Durban: Wild ambit fails, but money flows. “Landmark” non legal something-arother agreed to.

By Jo Nova

Good news. The talented strategists left the UNFCCC team before COP17 in Durban. The A-graders saw the trainwreck coming and moved on.

Everyone knows it’s a herculean task to get 190-odd countries to sign anything, and with a typical pragmatical approach the UN drafting team have gone for … not just a new “International Court” (crikey!) but rights for Mother Earth (can we be sued by a rock?), and oh boy, the holy grail, the whole kit and caboodle … we demand Peace On Earth, and a  Partridge in a Pear Tree, as Part 47a, and starting by morning tea tomorrow.

Monckton  reports that the funereal collapsing Durban talks still held the highest of ambitions. Godlike even. The real action behind the posters of parrots and pleas to save pygmy corals, or spotted limpets is the plea to make some unelected bureaucrats the totalitarian Kings of The World.

In part it’s chilling, a New International Court — which could presumably try you for crimes against coastlines, clouds, or (more likely) against endangered windfarms. Those with their hands on the legal wheel want the power to direct money (was that $1.6 Trillion?)  from the richest nations to their friends, patrons, or pet causes. If they became the anointed Kings, it would swiftly become a crime to speak doubts of climate models upon which billions of trades depends.  The darkest evil always comes cloaked with helpful intentions.

Fortunately, what’s left of the UN strategic team is even lower caliber than B-grade, beyond Z, somewhere into hexadecimal.

Ladies and Gentlemen, the grown-ups in the IPCC-support-team left the party sometime after Copenhagen, and the Z++ team are left to guard the bones. No one can take this wild ambit claim seriously.

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24 Responses to Durban: Wild ambit fails, but money flows. “Landmark” non legal something-arother agreed to.

  1. Hal Groar December 13, 2011 at 10:39 pm #

    Get the UN out of this Country!!! They are out to destroy the US.

    • NEIL F. AGWD/BSD December 15, 2011 at 6:24 am #

      I have always maintained that the UN is full of people who hate the US, and are constantly devising ways to screw us. Many people believe that the IPCC, for example, is trying to save the planet from AGW. But it is, in reality, trying to cripple the US economy. IMO.

      • Rob N. Hood December 23, 2011 at 3:22 pm #

        What if… the UN was really run mostly by and for elites, some of whom call the USA “home”, who do not hold any real allegience to any country?

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  3. Rob N. Hood December 15, 2011 at 8:00 am #

    Methinks we don’t need any outside help crippling our won economy, thank you very much.

  4. Joe December 15, 2011 at 7:26 pm #

    I agree, with the stricter EPA restrictions recently imposed, business not knowing what is coming next to plan five years into their future investments, or lack of and Obama’s putting off the Canadian pipeline until AFTER the election costing over a minimum 25,000 or more new jobs to people that are now getting unemployment for another umpteen months. Thank our wonderful Leader as he goes to Hawaii. Yes, we need no “outside” help it is an inside job pure and simple.

  5. Rob N. Hood December 16, 2011 at 8:10 am #

    BTW I don’t place all the blame on Obama. He’s just the elites’ errand boy. (excuse the boy reference). “Disaster” capitalism is the end game for our system of economics. This has been the case for decades now. Both parties are bought and paid for by the elite.

  6. joe December 17, 2011 at 1:31 am #

    You are wrong. Capitalism is the key. Profits fuel the economy pure and simple. My daughter and I had this discussion this evening. She’s going for her MBA and her professor agreed. I was shocked. Thought they were all left wing liberal. Never assume, as I say.

  7. Rob N. Hood December 17, 2011 at 9:16 am #

    Re-read my statement. I am not against capitalism. Only its excess. Even you could agree that excess is usually a bad thing. Or not. You dislike agreement. To believe our system is not cannibalising itself is to ignore all logical signs and rational thought.

  8. Joe December 18, 2011 at 10:43 pm #

    Just what is Excess? How much is to much? Is there a bar? How high or low do you want it? Fortunately in a capitalistic society there is no financial/monetary bar, i.e, (Microsoft, Apple, HP, IBM, 3M, Ford for example) Your goal is to make as much as possible in profit to pay your employees and stockholders that invested their hard earned monies into your venture that got you there accordingly. No risk no reward. As you make more in profits you employ more people and expand, if you fail you loss employees/stockholders and simply close your doors and everyone goes home with an empty, employees/shareholders/owner. There is no gray area in private enterprises nor a bailout unless of course the government steps in like GM and does not let the markets take its course. Simple economics 101. Try running a business once in your life as I do and you will understand when payroll comes due, revenue forecasting, expenses constantly reviewed, et al. It all falls on the owner, not the employee nor people that have no understanding of how a business works in the private sector.

