Control: The House and Senate climate bills contain a provision giving the president extraordinary powers in the event of a “climate emergency.” As chief of staff Rahm Emanuel says, a crisis is a terrible thing to waste.
If you thought the House health care bill that nobody read has hidden passages that threaten our freedoms and liberty, take a peak at the “trigger” placed in the byzantine innards of both the House-passed Waxman-Markey bill and the Kerry-Boxer bill just passed by Democrats out of Sen. Barbara Boxer’s Environment and Public Works Committee.
As Nick Loris of the Heritage Foundation points out, the Kerry-Boxer bill requires the declaration of a “climate emergency” if the concentration of carbon dioxide and other declared greenhouse gases in the atmosphere exceeds 450 parts per million (ppm). It was at about 286 ppm before the Industrial Revolution and now sits at around 368 ppm.
That figure was picked out of a hat because the warm-mongers believe that’s the level at which the polar ice caps will disappear, boats can be moored on the Statue of Liberty’s torch and dead polar bears will wash up on the beaches of Malibu.
The Senate version includes a section that gives the president authority, under this declared “climate emergency,” to “direct all Federal agencies to use existing statutory authority to take appropriate actions … to address shortfalls” in achieving greenhouse gas (GHG) reductions.
What the “appropriate actions” might be are not defined and presumably left up to the discretion of the White House. Could the burning of coal be suspended or recreational driving be banned? Sen. David Vitter, R-La., asked the EPA for a definition and received no response.
Competitive Enterprise Institute scholar Chris Horner says “this agenda transparently is not about GHG concentrations, or the climate. It’s about what the provision would bring: almost limitless power over private economic activity and individual liberty for the activist president and, for the reluctant leader, litigious greens and courts” packed by liberal Democrat appointees.
Now if everyone who is anyone is so worried about CO2 levels – How many people are cutting Christmas trees for the festive season instead of allowing the poor organisms to continue to live and absorb CO2 instead of decomposing on the trash heap or burning in a fireplace?
At less than 200-260 ppm atmospheric CO2, plants struggle to survive.
At 400-500 ppm plant life will thrive as in the age of the great dinosaurs. This will be godsend for food security.
Extra CO2 is pumped into greenhouses today to boost growth.
H2O is also a greenhouse gas and more abundant at 200000 ppm. without it we would all die.
If trees are cut down from mountain sides, the moist local micro-climates are destroyed and there is reduced precipitation that could available to form snow and ice and so build up glaciers.
Coming in January:
The Debate is ON!
The Great Climate Clash!
Scroll down just past the Monkton part.
This sounds like fun and a good learning tool.
This is what it has always been about. No suprise to me.
Check this out. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article6916648.ece
Oh my God, I’m shocked! What’s new.
So you guys think a poll (which mayor may not have been “leading” or otherwise skewed) really makes any difference regarding the science of this issues, really? All it may show is some opinions that may or may not reflect mass opinion. And since when do our politicians care about our opinions- most Americans want single payer health care and we are not going to get that anytime soon. Meaningless.
Rob, where in the world do you get your info – most Americans do NOT want single payer health care and that is exactly the reason we will NOT get it at ALL!
Yes Mr Hood,
Or perhaps people are capable of making their own informed opinions, without the need of some politburo to tell them what they should be.
Its very telling that you find the whole exercise of opinion polling “meaningless”. Of course in the new Green utopia such tools of democracy will be derservedly consigned to the oblivion of (revised) history, no doubt.
I like the way that you cite the “science” of the issues. When has anything that the GW scare lobby has publicised, ever been based on science? Pray tell!
And what has this to do with Americans wanting single payer health care? For what its worth, I darn well dont.
He get’s it from the DNC. Very simple.
Awe, come on. I want everyone else to pay for my health care or go to jail if they don’t. It’s only fair. How come rich people are the only ones who get health care? I mean, they’re mean. And they stole all of their money from poor people, they don’t deserve it. So lets take it from them.
