HR 2454, the “Cap and Tax” bill known as ACES was brought to the floor of the United States House of Representatives today. A 300 page amendment to the over 1,000 page bill was brought forward at 3:09 this morning and a final, official copy of the bill was not available to House members during debate on passage of the bill.
House Republicans repeatedly inquired about the whereabouts of a printed copy of the final bill and were rebuffed by the DFL chair. In short, virtually no one had read the bill being considered for final passage.
Shortly before 6:30 PM CST, a roll call vote on final passage was called. The bill was passed by a vote of 219 – 212. 211 Democrats voted for passage with 43 Democrats voting no. 8 Republicans voted in favor of passage with 168 of them voting no. One Democrat didn’t vote and 2 Republicans didn’t vote.
The cap and trade bill will now move to the U. S. Senate for their consideration. If it passes there, it’s on its way to becoming law by the stroke of President Obama’s pen.
Far more Democrats voted against the bill than Republicans voted for it, which is telling in a broad sense when considered in light of the wishes of the American electorate – most of whom oppose this bill.
One could say that a lack of Republican unity was responsible for the bill’s passage. Had the tiny minority of Republican congressmen who voted in favor of the bill abstained, or voted no, the bill would have failed.
Take Action: The bill’s next stop is the U. S. Senate. Contact your Senator now and urge a ‘No” vote on the Cap and Tax Swindle.
I just threw up a little. In my throat.
I am really ticked off at the media right now. Including Fox news.
Gee, have you heard that Micheal Jackson died? Really? I mean, the Cap and Trade bill being voted on in the House, is just a little more important to the future of this country than the passing of a pop idol. Don’t you think?
Every time I turned on the news it was Micheal Jackson, Micheal Jackson, Micheal Jackson, Micheal Jackson, Micheal Jackson, Micheal Jackson, Micheal Jackson, Micheal Jackson!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I found out about the bill passing the house right here at global climate scam.
I was never a fan of Micheal Jackson, but I do think it is sad that he died at such a young age, and there is some controversy surrounding his death. But in the grand scheme of things, his passing isn’t going to raise my taxes, and the price of just about everything that anyone buys. His passing isn’t going to force the American manufacturing industry to make a great exodus to China and India. His passing will not cause the ruination of America. But the passing of this Cap and Trade swindle bill will.
Granted his death is a big story, but in my opinion it pales in comparison with the passing of this bill. I think the media should be ashamed of itself.
I am ashamed of it.
Yes, Fox let us down on this one. Too much Michael.
So did anyone hear Minority leader Boehner read through the 300+ page ammendment that was added at 3am Friday??? Despite him reading through a large portion of what was contained in that ammendment, it still passed?? What is the matter with people who have a brain in their head b/c when you hear it out loud what is contained hte bill you cant help but realize that Nancy Pelosi and her minnions are not even pretending to have lost it, but are now 1000% out in the open that they have left the reservation and are interested in nothing more than power & money. This thing was nonsensical and illogical. I was under, a now apparently false, assumption our legislators atleast had the ability to formulate an individual thought. Good grief. Democrat/Republican – no matter which way you cut it, this bill was a joke. And it passed. Apparently our government does not care that the ultimate goal here is to blast this country back to the stone ages while giving countries like India & China even MORE of advantage……..
The people voted these idiots in, they will now suffer the consequences. It’s their just reward. I guess “Charisma” beats the facts. Oh well I called my rep., did anyone else? 2010, 2012 cannot come soon enough. Enough said. It’s a sorry day in America.
Paul:
You know I agree with you, those that voted these people in will now suffer. But what about those of us that did not vote for them? It is sad that we have to suffer too. And being able to say “I told you so”, does not make it any better. In fact it’s worse, because we knew this was going to happen.
The only thing that I do take solice in is the fact that many of these lawmakers, wheather they know it or not, have just committed political suicide. 17 months from now, I predict, we will see a turnover in the House and Senate. At least I hope so.
Neil,
Trust me, I wll work on it as hard as I can! Are you in??
Paul:
Yeah, I’ll do what I can. But I really don’t know what I can do. Any suggestions?
There was more going on than the Cap and Trade bill and Farrah Faucett’s death that was overshadowed by the death of the pop icon Micheal Jackson. Look at this:
“Harold Koh was confirmed by the Senate on Wednesday June 24th as the State Department’s Legal Advisor. His transnationalist views promote blending international and domestic law. Indeed, this is particularly scary knowing that he believes traditional sovereignty is obsolete.”
“Friday, the United Nations adopted a 16-page document on the World Financial and Economic Crisis and Its Impact on Development. Not only will it require the U.S. to give .7 GDP to foreign aid, it may demand 845b of U.S. citizens taxpayer dollars to achieve their Millilium Development goals.”
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2009/06/enough_of_the_fluff_already_gi.html
So I thought it was bad. It’s actually much worse!!!!!!
Neil,
To help is called being “active in your beliefs” which I see you are. The only way to defeat these alarmists is to get the VOTE OUT in 2010!!!. Pure and simple. Then do what you say you will do. Follow up, it’s not what you expect it is what you inspect!!! We cannot sit on a computer and argue the merits, or lack thereof. Knock on doors, talk to neighbors, family and freinds. As I have said in the past, wait until they get their bills to pay. All hell will break loss as to “why didn’t you tell me?” More than 80% of the people don’t even know their representatives/Senators, nor their President!! That is sad but true. media coverage in todays age is almost impossible and beyond comprehension if you “disagree with them, and I hate the word, “mainstream media.” Call it what it really is BOHICA , “Bend over here it comes again”! Get Active!!!
Later.
