The President's Oil Spill Speech

obama-200President Obama delivered his first Oval Office speech on the heels of his latest visit to the Gulf region – the fourth since the Deepwater Horizon rig explosion in April. With such an environmental and economic crisis present, the president needs to exert leadership to protect our precious coastal resources and clean up the spill, says Nicolas Loris, a research assistant at the Heritage Foundation’s Roe Institute for Economic Policy Studies.

His message was the wrong one, says Loris. Instead, he continued to politicize the crisis by pushing for cap and trade legislation and to establish a separate claims fund — financed by BP — that will do very little to address the issue at hand. President Obama is right in saying that the Gulf region will bounce back, but not with the policies of cap and trade and banning offshore drilling that he’s suggesting.

Read the rest at National Center for Policy Analysis.

73 Responses to The President's Oil Spill Speech

  1. Rob N. Hood June 16, 2010 at 3:32 pm #

    Obama won’t ban of shore drilling, for very long anyway. That would be the day. To believe otherwise is to believe in the tooth fairy.

    Meanwhile, the “anti-war” president has been overseeing the expansion of the size of the Army itself. In fact, when it comes to the Global War on Terror — even with the name now in disuse — the profligacy can still take your breath away.

    Consider, for instance, the $2.2 billion Host Nation Trucking contract the Pentagon uses to pay protection money to Afghan security companies which, in turn, slip some part of those payments to the Taliban to let American supplies travel safely on Afghan roads. Or if you don’t want to think about how your tax dollar supports the Taliban, consider the $683,000 the Pentagon spent, according to the Washington Post, to “renovate a cafe that sells ice cream and Starbucks coffee” at its base/prison in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. Or the $773,000 used there “to remodel a cinder-block building to house a KFC/Taco Bell restaurant,” or the $7.3 million spent on baseball and football fields, or the $60,000 batting cage, or a promised $20,000 soccer cage, all part of the approximately two billion dollars that have gone into the American base and prison complex that Barack Obama promised to, but can’t, close.

    Or what about the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad, that 104-acre, almost three-quarters-of-a-billion-dollar, 21-building homage to the American-mall-as-fortified-citadel? It costs more than $1.5 billion a year to run, and bears about as much relationship to an “embassy” as McDonald’s does to a neighborhood hamburger joint. According to a recent audit, millions of dollars in “federal property” assigned to what is essentially a vast command center for the region, including 159 of the embassy’s 1,168 vehicles, are missing or unaccounted for.

    • NEIL F. AGWD/BSD June 16, 2010 at 8:34 pm #

      Obama didn’t mention any of that. Now, assuming any of that is true, which I have no way of knowing if it is true, what does any of it have to do with Obama’s speech? You just throw these things out there and expect us to take your word for it, that it’s gospel truth? Who are you? Why are you here? It is certainly not to discuss AGW issues. Does someone pay you to do this? I sometimes wonder about that. Why else would you do this?

  2. paul wenum June 16, 2010 at 11:15 pm #

    Neil, I agree. Podesta perhaps? He runs Obama. Of course that’s a compliment to Robby Boy. Obama is a child when it comes to running this country. Sad, but true. Typical Saul tactic by Robby Boy. Always changes the subject when his backside is showing. Never changes.

  3. NEIL F. AGWD/BSD June 17, 2010 at 5:42 am #

    Paul, he changes the subject on everything that is posted if his backside is showing or not. Rob is not a normal person. I say that because I think a normal person would have given up long ago. We see it all the time when normal people who disagree with us will post something, then will post 1, or 2 responses, and will give up because they realize that we will not change our minds from their assertions. Rob, on the other hand, consistantly posts things that are not only off the subject, but are usually derogatory to Conservative thought. And when he is challenged he will go off in another direction that usually includes bashing Bush, or Reagan. So it is only a theory but I think he is a paid operative who’s job it is to derail, deflect, and misdirect. Why would anyone bother otherwise?

  4. paul wenum June 17, 2010 at 9:20 pm #

    Neil, I agree, but you know me, I never give up. Must be in my genes. I never take “no” for an answer. Paid shill he may be? We shall see my friend. Will investigate further.

