Posted from The American Spectator
By Paul Chesser – A few weeks back (and in subsequent op-eds) I introduced the latest student indoctrination effort to fight global warming, via the Alliance for Climate Education, which seeks invitations from high schools to deliver assembly presentations during class time. The group, which has started out targeting six regions of the country (the San Francisco Bay area, Southern California, Houston, Chicago, New England, and Washington, D.C.), presents climate misinformation and lies (To students: â€œYouâ€™ve lived through the ten hottest years ever recorded in historyâ€) so as to recruit teens for the cause of further spreading alarmism.
Last week a report in the student newspaper for the private Loomis Chaffee School, near Hartford, Conn., illustrated that the presentations ACE educators deliver are heavily scripted. For confirmation, you might watch the groupâ€™s promotional video trailer, note the script highlights delivered by San Francisco rapper Ambessa Contave, and then catch the reported remarks from ACEâ€™s New England educator Rouwenna Lamm:
- â€œWe all need to lower our emissions and raise our voices.â€
- â€œIn 2009, weâ€™ve inherited a world thatâ€™s all about living large.â€
- â€œDid you know that the average American teenager uses 20 football fields just to live?â€
- â€œYou canâ€™t see that, but what it means is â€˜living largeâ€™ cranks up the worldâ€™s thermostat way too hot.â€
- â€œClimate change is real, it is dangerous and it was be stopped. You didnâ€™t start it, you donâ€™t want it, but you have to fix it.â€
- â€œDonâ€™t discount the power you have as individuals and collectively.â€
Most of the bulleted remarks copycat Contaveâ€™s recorded points. The outcome at Loomis? After giving classroom lectures on the science of climate change (certainly excluding the lack of upward change during the last decade), and at the end of Lammâ€™s evening presentation, many students immediately signed online ACEâ€™s â€œDeclaration of Independence from Fossil Fuels.â€
Next up: Grade school global warming warning songs to the tune of â€œWe Are the World.”
UPDATE 4:39 p.m.: Rouwenna also delivered at Lawrence Academy in Groton, Mass., with the following mathematical logic: “The answer is by having each of the 22 million students nationwide install three energy-efficient light bulbs. Sixty-six million light bulbs equals 500,000 carsâ€”it’s that kind of math that helps any audience see the light in a world otherwise discouraged by images of a crumbling Polar ice cap and of bears stranded on ice floes.â€
It starts with our children. I cannot wait for 2010! My vote as well as all of you should be voting all these idiots out of office. Let’s vote sane people in. Jim Jones ring a bell???
It’s all about selling wind tubines and making billions of dollars. These people are frauds and need to be exposed as such.
This is from my previous post about an earlier story about ACE. It is about the people that are the board of directors for ACE.
I found out that Jim Eisen sits on the wind tubine advisory subcommitee.
That is interesting. Iâ€™m not exactly sure how he is going to make money off of this, but I bet it will come from the other two guys on the board of directors:
Michael Haas, President of the Board
He owns a wind power company!!!! And:
He is a CFO of a company that makes wind turbine blades.
So what do you think their goals are?
I think part of it IS to make money…Duh! You lovers of profit should approve. So what if our enemies (mostly) who sell us oil lose a little bit of their billions, I won’t cry for them, but apparenlty you guys will. You guys really know how to cut your noses off to spite your faces.
Its not just about profit its about the extra taxes we will have to pay if they succeed with this agenda. And who will they give this tax money to. Duh the third world because we are not buying their oil. If they can make a profit and make less pollution I’m all for it, but the way they are going about it is to make false claims in order to further their agenda and then tax the rest of us so they can make a profit. Its all BS. Fight it and let them know that we know its BS. Al Gore is the biggest piece “S” of this BS they are spoon feeding us while our hands are tied behind our back. Vote for Change. Vote Independent and get rid of all of them. They say that tea parties are just Republicans. Not so, its more people that are Independents. If we unite than neither party (Dems or Repubs) stand a chance. We are about 60% of the vote, we could have a real change then.
