If you needed any more evidence that the entire theory of manmade global warming was a scheme to redistribute wealth you got it Sunday when a leading member of the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change told a German news outlet, “[W]e redistribute de facto the world’s wealth by climate policy.”
Such was originally published by Germany’s NZZ Online Sunday, and reprinted in English by the Global Warming Policy Foundation moments ago
Well now they are just coming right out and admitting that it’s all a sham! It is a money grab to redistribute. Now lets move on to another subject that needs to be eviscerated, illegal aliens deserve in state tuition…so wrong!
There’s still a lot of damage to undo and it’s going to take a while to “deprogram” all the sheeple that bought the lie.
But how can it be a “completed” scam or something to be “undone” when it never really got off the ground, at least not in this country?? The only thing even close to what might be called a done deal is the light bulb thing. Is THAT part of some kind of grand money grab/redistribution of wealth?! Of course not. It doesn’t come close to being significant enough. And don’t give me that grooming for bigger and better things crap, cuz that’s just what that is, crap. So where oh where is the next big green/marxist scare, or even this current one your site is all about. WHERE? (this is a really good question and I sure hope you all don’t dodge it, especially you Dan)
While you all are looking down stage left, the real shady stuff is going on stage right. The oldest trick in the magician’s book. Barnum was right, there is a sucker born every minute.
Wind turbines, cap and trade, CFLs – all things GE stands to profit from. They are all pieces.
So GE is the enemy? I thought Al gore and the Libs and the Greens were… Hmmm, mixed messages from you Dan. A LARGE corporation is the,or one of the, enemies? Welcome to the club, my man!
A corporation, not “corporations.” Corporations are all run by people and as is always the case with people, some are good and honest and others are crooks. GE also controls a huge segment of the MSM and is able to use it to advance their propaganda in hopes of changing public policy for their gain to our collective detriment.
I don’t disagree with your statememt below. It is very refreshing actually coming from the likes of you. My contention remains the same however. The very thing that makes GE undesirable affects all corporations in the end- the way they are devised today. That you cannot see that logic is very unfortunate.
“Deprogramming” is an understatement from what I just observed on the Huffington Report on a Professor ranting against “conservatives.” Was taking a break between work. Check it out and “deprogramming” is mild at best.
Well if you’re not part of the solution, you may just be part of the problem. It doesn’t matter who is doing the stealing, cuz all the elite whether they are conservative or pretending to be something other than that they are the ELITE. The will always do what they do best- help themselves to the world’s resources and screw the rest of us. For example-
The Republicans always use the excuse that we have to give the rich huge tax cuts because they are the “job creators.” Of course, the reality is that giving tax cuts to the rich is the very worst way of getting more money into the economy. The multiplier effect for tax cuts for the wealthy is the lowest of almost any stimulative program the government can try.
Plus, if they are creating jobs, it isn’t here. The money is flowing out of the country and into developing markets at an incredible rate. Between 2002 and 2008, the Bush tax cuts equaled $1.3 trillion. The amount of leaving the United States in the form of investment in developing countries in that same time period — $1.9 trillion. It can be argued that all of the tax cuts to the rich went out of the country and then some (of course, it’s a little more complicated than that but obviously a huge portion of the extra money went into investment abroad).
Hasn’t anyone ever wondered why Republicans are always talking about creating small business jobs(and talk is all they do), but why there is no mention about industrial jobs, about manufacturing jobs, about engineering jobs? Has anyone wondered why the Republicans never mention “research and development”, Is it because the Republicans made it possible to outsource all the factories, the textile mills, the jobs; the real backbone of American ingenuity, American production, America’s middle-class. The other day I picked up a fry pan with a well known American brand, turned it over and discovered it was “made in Indonesia”, while washing clothes I happened to notice the writing on the metal tag in the washer, and discovered another well known brand name came with a “made in Canada” notation and recently noted another well known American name in appliances has closed it’s doors and moved to Mexico. It’s no wonder we are in a deep recession, it’s no wonder unemployment is up—we have no jobs here in America, conservative greed has destroyed the American job Middle-class infrastructure. “Our multi-national corporations are moving on to greener pastures, abandoning Americans to a painful downward economic spiral.”