  5. NEIL F. AGWD/BSD June 18, 2010 at 6:10 am #

    I just have one thing to say about President Obama. If you voted for him, you are a moron!

  6. Rob N. Hood June 18, 2010 at 6:30 am #

    That’s how I felt about anyone who voted for W. (is Dan asleep at the editing wheel today, why does he allow you guys to insult me, and I cannot do the same? His prerogative I guess.)

    However, at least I can recognize when the person I voted for is violating my trust. At least I can criticize the person I voted for and honestly and point out for all to see where I think he or she is wrong or even crooked. I’ve NEVER seen or heard anything like that from the Right. Lock-step and goose-step, all the way.

    One more thing- I voted for CHANGE. Isn’t that what you all keep saying you want? I merely wanted the same (sort of). I didn’t get what I voted for. Do you always get what you vote for?

    • Dan McGrath June 18, 2010 at 9:54 am #

      Zzzzzzz…. Anyone who’s had a comment approved is then trusted to post comments unmoderated. Believe it or not, I have other responsibilities and don’t monitor this blog 24 hours a day. When I find violations of the rules in the comments, I delete or edit the comments. This one is borderline. It casts a wide net.

      Let’s stay away from personal insults and stick to the issues. If I get tired of editing someone’s frequent infractions, I’ll suspend that commentator or flag them for moderation.

      • NEIL F. AGWD/BSD June 18, 2010 at 10:12 pm #

        That was a very wide net indeed. I guess I can modify that to a lot of people who voted for Obama are idiots, the rest were duped by a press that built him up. The same press that tore Bush down.

        • Rob N. Hood June 27, 2010 at 7:18 am #

          Bush tore himself down.

    • NEIL F. AGWD/BSD June 18, 2010 at 6:10 pm #

      I did not direct that comment at you specifically. But if the shoe fits!!

  7. Rob N. Hood June 18, 2010 at 9:58 am #

    Thanks Dan. Now for something comepletely different:

    As an institution, the Pentagon runs on oil. Its jet fighters, bombers, tanks, Humvees, and other vehicles burn 75% of the fuel used by the Department of Defense. For example, B-52 bombers consume 47,000 gallons per mission, and when an F-16 fighter kicks in its afterburners, it burns through $300 worth of fuel a minute. In fact, according to an article in the April 2010 issue of Energy Source, the official newsletter of the Pentagon’s fuel-buying component, the DoD purchases three billion gallons of jet fuel per year.

    Thanks to the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, the Department of Defense has been consuming vast quantities of fuel. According to 2008 figures, for example, U.S. military bases in Iraq and Afghanistan used a staggering 90 million gallons per month. Given the base-building boom that preceded President Obama’s Afghan surge, the 2010 figures may be significantly higher.

    In 2009, according to the Pentagon’s Defense Energy Support Center (DESC), the military spent $3.8 billion for 31.3 million barrels — around 1.3 billion gallons — of oil consumed at posts, camps, and bases overseas. Moreover, DESC’s bulk-fuels division, which purchases jet fuel and naval diesel fuel among other petroleum products, awarded $2.2 billion in contracts to support operations in Iraq and Afghanistan last year. Another $974 million was reportedly spent by the ground-fuels division, which awards contracts for diesel fuel, gasoline, and heating oil for ground operations, just for the war in Afghanistan in 2009.

    Seems Monty Pythonesque doesn’t it? Or maybe just plain absurd…

    • NEIL F. AGWD/BSD June 18, 2010 at 10:22 pm #

      You can’t drop JDAM’s with Prius!
      welfare spending is so large it is difficult to comprehend. On average, the annual cost of the welfare system amounts to around $5,600 in taxes from each household that paid federal income tax in 2000. Adjusting for inflation, the amount taxpayers now spend on welfare each year is greater than the value of the entire U.S. Gross National Product at the beginning of the 20th century.

      • NEIL F. AGWD/BSD June 20, 2010 at 9:09 am #

        Obviously I meant to say “a” prius. As for the welfare spending bit, here is a chart that is a bit more current with projections to 2015. It puts defense spending to shame. We spend way more domestically on welfare than we do on military operations. Which one do you think has more waste, fraud, and abuse going on?