Norway enjoys the world’s highest quality of life, while Niger suffers the lowest, a United Nations agency said today, as it released a ranking that highlights the wide disparities in well-being between rich and poor countries.
Canada was listed fourth.
The annual Human Development Index, unveiled in Bangkok by the UN Development Program, takes into account life expectancy, literacy, school enrolment and per capita gross domestic product in 182 countries.
Canadaâ€™s life expectancy was among the highest with a child at birth expecting to live up to 80 years.
Norway was followed by Australia and Iceland on the overall list, which drew on statistics dating from 2007, before Iceland was hit hard by the global economic crisis. Afghanistan and Sierra Leone rounded out the bottom of the ranking. The United States was in 13th place.
Must be the water, is sure can’t be that socialized medicine!
When Capitalists make money, they don’t hide their motives. They are in it for the money and they don’t care who knows that, and will admit it proudly.
My problem with ACE is that they are going into the schools and indoctrinating children under the pretense that they just want to save the planet. When their real intent is to create a market for their product. That is a distinction that you fail to see, or purposefully ignore, because I just don’t see how you don’t get that.
I have no problem with them making money, I just intensly dislike that they are disingenuous about their true intentions, using AGW (that is not happenning by the way) to scare children.
So, my nose is where it’s supposed to be.
You are the one who can’t see the forest through the trees because your stuck in a grove of liberal bullcrap trees.
Micheal Haas, chairman of the board of directors for ACE, has sold his wind energy co. to BP, and now works for BP.
That’s just business as usual Neil. An actually it isn’t really indoctrination due to the fact that a majority of scientists around the world agree on global warming as an issue. That makes it “science.” Now you can disagree with that and wtih them, but if we stop teaching “science” in school well, then we’ll have to call them Christian schools.
Thats BS Rob, the scientists that agree that Global Warming is an issue are in the pockets of the communistic liberals that are pushing this agenda. They are not allowing any of the other scientists to get the opposing message out. The libs control the media machine.
Do you get a daily press breifing from the IPCC? You keep going back to that “majority of scientists around the world” argument.
The truth is that a majority of the scientists and non-scientist participants of the IPCC agree on that. I don’t know why you keep holding them up as the final word on the subject. Because the IPCC, while having a number of scientists involved with preparing the assesment reports, is not a scientific body. It is a political body. And you should trust them with your future about as much as you would trust a puppy with a new pair of slippers.
There are many scientists around the world that disagree with the IPCC.
Heres a list of just a few here in the U.S.
And it is indoctrination, it is: To imbue with a partisan or ideological point of view. That is exactly what is going on.
Because it is not science. It is a scientific THEORY. One that is losing support day after day because more and more people who look at the data are realizing that the predicted warming is not happening.
In contrast, the formation of the Moon is a scientific theory. But it is an accepted theory. As in, you don’t have 31,000 scientists signing a petition that disagrees with that theory.
So, you are not going to win that argument, especially here. Where 99% of the people who read this think global warng is a scam, and that you are wrong.
Thank you Neil, as to Norway, my nephew lives in Oslo and he gets “free health care.” Sounds good, however their fixed tax is 36%, no deductions, is that FREE?? They are paying for it. DUH! Get on with the subject at hand. Profit is good. If Rob and his ilk hate it, let them go see Hugo Chavez. He will tell them what they want to hear and if not, Heaven be with them. Nice to see you active again!.
Exactly, there is no such thing as a free lunch. Beware of polititians bearing gifts!!!!
That still doesn’t prove that it is not a majority of scientists around the world who think something is happening and that human activity has at least something to do with it. The other bottom line is this: doing anything that lowers pollution levels and developing “greener” lifestyles cannot be a bad thing. It is also free-enterprise (i.e. for profit business) that is pushing this trend, NOT just left-wing propaganda. It is an actual and understandable (and correct, in my opinion) desire on the part of most humans to want to leave the planet in good shape for their children and grandchildren. You may call them idiots, I call them mature adults.
“Strive not to be a success, but rather to be of value.” Albert Einstein
You want to argue with one of the smartest humans who ever lived? Not only that, this quote sounds suspiciously similar other quotes attributed to a well-known Jewish carpenter.
