, “Anyone who believes exponential growth can go on forever in a finite world is either a madman or an economist.”
Accordingly, one can envision that a crash is coming — one far worse than the current recession. In large measure, it’s because environmental tipping points are on the way and, for those people in the worst locations for the collapse — the desperation, conflicts and chaos will likely be horrific in scale and ferocity.
Or everything is great, there are limitless supplies of oil and other natural resources we curremtly depend on everyday, and no one anywhere needs to change their behavior or lifestyle. Yeah, that sounds good, doesn’t it? Now you can snuggle in your warm beds and sleep without a conscience bothering you… as usual.
I have, over the last 60+ years learned from my mistakes which are many. Learned long time ago if you have never failed, you will never succeed in life. Have stumbled, fallen, been without any money, almost destitute but never looked for a hand out, I simply dealt with it. Didn’t eat very good by the way. Was taught as a child that a person must have to get back up, dust themselves off and simply never let diversity prevail, simply take diversity head-on. Don’t see much of that any longer. Most people today seem to think they are entitled to a job, income, health care, car, TV, et al. Life doesn’t work that way. Life is choices, period. If anyone disagrees, I have a problem.
That last sentence is a flaw for many people. You certainly hide your humanity well despite your stated challenges. And instead of becoming compassionate it hardened you to become an inflexible and opinionated person. I wish less people developed that way. The world would be better off.
Robbie Boy, You sleep on a mattress for three years simply paying your bills with no furniture, no shades on your windows, cheez whiz and a loaf of bread a week for 19 cents and one suit and see what reality is first hand. I had no TV, furniture, etc. nor internet where I could complain about my “Problems in my sorry life.!” Recently had a street person ask me for a cigarette claiming he had no money. Damn, he had a cell phone in his hand! Entitlement society. Nothing changes and my generation is ready to boil.
Good for you not falling for that sneaky homeless A-hole! Loser. He probably has a better cell phone plan than we do (if it really was a functional phone and not one he just found in the garbage with no minute left on it). He was probably reporting to his Al Quieda friends in Afghanistan… You should have stomped on his lazy head.
I give to homeless shelters, do you? Just don’t like people that game the system not earning their way. If the person in question spent as much time as I see him daily looking for work he probably would not be allegedly “homeless” which I doubt he is.
And all the losers in the homeless shelter are innocent from gaming the system?! Poor naive tree-hugging, birkenstock-wearing, latte-drinking. dread-locked Paul.
Cut trees for fuel, don’t wear high socks, a kilt when in Scotland, hate anything but strong coffee I make and I don’t have dread locks whatever that is. You stalking me Boy? Not all losers are in homeless shelters. Some of my friends have been and have recovered but don’t talk about it. Have you every been to one? Strongly doubt it!!!! Talk is cheap, actions speak!! You have no idea for which you speak. Suggest that you experience being here instead of reading about it from your liberal library!! Nothing changes with a neophyte like you.
I obviously used the word “loser” as a device, to make a point. Tongue in cheek. Sorry, I keep forgetting you Rightys don’t get nuance…
BTW I’m a Social Worker and so I’m very familiar with shelters and those who need them. Most of them are NOT gaming the system, or any system. But some are. So what? Life ain’t perfect and neither are people.
You have nothing to teach me. Sorry. We Liberals are NOT your enemy. Your real enemies have brainwashed you into believing that so you won’t notice how much they are ripping you off and stealing your liberties. That is a FACT, and until you Rightys figure that out real America will continue to weaken and die.
“Liberal Library”… sorry I had to highlight that… unbelievable… Just another thing some on the Right don’t like (for very odd and wrong reasons) and so they support de-funding it. The Right is de-funding everything that made/makes America great. They are cutting their noses off to spite their faces, and in the process killing what was good about America. Thanks a lot you bozos. How about de-funding the War budget? Plenty of waste and evil there to get rid of, Nah, let’s go after those evil public schools and teachers. libraries, and health care. Yeah, that makes sense… then we’ll be great again!!!! Oh no, not that, you people like war. You may deny it (or not) but it’s true. WWJD? Hmmmm. Sorry, but He may have other ideas for you to ponder… or not.
You are “free” to make your opinions here known, uncensored. Lucky you do not live in Syria. We don’t know how nice we have it until we lose it, do we. Or should I say you? Think about it for once in your natural born “free” life. With my posts I would now be jailed because they can easily find me. We have an excellent life don’t we? I want to keep it that way!!!
We lost a lot of liberties under Bush. What about that? You don’t believe that, or were asleep the whole 8 years??? Maybe you were in Syria that whole time? Any “excuse” doesn’t matter because reality is reality. Yes, that pesky thing called reality… and fact. I don’t like that Obama hasn’t reversed the damage Bush caused freedom and liberty in this country. Maybe that is something we can agree upon…?? Any brave and honest takers? Any?
We got a dead Bin Laden thanks to Bush, Obama’s actions. Made my day as well as others. I assume this ticked you off. Probably, I hope not?
Of course W is the hero! And anything that went wrong was Clintion’s fault! And Obama can’t be expected to do anything good, right? At least you aren’t illogically biased… If you were, you’d just be another right-wing cliche.
My congrats go to President’s Clinton, Bush and Obama, period. Job well done. I especially thank the SEALS. Now that is sacrifice bar none. Any disagreement, you and I, my friend have a major problem. I may not agree with President Obama’s economic policies, but his staff did an excellent job and I’m proud as hell for their accomplishment! All my republican friends agree as well. Now the war continues doesn’t it.