      • Rob N. Hood June 20, 2010 at 2:39 pm #

        Those numbers are probably bull. Bottom line is if the wealthy and corporations paid thier fair share you’d be paying much less. Why not cut the War budget. Everything else has been cut to the bone, except that. We are doomed, just like the USSR. Duh.

        • NEIL F. AGWD/BSD June 20, 2010 at 4:12 pm #

          Maybe if the so called poor in this country weren’t provided the nessecaties, like, you know, plasma widescreen tv’s, cable, cell phones, video games, and cars on the taxpayer’s dime, the rich wouldn’t have to hide their assests, and use tax loopholes to avoid paying the outrageous taxes. Don’t go blaming the wealthy, and corporations, who by the way already foot the largest part of the bill, for doing those things. It is not a taxation problem, it is a spending problem. And what, what I ask you, has been cut to the bone? Where have budgets been cut? Liberals like to cry that there is a cut when they don’t get the increase they want, or the increase is a few percentage points less than they want. Is that what you mean? Because that goes back to the meaning of words. And saying that “Everything else has been cut to the bone” is hyperbole if I’ve ever heard it!!!! Now, If I call you an a******, will Dan still edit it if I insist that it doesn’t mean what he thinks it means?

    • Dan McGrath July 5, 2010 at 10:44 pm #

      I’m OK with that. Military might is expensive. As the only free nation on earth in a sea of totalatarian dictators who’d love the opportunity to pillage the success we’ve built on individual liberty, I see defense as a top priority. In the words of Ronald Reagan, “If all of this seems like a great deal of trouble, think what’s at stake. We are faced with the most evil enemy mankind has known in his long climb from the swamp to the stars. There can be no security anywhere in the free world if there is no fiscal and economic stability within the United States. Those who ask us to trade our freedom for the soup kitchen of the welfare state are architects of a policy of accommodation.” and another pertinent line (Reagan was seminal), “You and I have a rendezvous with destiny. We will preserve for our children this, the last best hope of man on earth, or we will sentence them to take the first step into a thousand years of darkness. If we fail, at least let our children and our children’s children say of us we justified our brief moment here. We did all that could be done.”

  8. Rob N. Hood June 20, 2010 at 7:50 pm #

    You don’t know poor, obviously. Anyway, Obama is just another tool of the oligarchy, and hey buddy, they ain’t poor.

    I work in the trenches re: helping people keep what sanity and dignity this country has left to offer them, and it all IS cut to the bone! You are ignorant on the subject and don’t know what your talking about.

    You can love our rich overlords if you want to, but it is a seriously naive thing to beleive in. And it serves to help keep us all groveling and fighting over their scraps just to survive. So I won’t be thanking you for doing your part.

    • NEIL F. AGWD/BSD June 20, 2010 at 10:07 pm #

      I don’t love the “rich overlords” as you put it. I’m just not envious, and jealous of them like you are. And I do know poor! I just never needed a psycholgist, psyhcotherapist , or psychoanalist, or whatever the heck you claim you are, to tell me anything. I was poor, and I did something about it. I worked hard, and went to school to learn a trade, and now I’m ok. I’m not rich by any stretch of the imagination. But guess what, there are people out there who are on the government dole, who don’t work, who have a nicer car than I do, a bigger tv than I do, a nicer cell phone than I do, and all of it is paid for by you, me, and everyone else who pays taxes. I see it all the time. I go to people’s homes and work on their appliances. I service anyone, and everyone, every working day, so don’t try to tell me what I know or don’t know.
      And puh-lease, “I work in the trenches”? What do you tell these people you “help”? That it’s not their fault? That it’s the rich elites who have taken everything, and nothing is left for them? If that’s what you are telling them then it’s your fault they will stay in the situation they are in. You’re probably making them more depressed than they were. What is your success rate, and what is your suicide rate? I wonder……………..

      • Rob N. Hood June 21, 2010 at 8:23 am #

        So… let me get this straight. You don’t love or even envy the rich, but you do envy the “poor” because they have much better things than you do. Do you realize (apparently not) how twisted that illogic of yours is?? Again- all I can say to that is YOU DON’T KNOW POOR. I mean real poverty, beyond the ability of certian people for MANY different reasons that is not their fault and beyond thier control. Yes, there are some lazy people out there. I’m not talking about them, and your confusion about that is very clear.