Everybody wants the government to provide us all with health care. There is no one who is against it except for you scum-sucking-neo-nazi-racist-biggot-homophobe-war mongering-hate filled-global warming denying-knuckle dragging-scotch breath-red face-immigrant hating-womanizing-ignorant-pea brained-pill popping-muslim torturing-stupid-closed minded-goat raping-Republicans.
If you are unfamiliar with me, that last post was me trying to be humorous.
But seriously, I think the drive to control the health care industry is another power grab on par with the drive to control greenhouse gas emissions.
They are both a means to an end. And that end is to control us. To control every aspect of our lives. To limit our activities. What is at stake, what is under assault is our freedom and liberty. Don’t believe me? What do you suppose the govt will do when they control health care? The first thing they will do is to try to limit risk. Doesn’t sound like a big deal? Well it’s actually huge once you realize that everything you do has a certain amount of risk involved with it.
I’m telling you not to be fooled by the spin. This is a huge foot in the door, and that door is your front door.
Totally agreed Neil.
We will not get good health care reform, unfortunately. It would have helped small businesses the most probably… but all you see is conspiracy in EVERYTHING. That is the main problem with you. The conspriacy is what you aren’t seeing, and that is all our politicians bought and paid for by the Military/Insurance/Pharmaceutical/Medical/Big Corp guys (and gals). THAT’S what you cannot see for some reason. And the funny part (if you can call it funny) is that this “conspriacy” is being conducted RIGHT OUT IN THE OPEN FOR ALL TO SEE, WHO HAVE EYES AND AN ACTIVE BRAIN.
There is an era of bad feeling in America, long in the making, but hardly at its nadir. The United States has been on a southward glide path for three decades now, an act of political physics as natural and inevitable as gravity itself, but also deeply exacerbated by the predatory political movement pioneered by Reagan and Thatcher, and continued by Bushes, Blairs, Clintons and Obamas alike.
It was bad enough that we lived for as long as we did at a greedy and unsustainable level, stealing from other peoples, from our environment, from brown and female workers, and even from our own children. But now it’s getting much, much worse.
In twenty years those children are all too likely to be living poor, on a hostile planet, working long hours to pay down the sins of their fathers.
And they might well be enraged, too, as they should be.
A decade or two from now, if they confront their right-wing elders – gazing in anger and astonishment at the bottomless capacity of their parents’ selfishness – you can safely bet that their questions will be met with dissembling deception.
Twenty years from now, regressives will lie to their children.
We know this because those regressives are already lying today, covering their execrable crimes the only way possible.
Stop watching Fox “news”!
A senior lecturer in European politics at the school, fed a steady diet of slanted newsletters about Europe and the European Union â€” either all good news or all bad â€” to 1,200 citizens of six countries over two years.
Over time, Bruter found, and without exception, the readers subconsciously adopted the bias to varying degrees and changed their view of the EU and of themselves as Europeans, a few of them in the extreme. Surprisingly, they didn’t register any change right after the newsletters stopped â€” not until full six months later, when they had obviously let down their guard.
Bruter calls this the “time bomb” effect of one-sided news. His study paints a blunt picture of how cynicism, far from inoculating citizens to resist political persuasion, merely delays the impact.
At least we still have the choice of watching Fox news,
I am sure such miscreants as Bill O’reilly will be up against the wall as soon as your bunch manage to panic themselves into power. And ” one sided” news? Dont make me laugh, some enviromentalists are already clamoring for the “crime” of GW denial to be punished most severely.
What is your problem with Fox? I bet you have never even watched it. Just like you have never listened to Rush Limbaugh. And what is this love fest for Europeans? Who gives a crap about what they do or think? If you love them so much why don’t you go live there? People have been fleeing that part of the world, and every other part of the world for that matter, to come here for 200 years! Why in the world would you want to model anything that they do?
Fox News is a Conservative news outlet. It’s no secret! Get over it. So the Liberals don’t have a monopoly on the news anymore. Boo hoo! If you don’t want to watch it….DON’T. But don’t you dare try to tell me not to watch it. Who do you think you are anyway? “Stop wathcing Fox news” Bite me!