Products aren’t being manufactured here anymore because big labor has gotten out of control. The pension and benefit legacy costs to companies like GM make it impossible for them to compete in a global marketplace if they manufacture in the US. Taxes on businesses are too high and regulations too burdensome. Naturally, corporations are moving to places with more business-friendly environments. It’s leftist policies, crazy environmental regulations and other insane government policies (like Obamacare) that are causing the exodus! Conservative greed? Get a grip on reality! Conservatives are trying to bring business back to the US. How the [bleep] do you think raising taxes and imposing more government controls on business is going to incent them to create jobs here?!!? Holy [bleep]!
Big Labor doesn’t even exist any more. What a crock Dan. If you beleive that you are VERY VERY out of touch with reality.
You don’t/won’t even consider or be open to any ideas that come from anywhere but your own narrow viewpoint. THAT IS AMERICA’S BIGGEST PROBLEM AT THE THIS MOMENT IN HISTORY. And it will be its demise.
Not Big Labor !!!! Holy cow Dan – thanks for the laugh, really it made me laugh…
OK, Rob – what’s the left’s way to keep jobs in the US, grow our economy and turn back the rise in unemployment?
What’s your plan?
I’ve outlined my ideas many times here. It’s not complicated- it involves us/US becoming more moral (like that one eh?) and more democratic. the rest, as they say will fall into place. Will such a place crate utopia? Of course not. But there is only one course, for us and the rest of the world. We can join others or go it alone, and lead by example. Like we did long ago- only this time we can be even better, without the baggage of slavery and inequality.
Don’t pretend you don’t know what I am talking about, or say I’m not being specific enough. Democracy sells itself and can by itself cure many evils. The Founding Fathers believed that and so do I.
And w/re: to “morality” it’s not enough to pretend to practice it or to believe your side has cornered the market on it- because you haven’t. There’s such as thing as false pride, and so also false morality. So put that in your pipe and smoke it.
The founding fathers abhored your idea of democracy and established a Republic to protect the people from the whims of mob rule. Unfortunately, republics have historically only thrived for a couple hundred years. Seems our time is nearly up. The people have learned how to vote themselves money (thanks, “democracy”) and now we’re screwed.
Democracy is no answer to our economic problems. The answers lie in policies, not philosophies. Mostly, the answers lie in rolling back the failed policies that got us where we are – not adding more layers!
Now this is a very interesting line of conversation, and one I think lies at the heart of the difference betweenpeople like me and you (and your hapless followers). Your elitist notion that democracy is crap is just that- ELITIST !! You have just laid bare your elitist beliefs.
What is it you elitists want? A monarchy? A dictatorship? A plutocracy/oligarchy?
Please tell me- I really want to know.
A constitutional republic.
Looks like the TSA is about to unionize. There’s a lot of due’s payers there. How come Toyota can make money here building cars yet GM or Chrysler can’t? Toyota isn’t unionized. Dan is right! The U.S. is not a friend to business right now and won’t be for the foreseeable future, whether it be labor costs or punitive taxes and over regulation. Hell, property rights are under assault right now. A business that makes a profit is frowned upon and labeled a greedy company. Why would any one start a business today? The EPA, FDA, DNR, city, county, state and federal all take a bite out of the bottom line of all business. Throw in Barry’s band aid box and mandate $8.00 light bulbs, thats a recipe for the Made in Mexico insignia. And ‘OL Rob comes out with conservative greed. LMAO!
Government employees should not be able to form unions and they certainly shouldn’t be allowed to lobby. The whole notion is perverse.