        And I help to empower people to do just what you did. So that should make you happy, but I know it won’t. You will find something wrong with that too.

        You have poor envy. THAT IS MENTAL DYSFUNCTION!!!!!!

        • NEIL F. AGWD/BSD June 21, 2010 at 12:33 pm #

          No, you misunderstand Rob. I am not envious of the poor. I resent that some of them have a better standard of living than I do and it is FUNDED BY MY TAX DOLLARS!!!!!!!! I work my but off every day, and there are people who collect money from the government who do not work and are able to work. Why should I support them? That’s what I’m talking about. How thick is your skull?

  9. Rob N. Hood June 20, 2010 at 8:43 pm #

    There is a deep and serious pathology in our society when the economically oppressed white working class can be manipulated to hate those below them on the financial ladder, instead of uniting in solidarity to demand of the super wealthy their fair share in taxes and of American-based global corporations a code of civilized behavior that looks out for the interests of their workers and their nation.

    But the hissing snake – Limbaugh, and others of the Right-biased MSM– in the Garden of Rich Eden, continues to whisper the words of demagoguery as he fattens himself at the trough of corporate sponsorship that is only too happy to have a master deceiver on their payroll, leading the exploited and shrinking middle class off the cliff of misplaced fear and hatred – a Pied Piper for the Tony Haywards of the world.

    • NEIL F. AGWD/BSD June 21, 2010 at 8:38 pm #

      Rob your view of reality is 180 degrees backwards but that is on purpose. Isn’t it? The path to Communism is paved by class warfare, which is a fire ignited by the left and fanned by statements like the one above. And why do you malign someone that you have never listened to? I don’t like Keith Olberman, but I don’t say anything about him because I don’t listen to him.

  10. Hal Groar June 20, 2010 at 8:53 pm #

    Well Rob, I am waiting to hear the answer to Neil’s question, what has been cut? An honest to God cut?! I obviously do not work in the trenches so I am not privy to all the in’s and out’s of the trench, so tell me what has been truly cut (I will verify you are correct). I think that is a fair way to go about it. I do not think you will be able to give an example. Clinton’s welfare reform does not count, people on welfare back then should not be on welfare now. That is not what the system is supposed to do. (Unless your a liberal who wants the rich to pay your way for life) This idea that the “rich” need to pay their fair share is a complete joke. A flat tax is all we need, for all! Regardless of income!

    • NEIL F. AGWD/BSD June 20, 2010 at 10:10 pm #

      I’m waiting too, but I’m not going to hold my breath………………

    • Rob N. Hood June 21, 2010 at 8:26 am #

      So why do you say we need a new tax system if you alredy think the very rich already pay their fair share? Who is not paying their fair share – the poor? You can’t get blood out of turnip as they say. Can you repsond to this logic or is it too rational for you to comprehend?

      • Dan June 21, 2010 at 8:43 am #

        Actually, the poor don’t pay their fair share. In federal income tax, they pay nothing and often receive a refund (subsidy) anyway. This is a serious problem, because these people vote. Why not vote to raise taxes if you aren’t going to take a hit yourself? Our “progressive” tax system is designed to build in a voting block with every incentive to raise taxes on everyone else for their own gain. That’s morally reprehensible. Everyone should have to contribute something. We can’t carry on having one group paying and another growing group receiving and expect to maintain our republic.

  11. paul wenum June 20, 2010 at 9:42 pm #

    Love the discourse. You may someday come to agreement?

    • NEIL F. AGWD/BSD June 20, 2010 at 10:12 pm #

      What? Agreement on what? I’m sorry, I just don’t get what you mean Paul.

  12. paul wenum June 20, 2010 at 11:45 pm #

    Rob and others may change. Highly unlikely my friend. Most don’t know what I mean, however believe you will.

  13. Rob N. Hood June 21, 2010 at 8:29 am #

    As to what has been cut- you guys simply don’t pay attention to local news, etc. EVERYTHING is being cut or has been, EXCEPT FOR THE MILITARY.