Interesting story. Fox is one cable news network that provides information and views not generally seen on any other major news outlet, though. I think your conclusion is backwards. CBS, NBC, ABC, MSNBC, CNN, and most major metro newspapers are homogenized liberal organs. Fox actually provides balance, but compared to Disney, Time-Warner, NBC/Universal, etc, it’s a drop in the media bucket.
Mark, well said.
It has to be said, I have that awful heart sinking feeling that we are fighting for our Democracy, not the environment. Its interesting to remember just how wonderful a custodian of the environment the old Soviet Union was (LOL). Its amazing to me how many masks seem to be available to these power crazy leftists to hide behind! Lets hope that common sense prevails.
I always appreciate your posts, please keep it up.
Exellent point about the masks! That’s billiant. They got a mask for everything because if they would just come out and say what they really want to do they would be run out of office so fast your head wouldn’t have time to spin. “Oh, we want to save the planet, and clean up the mess that Republicans made, we want to look out for the little guy.” Sounds way better than “we want to scocialize America, redistribute the wealth that you have earned to people who have not earned it, dictate where you can live, what car you can drive, what foods you can eat, and what medical treatment you deserve.”
Thanks Mark. I will, Trust me. Also, I agree. It is not simply climate change. It is our society and how the “extreme left environmentalists” are trying, successfully I must say, to dictate how we live, breathe, eat, sleep etc. As stated previously, we are all stewards of the environment and should continue to be so now and in the future. Common sense must prevail. If not, we will not have the ability to communicate any longer unless we are given “permission.” 1984 all over again.
No Liberals I know of revere the old Soviet Union. You people just make stuff up as you go along, creating your own little ignorant universes. Oh, yes, and let’s use Paul’s “common sense.” Oh, please can we?! Now THAT is scary.
Its probably true to say that there are no “Liberals” left who revere the old Soviets, after all, that State no longer exists. However it seems that our incumbent Socialist, Liberal (western) governments, are Hell-Bent on taking our freedoms using Stalinist lies. I personally cannot see the difference in intention. To set up an elite which will bankrupt us for their own self interests, and use a giant lie to seize emergency powers, in the name of saving the planet. Sounds extreme? Look at the latest posting regarding exactly that kind of scurrilous behavior in a respected UK university!!! The mind really boggles.
People with “Common Sense” would at least READ a 1990 page report before voting on a Health care bill wouldn’t you think!?? What’s scary are elected officials that with their ultimate wisdom because they are “smarter” than you or me will be in control of our destiny. Can you imagine buying a house, car, TV without reading the fine print?? That makes me sick to hear “your party,” not mine, bragging that they don’t have to read what will affect us now and in the future. Must be nice to have an “above everyone else intellect/attitude.” Oh, I forgot. “Repubs” are stupid. right Robby Boy??? If you don’t believe me, ask any college professor! I’ve hear that for 50 years.
Oh, that’s right, Vote for the “looks,” telling you what you want to hear because the average young American under 30 is to occupied with facebook, reality TV etc. Some of the young people that I have recently talked to do not even read up on the issues. They are to occupied not giving a damn and not caring. It’s as if everything will take care of itself. Sorry, but true. I’m on the back nine in my life. The first nine of today’s young people scares me if they don’t wake up! That’s all I have to say about that.
Like all the ones who read the entire Patriot Act before voting for it, right Paul? Come on- stop being so one-sided. We are all lied to no matter where it or who it comes from. But I am sorry- Fox is not legitimate, anyone with any amount of an open-mind can see that plain as day. And the others? Full of propaganda too, just not as blatant or as one-sided. MSM is Liberal? Give me a break. It’s all backed (and owned) by fascists, and until you see that you will remain virtually blind to any kind of reality.