  9. Rob N. Hood December 19, 2011 at 8:10 am #

    I believe I already explained that above. Plus common sense helps a lot. Yes, yes, we know… job-creators are such beleagured and misunderstood saintly creatures, huh. We “others” know nothing about your magical and difficult endeavors. We “others” are too stupid and un appreciative of you superior entities and your heavenly works. We all bow down to you, praise you, and lick your feet. (really, we do that- but it’s not enough for you apparently)

  10. Rob N. Hood December 19, 2011 at 12:31 pm #

    BTW- I have great respect for small/medium employers, and even do sympathize with some of their complaints. They/you aren’t treated as well by the powers-that-be, because they are bought and paid for by the big boys. Same old story. It is seriously counter-productive for folks like us to fight and bicker. We are not the problem. Perhaps we need to be the solution. They divide and conquer us daily. The small business is treated like the middle class is treat/mistreated. Used and abused for the benefit of the big boys and their water carriers.

  11. Joe December 19, 2011 at 10:46 pm #

    A small business can turn into a big business with the right product or service. see it all the time. You have a limited view of how capitalism works and can tell from your negative posts (nobody/company I know divides and conquers) Starting with limited capital and building a business is more that 40-50 hour weeks and a vacation. More like 80+++ hours weekly if not more. It is dedication to what you are selling/producing that the public wants. If unsuccessful you go out of business and lose your life savings. If successful you could employ thousands of new people thereafter not being able to keep up with the demand for your product. (Takes employees) Of course that takes risk into the equation that “99%” will not undertake nor some understand because it may be too risky and they like their 9 to 5 and home by 6 p.m. jobs. There is the difference.

  12. Rob N. Hood December 20, 2011 at 8:26 am #

    Wow- ok. You continue to dig yourself into the same hole only deeper- AND continue to disparage even after I honestly praise the general likes of you. Instead of proving whatever point you’re trying to make (i.e. that you are soo mcuh more smarter than me, and I have noo idea what I’m talking about) you are actually consistently making my points- as do many on this site- seemingly without fail. It apparently doesn’t take much insight (strict definition of the word) to become successful in business. But I already figured that part out a long time ago. Yes, you are (presumably) hard working, but also lucky to have the support from a good country, a solid middle class (less solid daily), infrastructure, etc. You and I should be on the same team, but alas, there’s an elite-created abyss betwixt us.

  13. Joe December 20, 2011 at 7:42 pm #

    An “elitist” is only “elite” in their own mind. I have no idea what an “Elitist” looks like. Golfed a few years ago with a gentleman and his wife that looked like he was a retired old 72 year old ditch digger (I once was) Found out after that he was the CEO of one of the biggest wineries in the world. By the way, he used a coupon as I to get the $37.95 fee to go 18 holes. He could have bought the place! Finally, he started with nothing to start the business. Just a typical american that reached for the brass ring and went for it. He, as well as I still cut coupons!

  14. Rob N. Hood December 21, 2011 at 8:04 am #

    Oh- the old (and precious) “gosh I don’t know what an elitist is- except if and when they are latte sipping Left Coasters” faux-argument. Your little anecdote is just that- another useless way to refute that which you don’t want to understand or pretend you cannot. It’s ok- there are many many people who do. And for the record Joe/joe I didn’t call you an elitist nor, do I believe, I even inferred it.

  15. Joe December 21, 2011 at 10:53 pm #

    Can tell you have never ever in your life taken a risk have you? Risk your life savings? Dedicated your 80 hour weeks for hopefully a reward? I doubt it. You are nothing but hot air that never went for it and envy those that worked hard and made it. How much do you wish that I send you from my hard work on an annual basis to keep you “equal to me” with no sweat off your brow? Oops, forgot, you are “entitled” to get your “Fair share” and be equal. Thank our wonderful President for dividing America. Called “Change” is it?????

  16. Rob N. Hood December 22, 2011 at 8:06 am #

    Joe you may believe you know something or anything about me, in your own “wild” imagination, but you do not. Your usual suppositions and assumptions are what constitutes any hot air you may be experiencing. And you are so wildly mistaken if you think it’s Obama who has/is dividing this country. Where have you been the last 30 years, in a cave in Afgahanistan?

  17. Joe December 22, 2011 at 9:45 pm #

    No, Chicago listening to Community Organizers that never dealt in reality.

    • Rob N. Hood December 26, 2011 at 6:08 pm #

      …Law Professor.

  18. Rob N. Hood December 23, 2011 at 8:06 am #

    Oh I see. You have that strict monopoly on reality. God-like you are.

  19. Joe December 23, 2011 at 11:18 pm #

    I’m a realist.

  20. Rob N. Hood January 9, 2012 at 8:06 am #

    … last fall’s shrimp harvest was dismal. “The numbers on our shrimp are way down,” he said. “They (BP) make it sound like they’re doing a lot, but they’re not doing much to help the fishermen out … I got good fishermen struggling to pay their bills right now.”

    The head of the Louisiana Shrimp Association, a commercial shrimpers group, called it “BP propaganda.”

    “When you have a lot of money, you can pretty much get any point across,” Clint Guidry complained. “It’s kind of like indoctrination.”

  21. Joe January 14, 2012 at 1:09 am #

    Simply what is your rambling point? We know your stance on all don’t we. Enlighten us more fully please.

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