    It is such a daily reality that if you cannot accept that statement you are either totally brainswashed or do not pay attention to reality.

    And yet, the conservatives demand more cuts- from EVERYTHING EXCEPT THE MILITARY (and their own benefits and salaries). Is this not true? Yes, it is.

    • NEIL F. AGWD/BSD June 21, 2010 at 12:35 pm #

      That is not a specific example Rob.

      • NEIL F. AGWD/BSD June 21, 2010 at 8:47 pm #

        I just did a search for “Minnesota budgets cut to the bone” and all that comes up are a few stories about people whining about Pawlenty cutting the budget deficit by 1/3. Your statement is just not supported by the facts Rob. In other words THERE IS NO EVIDENCE THAT YOU ARE CORRECT!!!!!

      • Rob N. Hood June 27, 2010 at 7:22 am #

        But it is reality- sorry. To list everything that has been cut would take days. It’s easier to list what hasn’t, i.e. the MIC.

  14. Hal Groar June 21, 2010 at 9:17 pm #

    Your going to have to be more specific Rob, I can’t Google “everything cut” in a budgetary search. So I guess I am either brainwashed or need to pay more attention. (wouldn’t I have to pay attention to be brainwashed?) I also find it funny that the only thing Rob is worried about cutting is the one thing mandated in the constitution. All the other things he doesn’t want cut are not in the constitution. Rob, I think the rich pay too much. I agree with Dan on this, the poor need to pony up! Like I said, flat tax for all! Regardless of income.

    • NEIL F. AGWD/BSD June 22, 2010 at 5:35 am #

      A flat tax is the way to go I think, but as we all know this website isn’t about what we think, it’s all about what Rob thinks. Ain’t it? And Rob thinks the rich are rich because they have stolen all of the money from the poor. So it is only fair that the rich are taken down a few pegs to teach them a lesson. That’s what that one song says “Tax the rich, feed the poor, till there are no, rich no more”. I mean a song says it so it must be the way to go. Right?

  15. paul wenum June 21, 2010 at 9:44 pm #

    Thank you Dan, I agree. The CBO came out with figures today. Interesting. Case closed.

  16. Rob N. Hood June 22, 2010 at 7:16 am #

    It may have seemed we had reached a high point in social structuring that provided the best of all worlds – – a competitive industrial base and a stable workforce. Conservatives warned about creeping socialism with the introduction of Social Security and other entitlements but in reality the nation became enmeshed in a series of corporate takeovers that created behemoth-sized companies and, in the end, took over the people of America. Trans-continental companies engaged in tax-avoidance practices that kept accountants busy and government short of income for its growing commitments. It is often said that we have the highest corporate tax-rate of any industrialized country, but while it may look that way on paper, the results of off-shoring and other gimmickry enable companies to hide income and pay much lower taxes than the nominal rate would suggest.

    • NEIL F. AGWD/BSD June 22, 2010 at 10:01 pm #

      Says who?

    • NEIL F. AGWD/BSD June 23, 2010 at 4:43 pm #

      Thanks Ann Davidow.

      • NEIL F. AGWD/BSD June 26, 2010 at 7:19 am #

        Ann Davidow is the person who wrote what Rob posted, the article is here: Oh, and no big deal that he doesn’t credit his sources? I just did a search for it by pasting the first sentence into the search box, and what was the second search result? Why, it was this very page of, a post by a Rob N’ Hood!!! So appearantly the internet is crediting Rob as the author. So screw Davidow I guess. Eh Rob?

  17. paul wenum June 22, 2010 at 10:25 pm #

    Neil, Damn do I agree with you! Work your arse off, make a profit, become quote un quote successful and you are chastised for working hard from people like Robbie Boy that never took a risk or spent their life savings on a dream. Yes, they sit and dream about what they would do if the had a lot of money but they dream, they don’t do/take the financial/emotional/family risk involved. That is the difference in life. There are people that work hard for a living such as my Father/Mother and then there are others that expect it to come to them like the Lotto. There is a hell of a difference! Life does not come easy. Trust me, I’ve been there numerous times. Enough said.

