Binding agreement not expected in Copenhagen
Administration working towards treaty next year
America refuses to rush into reaching a climate change deal in Denmark
By Suzanne Goldenberg and John Vidal
The US has given up hope of reaching a global climate change treaty at Copenhagen and is working towards a deal late next year, the Obama administration said today. The decision ends hopes of a legally binding deal being sealed next month.
“We have to be honest in the process and deal with the realities that we don’t have time in these four weeks to put the language together and flesh out every crossed t and dotted i of a treaty,” said John Kerry, who chairs the Senate foreign relations committee.
Todd Stern, the state department climate change envoy, agreed. “It doesn’t look like it’s on the cards for December,” he said. “We should make progress towards a political agreement that hits each of the main elements.”
The scaling back of US ambitions follows a growing international consensus that a binding legal agreement on global warming could not be reached at Copenhagen â€“ now just 32 days away. The US shift resets expectations for what will be accomplished at Copenhagen, once billed by the UN as a last chance to avoid catastrophic global warming.
Read the rest of this story at the Guardian.
Editor’s note: The treaty isn’t dead yet, and despite this story, it, or domestic cap and trade laws could still be just around the corner. Remain vigilant. This story (and ones like it) could even be a smokescreen to throw people off guard.
The reason that there is never a comprehensive treaty signed and sealed, is that the powers that be, know that it is a scam. They just want to take advantage of the gullibility of the electorate to make even more massive tax hikes.
If this so called climate bill is passed we will forever loose our US Sovereignty. The Consitution will be gone forever and we will not get it back. I plead with all to contact your Senators and Congressman and demand that this Copenhagen Treaty not be signed. We will not be able to back track after the signing of this treaty. No matter who is elected after Obama(anti America). All countries who sign this treaty will have to let us go. Are you hearing what I am saying. Let us go? We will not be that shining becon on the hill. We will be under control of a ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT. We will not be the ones in control of our own country. We will be distribution of our wealth to all other countries. We will no longer be the super power in the world and protect our people. WE ARE THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. ONE NATION UNDER GOD WITH LIBERITY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. REMEMBER THESE WORDS FOR THEY MAY BE THE LAST ONES WE WILL BE ABLE TO SPEAK IN OUR FREEDOM TODAY.This Copenhagen Treaty will be the complete downfall of this nation. I BEG YOU TO PRAY LIKE YOU HAVE NEVER PRAYED BEFORE. GOD OF ISRAEL AND THE JEWS AND CHRISTIANS IS THE ONLY HOPE WE HAVE TO BEAT THIS MAN WHO CLAIMS TO BE AN AMERICAN. HE IS NOT OBAMA IS A MUSLIM. I HAVE WATCHED VIDEO AFTER VIDEO OF HIS SPEACHES. THEY ARE PRO ISLAM. GOD IS OUR ONLY HOPE. IF THIS NATION WILL TURN FROM THEIR WICKED WAYS AND RETURN BACK TO GOD THEN HE WILL HEAR US AND HEAL OUR LAND. HE IS THE ONLY HOPE. NOT OBAMA. WE MUST STAND UNITED TOGETHER WITH GOD LEADING ALL OUR WAYS.
So if we elect Republicans everything will be alright? That would be sound advice if the Repubs had a much different record than they have IN REALITY. You are naive to believe in them, or the Dems, or this “political system” we currently have. it’s ALL corrupt.
“There is an evil which ought to be guarded against in the indefinite accumulation of property from the capacity of holding it in perpetuity by… corporations. The power of all corporations ought to be limited in this respect. The growing wealth acquired by them never fails to be a source of abuses.” -President James Madison
Nobody is telling you who to vote for. Anyway as unfortunate as it is, you and your views are in the Majority right now. That of course is quite normal when an extremist view is about to hijack society. A good example is Nazi Germany in the 30s. Its sad to see that the majority of people still have little personal defense against the onslaught of A political Ideology which is being expoused by virtually everybody now, as a result of a propaganda campaign by the western Liberal media for the Last 10 years. Unfortunately most people still do believe in what they hear and see from the broadcast industry. Of Course Stalin and Hitler knew this.What is really poisonous is that AGW is all lies. I fear for our futures in the west. But not because the planet is in Danger, people like me are, From people like you Rob.
Bernie Madoff is a choirboy to what the Obama Administration, Geithner, Bernanke, Pelosi, Reid, Schumer, Dodd, Frank, et al. are doing to this country. Bernie Madoff could get a position as Secretary of the Treasury or HHS, or something else, because he would be in perfect company. The only difference between Madoff, Obama and the rest, is that Madoff is in jail, and the others are not–for now.
Paper don’t “Abuse.” People behind the paper may. Look at Madoff. Enough said.