I am now represented by Al Franken! Yea! I think I’m moving. Really, I think I am going to leave this state to the Liberals. It has really become a complete joke. Literally. Al Franken?????????????????????????????
I threw up a little in my throat when the C&T bill passed the House. I am now projectile vomitting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Don’t worry, Stuart Smalley will save you! Get active!
I personally hold the 8 Republicans that voted Yes most responsible.
That is why I am now fundraising for their opponents.
Money is why they voted, and money is what they understand.
Yes, why don’t we elect more B actors (Ronnie Raygun) or even “A list” actors (Arnold the Governator), or failed businessmen (Bush), or Oilmen (Cheney and Bush 1 and 2)…?! That’s worked out great for us, hasn’t it ?? Or how about continually electing career politicians- yeah, that’s a great idea! We don’t want any fresh faces around DC now do we?
Spank,
The people got what they voted for. Next time you vote, Make sure you read what he/she stands for before you make your vote counter. I always find it interesting about Monday Morning Quarterbacks. Sounds like you are a moderate? Later. Enough said.
Oh, Paul, how rude. And to a possible ally. You wing-nuts will continue to destroy yourselves apparently. The sooner the better too.
Rob, I get in trouble for telling it like it is. Maybe more people have to be less PC! Think about it.
It’s not a PC thing is, it’s a common courtesy thing. funny hitng about that- once the right-wing got tired of beig called out for their anti-social tendencies, they starting using the PC thing back onto everyone else, just so they could continue their anti-social ways. But you are simply doing what right-wingers do best. Don’t let me stop you- not that you would. Most right-wingers are so self-righteous they think their crap doesn’t stink. The right-wing is wounded big time now and all they can do is continue to attack, and attack each other too apparently. Again, because that is what they do best. You are truly in the minority now, and will continue to dissipate. Like a cornered animal it makes lashing out a natural compulsion. Only those who’ve matured or can mature into full-functioning “adulthood” will refrain from such basic instincts. Good luck with that.
You still don’t get it. I sense a chip on your shoulder? Work harder, it will come.
I guess you’re right. I will never undertand people like you. Can’t blame a guy for trying though right?
I like your tenacity even though I disagree. All I can say is that you will understand people like me real soon. you and I are consumers/users of energy to keep our famlies warm, and feed them using electricity from coal, nuclear etc. Wait until cap n trade hits us both as well as our children! I firmly believe that when it hits your pocketbook as well as your immediate and close family, you will change your tune. Look at the polls.
“Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. I hope we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our monied corporations which dare already to challenge our government to a trial by strength, and bid defiance to the laws of our country.”
– Thomas Jefferson
Yes, but Rob, what do you think?? Leave Thomas out of the equation. I assume that you have your own thoughts???
I quess not.
Nice come back to your own retort. So now you don’t like T. J. Brilliant.
I like “TJ.” What are “your true thoughts”, or don’t you have any indepent thinking? I doubt not. Sad.
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The upper 1% plutocracy want to control and own everything. They want you to pay them all your money from cradle to grave.
So to get their way, they control America through the K Street lobbyists. The lobbyist buy out our elected representatives and thwart the will of the people.
Trillions of dollars for Wall Street, nada for Main Street.
This perpetual theft from the bottom 99% will only end when WE THE PEOPLE march on Washington, peaceably of course, surround the White House, Congress, Supreme Court and Pentagon, then demand our representatives come out and address our grievance, before we summarily fire them and kick them out of power for good.
Change you really can believe in that doesn’t remain the same will only happen when WE THE PEOPLE stop being we the sheeple, and hold our employees accountable for their mutinous, treasonous behavior.
The two party system is an illusion.
Rob, “We the people” Are The Government! Local, State and National. What do you mean hold our “Employees” responsible? Do you mean the Employer?? For what? Giving you a job??? By the way, cradle to grave is when the government, you and I, holds our hand from birth to death on their turf where you cannot even whisper or “Toot” without their consent. Reminds me of present Germany where you cannot cut down a tree on your own property without the goverment, local, national giving you “permission.” Now that it big brother at it’s finest. Someday I hope that you understand that corporations/LLC’s are not bad. It is the Madoffs et.al, that people remember. We are a republic and you get what you vote for, and we did. Later.
This is what i think,
Do you NOT SEE that the water in the ocean is rising because of all the ice melting in the north and south pole. What do you call that? I call that GLOBAL WARMING!!!!!! The polar bears and losing food and a place to live because of the GLOBAL WARMING!!!!! And polluting is not helping gods creation. Don’t you want to keep it clean? It’s not all about money.
I for one care about the enviorment.
Melissa – Um, no. we don’t see it. Do you? Have you? Do yuo understand that the oceans are not rising and that the north pole still has a huge ice cap and that polar bears are at their largest population levels in decades? You are buying lies. Look deeper than the agenda-driven alarmism. It’s not hard to find the truth.
As stated, people don’t read other than “US” magazine. “People” and reality TV. God be with us! It’s scary reading some of these posts from individuals that do not read both sides really concern me. It is not that anyone is stupid, they just are ignorant not reading/investigating and fly specking all sides. Sad but true.
I knida have to laugh at ppl. greed.. Obama promised he would take from the rich and give to the poor. American’s lapped it up. Hundreds beleived obama was gonna buy their car..house… And what is obama doing..why he’s taking from the poor and giving it to the richest. Ppl we are really in very deep doo doo.I doubt if there’s a way out..too much has been done already.. a train wreck in the making..going right through the very heart of what made america truely beautiful Say goodbye guys! I predict in 2 years you all will be paying 45% in taxes and there is not a darn thing you can do.