I’ll say it again. AGW is not happening. The dire warnings from the IPCC, Al Gore, and James Hansen were false alarms. The planet is not warming.
What part of that do you not understand?
The state of climate science today is that we know very little more than we did a decade ago. It’s stage of development is an early stage.
The truth is that we can not predict what the climate will do next year, let alone a hundred years from now.
While it is a fact that the modern world we live in today depends upon fossil fuels, and that there is a lot of CO2 produced when it is burned. Now it sounds like a big number when someone says how many cubic tons are pumped into the atmosphere. But when you consider what the volume of the atmosphere of the Earth is, all of that CO2 is just a small fraction of the total volume.
And the carbon cycle is not fully understood either.
I am not a scientist but I pay attention to what is quantifiable fact, as compared to unquatifiable guess-work. The latter is what is known as junk science. AGW is junk science.
You ask any of those majority of scientists around the world to explain to you exactly how they know AGW is happening and how it will cause the Worlds temp to rise 0.6 degrees C. What they will say is that’s what the computer models are telling them. Computer models!!!!!!!!
Do you think computers are magical boxes that have the answer for everything? Not!
Computers are number crunchers!!!! That’s it, that’s all they do. And what numbers and equations are input into the computer? Why it is our understanding of how the climate system works. And what is the state of our understanding of the climate system? I’ll tell ya’. It’s slightly higher than zilch, zero, nada, null.
We really don’t know jack about it. But if it makes you feel better to rely on what some computers say, and then fall back on quotes from Einstein and Jesus to support it, go ahead. Oh, and never mind that the proposed solutions to this so called problem fit snugly with your political views, that just makes it all the more comfortable for you to buy into it. That’s just so convenient for you. Isn’t it?
Don’t forget that the BIGGEST producer of CO2 is the Oceans…….. Not Humans. Its a natural cycle.
Carbon Dioxide (CO2) is not pollution and Global Warming has nothing to do with pollution. The average person has been misled and is confused about what the current Global Warming debate is about, greenhouse gases. None of which has anything to do with air pollution. People are confusing Smog, Carbon Monoxide (CO) and the pollutants in car exhaust with the life supporting, essential trace gas in our atmosphere, Carbon Dioxide (CO2). Pollution is already regulated under the Clean Air Act and regulating Carbon Dioxide (CO2) will do absolutely nothing to make the air you breath “cleaner”. Regulating Carbon Dioxide (CO2) emissions through either ‘Carbon Taxes’ or ‘Cap and Trade’ policies will cause energy prices (electricity, gasoline, diesel fuel, propane, heating oil ect…) to skyrocket.
“Carbon dioxide is not a pollutant. It is a colorless, odorless trace gas that actually sustains life on this planet. Consider the simple dynamics of human energy acquisition, which occurs daily across the globe. We eat plants directly, or we consume animals that have fed upon plants, to obtain the energy we need. But where do plants get their energy? Plants produce their own energy during a process called photosynthesis, which uses sunlight to combine water and carbon dioxide into sugars for supporting overall growth and development. Hence, CO2 is the primary raw material that plants depend upon for their existence. Because plants reside beneath animals (including humans) on the food chain, their healthy existence ultimately determines our own. Carbon dioxide can hardly be labeled a pollutant, for it is the basic substrate that allows life to persist on Earth.” – Keith E. Idso, Ph.D. Botany
If global warming is happening, how then do you explain this?:
Why do we have more Arctic sea ice this year than there was in 2007?
And this ain’t no ordinary ice, this is young thin ice that was said to be suseptable to summer melting. So why didn’t it melt this summer? Hmm?
Because it wasn’t warm enough. NSIDC press release says:
“The cooler conditions, which resulted largely from cloudy skies during late summer, slowed ice loss compared to the past two years. In addition, atmospheric patterns in August and September helped to spread out the ice pack, keeping extent higher.”
Cloudy skies!?!?! Gee, I seem to recall a theory about cloud formation from cosmic rays due to a reduction in solar activity. Naw, that couldn’t be…. A majority of scientists around the world have said that can’t happen!!!!! The sun has no affect on AGW!