  18. Rob N. Hood June 23, 2010 at 7:35 am #

    Paul, you agree with “Says who” ??!! Really? Wow- Neil’s powers of persuaison must be much stronger than I realized. Ach Tung baby !!

  19. paul wenum June 23, 2010 at 10:22 pm #

    I listen to all sides. Why I listen to you is beyond comprehension.

  20. Rob N. Hood June 26, 2010 at 7:56 am #

    Neil- Mr. Morality… what about the disaster in the Gulf? Small potatoes eh? No biggy… but that Robbie Boy, he’s a serious issue!

    I guess if I used my real name it might be considered “shady”… But I will try and post authors’ names from now on. It is proper I suppose. To me the message is more important than the messenger. But I guess we humans have greater priorities than saving ourselves or the planet. We must cross those T’s and dot those i’s !! Wow.

  21. paul wenum June 26, 2010 at 10:54 pm #

    I use my own name that I was born with and proud of. I cannot understand why you, as well as others don’t. I have no fear in what I personally believe in. Apparently You do. I dislike people that hide behind a fake name and insult people. Do you find that entertaining? I speak my beliefs and am not ashamed for what I speak. Hiding behind a fake name, must be cool, makes me think less of anyone that posts on this or any other. I’m old school, I can deal with adversity/criticism. Obviously you cannot. If I suffer the consequences, so be it! A “Scot” is always true to themselves. Never forget that “nameless one.” What say you?

  22. Rob N. Hood June 27, 2010 at 7:29 am #

    So you dislike “Neil F.”…?

    So you want to be the dictator or “the decider”, eh Paul? Do it your way or the highway?

    One reason I don’t use my “real” name is I am literally afraid of people like you. You’ve hinted enough about investigating me, etc. Some anonymity and confidentiality is important sometimes, even necessary. You are free to post your name, and we are free not to. Some freedoms are good, huh? Isn’t that one of the main points you all keep making? And yet you want to decrease a simple freedom, one of the few we serfs actually have left? Wow.

  23. Hal Groar June 27, 2010 at 9:49 pm #

    Well Robbie boy, I gave you a week to come up with a SINGLE cut. I got nothing. So your point is not valid and maybe with a little help from Dan we can have it removed. Better yet, let’s leave it there so we can point all new comers to it to explain why Rob is not to be listened to. Yes! That is a good idea!

    • Rob N. Hood July 1, 2010 at 1:49 pm #

      Not a single one, no. Thousands yes. And a thousand small cuts will bleed you to death just as well as the big ones do. Just a little slower.

      I used to think a light would eventually go on in the Right-wing brain. But now I know differently.

      Even if/when the bitter end arrives for this country you all will still be blaming “the Liberals” irregardless of the more correct alternate reality.

  24. paul wenum June 27, 2010 at 10:16 pm #

    Fear of your opinions right wrong or indifferent is the problem in America today. Everyone is “anonymous.” Always found that a contradiction. Fear is self induced, facts speak volumes with names behind them. Fear of an opposing disagreeing party knowing your name is a cop-out in my humble opinion. That said, you are correct that some people are afraid to post their personal opinions due to possible job loss, public scrutiny, embarrassment et al. I fear no retribution for speaking my thoughts and I will take the consequences, if and when they come. If there is retribution American as a whole has a major problem. As if we don’t today. I have no regrets. Rob, it must be the hardheaded Scot in me. For that I stand guilty as charged.

  25. Rob N. Hood July 1, 2010 at 1:51 pm #

    and Groar is Hal’s real last name? I doubt it, but then again I couldn’t give a rat’s…

  26. paul wenum July 1, 2010 at 10:00 pm #

    Yes it is my friend. Dan may delete this but Hal, like me, tells it the way he sees it. (Right or Wrong) If you cannot take the heat don’t post without conviction which Hal and I do with no fear of retribution as well as Neil whom I deeply respect. That, my friend, is the difference between us. We acknowledge our existence in the real world. That is the problem in today’s society. No conviction and hiding behind a pseudonym seems to be the norm in today’s society. That is the sad part of your posts as well as our society today. Enough said.