Could climate change be part of a bigger plot? Sure it could, I admit that, and have previously. But to believe it’s all a Liberal/Socialist/Communist plot is false, of course, and simply not logical. Just consider the one fact that Liberals have only been in power for the past year, by any sane measure of things. And chances are they won’t remain so after the next major election (deservedly so in my opinion). So then somehow they have all this magical power and the weak Repubs, Big Business, and Military Industrial Complex is powerless against them? Really? Now THAT is insane thinking.
The liberals were in power when the infamous Bush you call him was in office. Don’t forget that. Or have you? Oh that’s right. Liberals have a short attention span when it comes to facts.
Whatever- the Dems are not really using the power they supposedly have even now. But you are too blind to see that. Besides they are all fascists now anyway. You cannot see that either.
I’m as blind as you Robby Boy. Now that is a lot of dark days.
Again here’s a detailed description of fascism- I think there’s a lot of confusion about it.
In early 1944 the New York Times asked Vice President Wallace to, as Wallace noted, “write a piece answering the following questions: What is a fascist? How many fascists have we? How dangerous are they?”
Vice President Wallace’s answers to those questions were published in The New York Times on April 9, 1944, at the height of the war against the Axis powers of Germany and Japan:
“The really dangerous American fascists,” Wallace wrote, “are not those who are hooked up directly or indirectly with the Axis. The FBI has its finger on those… With a fascist the problem is never how best to present the truth to the public but how best to use the news to deceive the public into giving the fascist and his group more money or more power.”
“American fascism will not be really dangerous,” he added in the next paragraph, “until there is a purposeful coalition among the cartelists, the deliberate poisoners of public information…”
Noting that, “Fascism is a worldwide disease,” Wallace further suggested that fascism’s “greatest threat to the United States will come after the war” and will manifest “within the United States itself.”
In his strongest indictment of the tide of fascism the Vice President of the United States saw rising in America, he added:
“They claim to be super-patriots, but they would destroy every liberty guaranteed by the Constitution. They demand free enterprise, but are the spokesmen for monopoly and vested interest. Their final objective toward which all their deceit is directed is to capture political power so that, using the power of the state and the power of the market simultaneously, they may keep the common man in eternal subjection.”
Finally, Wallace said, “The myth of fascist efficiency has deluded many people. … Democracy, to crush fascism internally, must…develop the ability to keep people fully employed and at the same time balance the budget. It must put human beings first and dollars second. It must appeal to reason and decency and not to violence and deceit. We must not tolerate oppressive government or industrial oligarchy in the form of monopolies and cartels.”
As Wallace’s President, Franklin D. Roosevelt, said when he accepted his party’s renomination in 1936 in Philadelphia:
“…Out of this modern civilization, economic royalists [have] carved new dynasties…. It was natural and perhaps human that the privileged princes of these new economic dynasties, thirsting for power, reached out for control over government itself. They created a new despotism and wrapped it in the robes of legal sanction…. And as a result the average man once more confronts the problem that faced the Minute Man….”
Speaking indirectly of the fascists that Wallace would directly name almost a decade later, Roosevelt brought the issue to its core:
“These economic royalists complain that we seek to overthrow the institutions of America. What they really complain of is that we seek to take away their power.”
Maj-Gen. Smedley Butler USMC, informed him of the “Business Plot” in 1934 by the shadowy group calling itself “The Fraternity.” Made up of some of the richest and most powerful families and corporations in the USA. He was then fired and and matter hushed up and the members of the Cabal were quietly told to forget it.
They have been busy making sure they get it right this time. Since at least 1980 they have been making their obvious moves to wreck the economy and bring us down while the corporations and military get stronger and freer. The mixing of Church and State too has gone on and still is. Take over both allowed parties (done!) get involved with changing the way the country works and stifle any of its proclivities to correct itself (done- make government appear to be the problem not the solution). It still isn’t finished, yet. Once we hit the next Great Depression full on (unless Obama can stop it) they will come to us and say they can do what our now â€œworthlessâ€ government can’t. That will be the end of our Democratic Republic.
Rob, Please get back on point as to why you are here! Your are bugging me with dribble. Climate change is natural. OK??? Prove me, as well as others, that we are wrong.