I also know a thing or two about thermal dynamics, being in the HVAC industry, and I know that when you spread something out thermal reactions are faster. For example take 10 ice cubes and put them in a clump on a hot sidewalk, then take ten more ice cubes and set them a few inches apart from each other on the same hot sidewalk. 5 miutes later you will still have ice left in the clump while the individual ice cubes ould have completely melted. It’s the same volume of ice but the reaction is faster because they are spread out.
The NSIDC dances around it but the fact is that it was cooler in the Arctic this year than 07′.
How does that fit into the AGW hypothesis? Answer: It don’t.
Neil, well said.
I really shouldn’t get myself worked up over this. But I do. I guess it’s just my nature to point out when facts do not equate a theory. In this case the warmists keep insisting that it’s getting warmer, but the facts do not support the claim! It’s maddening.
You’re so in love with the IPCC, I feel like a guy telling a friend his girl is cheating on him, but you really should read this…… I’m sorry man.
“What is systematically omitted from the SPM are precisely the uncertainties and positive counter evidence that might negate the human interference theory. Instead of assessing these objections, the Summary confidently asserts just those findings that support its case. In short, this is advocacy, not assessment.”
Neil, Good job!
Neil, you say the same thing over and over and it doesn’t make it any more correct for wrong by doing so. You simply believe what you want to believe. I this whole thing is a scam don’t you think it will become obvious in a couple of years or so? I do, and then we WILL feel foolish. But what IF YOU’RE WRONG? Then WHAT? You not only feel foolish but even much much worse. You wingers are all the same. You think you know everything. No matter what “issue” Dan places on this site you seem to automatically an expert and amazingly knowledgeable about it too! You’re either some kind of genius, or savant, or something else… I am playing devils advocate mostly, to see if there is any serious intellectual questioning on your parts and I sure don’t see much if any evidence of that. Do you EVER question ANYTHING that isn’t anti-Liberal or Progressive?? If so what? So far it seems not. You probably will or would say that I am just as guilty, but I’m not. I have questioned Cap and Trade, seriously and more than once. I actually have a very open mind. And I think that is what is required for a truly mature rational person. I admit it not a common feature among many humans, and not just in this isolated self-important country.
Unfortunatly Rob we may not have a few years if they pass this treaty watch the video on http://www.globalclimatescam.com it won’t be just taxes it will be our freedom that we pay.
Excuse the typos.
10 years ago they were saying we have 8 years before it’s too late!!!!!
And it HASN’T WARMED SINCE THEN!!!!!!!!! What are you talking about?!?!?!? It’s pretty dammed obvious to me.
I say the same thing over and over because it’s what I believe to be the truth. It’s called being consistant.
And we all believe what we want to believe. That’s human nature.
You are wrong about me too. I am not an expert on everything that’s posted here. I have OPINIONS. And that’s what I post. My opinion. If I don’t know about something, I do internet searches and gather information on them. I research, form an opinion, and post it. That’s all I do. And of course I think most of what I think is correct, that’s human nature too, but if I learn that I’m wrong about something, I’ll make a correction.
To accept anything without questioning it is not having an open mind. That’s called being gullable.
Neil, Boy do I agree. We are not experts, we seem to challenge what is stuffed down our throats being told by others that they kno best. I love a challenge. Facts speak bs weeps.
You know, I am not perfect as illustrated by the fact that I said I was going to only try to post one comment per article, no more back and forth with rob, no more getting my undies in a bunch. And I have failed miserably with every single one of those things. And it’s true too that I have my biasis. For example, the U.N. I have distrusted the U.N. going as far back as 1979. Long before the AGW argument came about.
I do not believe Liberals because I use to be one, and then I grew up.
I went through a lot to get to the point that I am. I learned that approaching political ideology with your feelings is about the stupidest thing you can do. What I live by is: Feelings change, facts do not.
Neil, Facts never change, nor does my feelings for the truth. an expert I am not. I was a liberal in college until reality of working and real like kicked in. The harder I worked, the more they took. Hope to meet you some day.