  27. Rob N. Hood July 2, 2010 at 6:22 am #

    Neil’s last name is what…?

  28. Rob N. Hood July 2, 2010 at 6:25 am #

    You don’t understand the internet Paul. Privacy is a big deal to some- not all, but to some. You are the one who doesn’t care about anything you don’t understand or don’t agree with. THAT, “my friend”, is the problem with society- and always has been in EVERY society.

  29. paul wenum July 2, 2010 at 9:10 pm #

    I’m “Transparent” not like our administration. Is that a problem? As to every society? It took people with firm beliefs that vocalized their believes with no fear that made this country great. I have no fear when I make own personal opinions known. When I do, we will definitely have a problem.

  30. Rob N. Hood July 3, 2010 at 12:57 pm #

    The Bush administration was transparent? Please answer the question without the added gibberish- or don’t bother at all. Thanks.

  31. paul wenum July 3, 2010 at 10:50 pm #

    “Gibberish.” Nice word. Can’t you get more creative? You never answer direct questions. Give me a a list of the Bush Administration transparency v: Obama? I’d love to see the comparison. We are impatiently awaiting. You seem to be able to cut and paste that I, as an old man cannot. We await your answer. In fact I relish the comparison. Go for it and let me know.

  32. Rob N. Hood July 4, 2010 at 7:34 am #

    I’ve answered this line of rhetoric of yours time and time again… what’s the deal with you anyway, really?

    So once again here’s my non-answer (for the last time): The reason I will not be voting for Obama is that he is part of the same elite as Bush and has continued Bush’s policies almost completely (that ain’t Liberal!). It’s just a game the Dems and Repugs play and have been playing for a long time. They[re all basically actors. All for the continued benefit of the elite.

    That appears to be a very clean and thorough answer to your question. To any sane person that is.

    • Dan McGrath July 5, 2010 at 10:25 pm #

      I think he’s from a different group of “elites.” Obama is probably part of the Chicago gangster machine. They are bold and will stop at nothing to grab a few trillion bucks (or whatever they can get, whatever the consequence) while the opportunity is fresh.

  33. paul wenum July 6, 2010 at 9:37 pm #

    Thank you Dan. I actually received a response. Refreshing.

  34. Rob N. Hood July 9, 2010 at 6:08 am #

    Hogwash Dan. Pure hogwash. There’s only one elite now. They run the gamut of Repub and Dems and only the ones that play their game with them and for them get the top jobs. that way they beomce them fully- by enrichment and clout and access to everything that money can buy.

    I learned that by voting for a guy I thought was genuinely Liberal. They fooled me for the last time.

  35. paul wenum July 9, 2010 at 11:29 pm #

    “Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.” Next time, thoroughly investigate who you vote for. Talk is cheap. Actions speak.
    you learned that from the last election didn’t you? By the way, you as many others. You are not the “Lone Stranger.”


  36. Rob N. Hood July 11, 2010 at 3:05 pm #

    Ignorance is bliss.

  37. paul wenum July 12, 2010 at 8:45 pm #

    For you, that is a factual statement.

  38. Rob N. Hood July 13, 2010 at 7:29 am #

    Wrong- because I don’t live in bliss. Maybe if I had a cabin, a boat house, and a boat…

  39. paul wenum July 13, 2010 at 10:05 pm #

    Suggest that you work for it like I did and still do as well as others.

  40. Rob N. Hood July 14, 2010 at 7:38 am #

    Thanks for that valuable advice. Must get a third job I guess. Drop that lazy sleeping crap and pull myself up by the ol’ bootstraps!

  41. paul wenum July 14, 2010 at 9:46 pm #

    Suggest that you do just that like all of us in today’s economy. Never wore bootstraps. Well, maybe when a Boy Scout? Whatever. Pull em up!

  42. paul wenum July 18, 2010 at 10:15 pm #

    Make nice cowboy boots.

  43. Rob N. Hood July 20, 2010 at 3:46 pm #

    Your brain would make a nice cowboy boot.

  44. paul wenum July 20, 2010 at 10:05 pm #

    Empty boots are useless.

  45. Rob N. Hood July 26, 2010 at 8:41 am #

    My thoughts exactly.

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