Now I know what you guys are- Elitists. I think I always knew that but it is very clear to me now. What is very odd and sadly funny about it is that you are not part of the Elite and never will be. You just swallow the real Elite’s propaganda and hope that someday magically you will be allowed to join them, and by that I mean be rich, so you can really dump on the people you despise, that is, your own kind, and Liberals especially of course.
And Hal, the last time I checked those light bulbs do not cost $8. Reality to Hal, come in Hal…
Your anti-union religion is irrational and elitist. You are all sad, frustrated, illogical, Elite wanna-be s.
You say that labor unions are hampering American competitiveness, even though the US had absolutely dominated the global economy for decades when unions were the strongest. Progressives responded that the existing laws governing labor relations were fair to both sides, and gave working people a chance for the first time ever to secure a moderate slice of economic justice. But they lost, and unions have been clobbered ever since, especially under St. Ronnie Raygun. The share of the US workforce protected by organized labor has shrunk from about one-third to less than ten percent, and people’s incomes not surprisingly reflect that. This week, the New York Times reports that it is getting worse still: “Organized labor appears to be losing in this Great Recession. Even at manufacturing companies that are profitable, union workers are reluctantly agreeing to tiered contracts that create two levels of pay. In years past, two-tiered systems were used to drive down costs in hard times, but mainly at companies already in trouble. And those arrangements, at the insistence of the unions, were designed, in most cases, to expire in a few years. Now, the managers of some marquee companies are aiming to make this concession permanent. If they are successful, their contracts could become blueprints for other companies in other cities, extending a wage system that would be a startling retreat for labor.”
So now what does the Elitist Right do? They target the last labor strong-hold: Public employees. The Elitists will not rest until this country is under a serfdom-like system, and they have brain-washed a solid third of the country to back them no matter what.
Get the Republican message? Kill all programs desperately required (for survival) by middle and lower class Americans as the solution, and make sure the rich get richer.
The Republican/right wing leadership agenda for the United States of America is quite clear to anyone with eyes to see, ears to hear, or an IQ extending into triple digits. Nations, including this one, are no longer important to them, nor are most of the vast populations. Whatâ€™s important is the corporate takeover of the world, nation by nation. What need hath one for their eternal soul, when they can be rich and powerful in this short present lifetime?
Itâ€™s not such a bad idea to eventually realize a world government of nation states ruled by a responsible entity, but that entity had better be one that benevolently represents the best interests of all the individuals of the world, not just the bottom line of those powerful few who care only for money and power, and at the expense of the welfare of their fellow human beings. There is no real future for our race, unless it is based on caring, not abusing.
I believe the despicable event in Dallas those many years ago was a pivotal move in this war against â€œThe People.â€ Get rid of a president who not only enjoyed an extremely huge base of popularity throughout the nation, but one who would have taken us out of Vietnam before it really got started, thus depriving the new corporate Military Industrial Complex of hundreds of billions, eventually trillions, of dollars in blood money, and securing the concept of â€œwar for profitâ€ (nothing new to the world) for the next century or more. (For starters)
I do believe America is at war, but not really with Al Qaeda and radical Muslim extremists, or even other nations â€“ this is the masquerade (those people are being manipulated as well). The real enemies are â€œthe powersâ€ behind most of the large corporations, and the unconscionable lobbyists and political whores they own — those caring little or nothing for the suffering of the little people, and only interested in the corporate bottom line. They purposely incite the people to fear, anger and hatred because it divides them. This is the â€œEvilâ€ so many fear in the world, but with a face they havenâ€™t wanted to acknowledge. For what is evil after all, if not the unconscionable and purposeful will to harm others for personal gain!
About author Stephen Rose writes a political blog for the Paradise Post Newspaper in Northern California
The middle class need no “programs.” Just leave is alone and we’ll be just fine, thank you.