So what’s your point? Wouldn’t better regulations help? The lack of same has caused a lot of the problems we are now facing.
We had regulations. They were not enforced, nor was due diligence done. Enough said.
Again, what is your point, better enforcement? I agree with that, but I also think there was a definite lack of regulations- even Alan Greenspan admitted that.
Many of you still believe in two party politics on a national level. However, the more I study and research what is going on, the more Iâ€™ve come to think that itâ€™s all a farce, a huge donkey and elephant circus, with the leashes to both the donkey and elephant held by the same really rich and powerful corporate, fascist hands that extend in all directions globally these days.
Barak Obama is not a Muslim. He is just a SCAPEGOAT (whether he is well-intentioned or not) who is being used to destroy the remnants of the US civil rights movement and US liberalism (reason and freedom based political thought). First lady, Michelle Obama, was an ambitious member the Chicago political machine that is connected to the powerful Council on Foreign Relations that is also connected to the elitist Trilateral Commission and the worldwide Bilderburger billionaire elitesâ€¦the real, super money elites who really run this nation behind the political scenes.
In my thinking, these guys run an ongoing â€œBad Cop/Good Cop/Bad Copâ€ billion dollar political show for us voters (a cheap price to pay for being able to rule the world with impunity). Bush Co. was the â€œbad copâ€â€¦major outsourcing of jobs (Oh! I know Clinton started it just a little, but Bush Co. opened it completely wide open), and the Federal Reserve and big investment banks and most other banks scammed and vacuuming up US middle class wealth for eight long years, and then also scammed the entire world to gain more power and wealth for themselves, as if they really needed it (but itâ€™s the ultimate gameâ€”gaining ever more power over others). Members of both parties are full of outer circle members of these elitist/corporatists and think tanks and organizations mentioned aboveâ€¦as was HW Bush and the Clintons and GW and now Michelle Obama.
After the Bush Co. â€œBad Copâ€ show, and Hillaryâ€™s failure, they saw a real simple solution. Just put a black man in as the â€œGood Copâ€ President and then let him benignly preside over the decline of the US middle class masses into abject poverty. If successful, they would discredit the US civil rights movement and keep blacks from rising very far in politics for the next hundred years.
So they found Barak Obama through his ambitious, political lawyer wife, Michelle. Obama, an ambitious Harvard academic, was an articulate talker. The conservative elites then literally â€œdroppedâ€ Obama into the race for the presidencyâ€¦almost a â€œshoo inâ€ because Middle America bitterly hated Bush Co. because of job losses and its terrible corruption and arrogant war making.
So now, everything is now moving along nicely toward a really harsh post Obama rule ( a GOP win in 2012) and bitter economic serfdom for the US populace on a scale we Americans have never experienced in our lifetimes and most can scarcely still imagine.
Worldwide, Western corporatism (fascism) will rule the Western world with massive military force and impunity, a â€œNew American Century.â€
Police state rule, as we are already seeing will keep the impoverished masses in line.
Basic human rights will be minimized and compliance to the state rules will be enforced with new electronic devices (tasers and other â€œnon-lethal,â€ pain-causing weapons).
Robby Boy, Go write a book on your blather. Blame Bush after (8) years, conspiracies, corporations etc. (What about Gore/Soros, you never bring them up!) Is that all you have? I know you like to toy with this site for “amusement.” I’m not amused. Climate change is natural. Simple as that. Let the game begin today going forward to 2010!
You’re wrong again- I don’t bring up specific names, really on either side it you cared to notice- not even Bush, usually. I blame both parties, and I am going to vote for a third party from now on probably. In fact, I voted for Ralph Nader in 1994 (is that the right date for the presidential race for Clinton’s re-election? I can’t remember exactly). We need to get the money out of elections and promote other parties, we should at least have four: e.g. Dem, Repub, Libertarian, Green…etc. If we don’t we are doomed.
You must Drive a Corvair??
Paul, just a thought- maybe you should wait until you have something constructive to add before you try and be clever. BTW- I wouldn’t vote for old Ralph now because he has made an ass out of himself over the past several years.
theres no way then wont sign this document. its on the Bible, this is suposed to happen at the end of the times. If anyone thing its a lie, read the Bible, its on the Apocalypse book, theres nothing, NOTHING we can do to avoid this. Most of the important countryes are about to sign up this document, this is going to mark the beginning of the “pursuit churc”, whitch is in the Bible too. If you still dont believe Good, i will let u now, he exists, and now is the time for you to run to His arms…
I’m not being “clever.” hard word to spell by the way. I ask you a specific question that you will not answer. That is, “The involvement or Gore, Soros, GE etc.”. You have yet to address the question. Let me know when you are lucid.