I like what you said about challenging what is stuffed down our throats. That is precisely the driving force behind my opposition to AGW.
Rob says there are a “majority” of scientists around the world that agree that the planet is warming and we caused it. I, at one time believed that as well, but my distrust of the U.N., and my dislike for Al Gore forced me to question it. As a result I started looking deeper and found that there was a raging debate going on. And Al Gore said the debate was over and the science was settled. Remember that? It’s just plain common sense that tells you that when someone says the debate is over and the science is settled, and just a few mouse clicks tell you otherwise, that you are being lied to. For me it was easy to find tons of information about the opposition to the AGW hypothesis.
And now it’s October 12 and we got 2″ of snow today. Thats what I mean about the data! The data doesn’t say we’re warming. The only thing that says we are is the “majority” of scientists around the world that rely on computer models.
The latest thing I’m looking into is all the talk of the permafrost melting. It’s funny because the newest news I can find on that talk is from like Feb. It’s just another scare tactic in the never ending battle. It’s very scary to say that if the permafrost melts it could release tons of methane and CO2 and make global warming even worse!!!!!
It’s all crazy. It’s like this
Alarmist: The world has a fever and temperatures rising!
Skeptic: No it’s not see, look at the data.
Alarmist: The oceans are warming and the sea levels are rising!
Skeptic: Uh, no they’re not, look at the data.
Alarmist: Um…. The permafrost is melting and we’re going to have runaway global warming.
Skeptic: Um…. No the permafrost is fine, look see?
I just wonder what is next after the ocean acidification scare.
Neil, Chickens from the sky. Or will it be Pigs? Hope to meet you someday.
I have yet to see any amount, even the slightest, of uncertainty in any of your posts about anything. Having an opinion doesn’t make you an expert, and simply admitting suddenly that you are humble enough to admit you aren’t an expert doesn’t negate your vain attitude in your posts. And your statements scream unwavering allegience to anything and everything against Liberal/Progressive, no matter what. That’s all I’m saying. Being proud of being a “skeptic” doesn’t make any sense when you advocate 100% for one side over the other. Get it yet?
YOU ARE THE ONE WHO SAID I AM AN EXPERT ON EVERYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I did’nt say it you did. I was just responding to you. Don’t turn around and try to put that on me.
So I’m ridgid and unwavering. So what? So far as I know I have been wrong about 1/10th of 1% of everything I have posted. And when I have been wrong I’ve admitted it, and apologized for it. Maybe you’re just doing a poor job of proving me wrong.
No compromise on the issue of Climate Change. It is the biggest scam ever put upon the american people. If cap & trade passes and the bills come home to roost as well as the Gore’s and Soro’s people take your money, you will eventually see that light.
I disagree the Libs feel that it is what has to be done to “take care of everybody” the taxes are just a byproduct of the need. Oh don’t forget that the Libs are the biggest tax dodgers in the game. So they don’t think they should pay its everybody elses bill.
Robbie Boy, That is the problem with the public today. If you are committed, stay that way until you are proven otherwise. So far, I am not. Do you get it rocket science expert? Read Roy Spencer and get back to us all as well as over 500+ scientists/climatologists that disagree with global warming as published daily in the paper etc. By now I should be three feet in water? Get real. By the way, Polar bears are thriving. Must be the bread the left wing feeds them when they go see them?
To Consevatives compromise means meeting in the middle somewhere, or reaching across the isle for some sort of agreement.
To Liberals compromise means that you have to abandon what you believe and agree with them.
As I have said before. Compromise is no option on this issue. It is to vital to the nation’s interest.
Compromise is no option on this issue.
No Neil you are delusional because it is in reality just the opposite (see Paul’s response above for one example). I wish the Democrats were like the Republicans in that way, it is the only way to be when faced wtih that kind of stone wall. It surely isn’t real Democracy, but that is because it is based upon a system of legalized bribery. That is all polotics is now in this country.
Robbie Boy, I don’t waiver like the wind. Yes, if true in you convictions there is no compromise when peoples lives are at risk. At risk you say? Think about it. halve the population will be poorer for the actions that are about to be taken. Think about it for once in your natural born life!!