Really? Does the middle class need free education? Do we need Police and Fire Departments? What about clean water for our children to drink, and lead-free/arsnic-free playgorunds to play in? How about access to affordable health care? Do we need that? How about food that is not going to kill or render us brain-dead?
I could go on. But you get the idea. You are just another hypocritical and/or heartless Libertarian.
Actually I don’t think we do need “free” education. I’d be OK with a tax credit system by which you can pick any public or private school to educate your kids. The government monopoly on “free” education is a disaster. Kids are getting dumber and dumber. Test scores on fundamentals are crashing, high school graduates have no clue about history and we’re spending record levels that keep rising with results that keep falling. Meanwhile, private education costs are lower and produce better results. Police, Fire? Legitimate functions of government and we pay for them with our property tax. Health care? It WAS afordable – before the government started meddling with HMOs and Medicare. Average families used to be able to afford HOUSE CALLS. Only celebrities with money like Michael Jackson could afford that service today. Get government out of health care let the market work and prices will fall thourgh nomal market forces. Just look at the price of veterinary medicine or cosmetic surgery compared to standard, managed health care costs.
As I said, leave us alone and we’ll be fine. The more the government has meddled, the worse things have progressively become until now the whole damn world is on the brink of total economic collapse and government bankruptcy. Communists and their assorted useful idiots have brought us to this point. Communist leaders want power (and riches) and the useful idiots think they’re going to get something for nothing as we all decend into “equalized” poverty. No thanks!
Dan- all the problems you list are attributed to “Liberal” policy, when in actuality most are the result of Neo-Liberal policy. You yourself are a Neo-Liberal, and fear not these two political categories are basically mutually exclusive- they simply share the word liberal, they are very different things. You need to study this more, I think, and stop blaming Liberals for something they haven’t done. You could even say, quite accurately I believe, that Liberals are the victim of Neo-Liberalism. True Liberalism in this country is effectively dead and gone. The same could be said for true Conservatism. The Neo-Liberals rule this country and the world more or less. And you are one of them (politically).
I didn’t say liberals. I said communists. And as to “Neo-liberals” – I’d have to disagree. I’d say that I’m better defined as a classical liberal, which is where modern conservatism now exists.
The battle largely comes down to populists vs. statists these days. It’s the people vs. their government. There are statists on both sides of the aisle and all must be defeated. There are fewer on the right these days, though, because populism has swept through the GOP.
Example of our problem. Had lunch with a client. Cost to my client with their staff in the U.S is $4.00 per call to customer (They are Union). Out-sourced to a third party in the U. S. is $2.28 per call through a call center, non-union. To go through India it is .75 cents per call. Wonder why we have a problem Robbie Boy??? Unions and I drive GM! Love the SUV but, darn, they quit making the one I drive. Wasn’t P/C! The bane of our independence!
Thank you for the garbled message… or not.
India has pretty strict OSHA requirements also, right Paul? Not saying some worker protections aren’t a good idea in SOME cases, but we don’t need to hold employees hands to ensure they get a bathroom break. Also a minimum wage that gets jacked up every 2 years to help the unions hurts small as well as large business. Yep, definitely conservative greed!
You and yours are all blind to reality. The facts and statistics don’t lie (unionizatioin, the rise of living standards, etc.) . Am I saying it is an easy issue/problem? Not at all. But your dumbed down analyses are more or less propaganda and lies.
Conservative greed or global reality? Think about it. We are no longer competitive in a global economy. Very simple be you conservative, liberal or independent. They all do it. Trust me they are not all conservatives. Look at GE?
GE is NOT run by conservatives, for conservatives?! Really Paul? Do you really expect anyone to believe that? Do you believe that?
“Abstract: Recent experimental works demonstrated that the Anthropogenic Global Warming (AGW) hypothesis, embodied in a series of Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) global climate models, is erroneous. These works prove that atmospheric carbon dioxide contributes only very moderately to the observed warming, and that there is no climatic catastrophe in the making, independent on whether or not carbon dioxide emissions will be reduced. In view of these developments, we discuss climate predictions for the XXIst century. Based on the solar activity tendencies, a new Little Ice Age is predicted by the middle of this century, with significantly lower global temperatures. We also show that IPCC climate models can’t produce any information regarding future climate, due to essential physical phenomena lacking in those, and that the current budget deficit in many EU countries is mainly caused by the policies promoting renewable energies and other AGW-motivated measures.”
Thank you Neil, Reality still exists on this site. Always said and always will say, climate change is “natural.” Cold this year, warm next year no matter what “models” say in a vacuum. Does man have influence? Possibly. Do Deer? yes. It’s nature at it’s best. Have two more tags to go. Then back to uncivilzed society. At least in the wilderness I feel more civil!
Good luck on getting those four legged carbon dioxide emitting antler types! Save the planet for us Paul! Seriously! I wish you luck!
Got four. (Herd control unit) Four less flatulating deer causing our warming. I can hear PETA now. “People Eating Tasty Animals.” They will take me and someone at a food shelf through the year. “Good Eating.”
4 deer will feed who for how long? Delusion, Paul is thy name. I’m not anti-hunting, just anti-delusion.
Oh wait- “thru the year.” I get it now- thru 2010. Even that is pretty delusional. Delusions of Granduer ?
Now your acting like my six year old son, Rob. Just saying…
I can tell he doesn’t like good healthy meat. Possibly a grease spoon for Robbie Boy? I harvest my own and yes, it will last me until Noveember of 2011. Excellent on the grill/oven all year. One deer will feed a family of four for almost one year. Where’s your donation Boy? Big Mac half eaten for a food shelf???
Please stop calling “rob” “boy.”
Remember – issues, not personalities!
Now you tell him that? Well, thanks, I guess. And Paul, my point was that you were exaggerating, that’s all. Which you were and still are. Your deer will feed you and your family for a whole year? So you will be eating nothing else? That is exaggeration and that is what I called you out on. I am simply holding you and the others here accountable for what they say. You all do the same to me- I would think less of you if you did. Are you always correct in “outing” me. Hardly ever. But it is your right to try.
And as I mentioned a LONG time ago, for all you know I am Black and the “Boy” jabs would be considered very hurtful. And also Racist- and that is why Dan finally stepped in, a little to late by the way. FYI- lucky for all of us, I am not Black.
Still lame considering I’m 48 years old.
Rob you keep insisting your 48 years old. I find that hard to believe. Your posts have the rationing of a sophomore in high school. BUT! I won’t pick on you for that. I want to know how long you think a whole pig, or a half-cow would feed a normal family of four? Eating three meals of it a week. I can tell you it’s a lot longer then you think. Now, I give money to the food shelf normally. I just can’t part with food. No, I am not a 350 pound behemoth, I’m 6’1″ and 195lbs. We have a large freezer in the garage and stock it with pig and cow. It lasts quite a while!
Stick with reality- we weren’t talking about a pig or a cow. Correct? Correct. And I feel the same as you- you people sound like spoiled children to me- so it’s all relative, huh?
Dan, sorry, no offense intended. I call a young male child a “Boy”. My hunting partner is black and he takes no offense when I say, ” Boy, that was a nice shot!” He and I are apparently not politically correct, simply good friends and hunting partners. As to deer meat, venison, an average deer will produce approximately 30-40 pounds. I assume R Hood eats more than that pound wise in one month. Oh well, must be all city dwellers on this site and nobody goes outside or harvests their own food any longer. Grocery stores are I assume an easier place to harvest. Enjoy your high fructose corn syrup. I won’t. Back to my salmon dinner tonight.
Cherish what you harvested to eat and say your prayer before, not after. Happy Thanksgiving!
You are so superior. Must be nice. Your other example of using the word Boy is irrelevant, completely other context but no matter. It seems that the Right has trouble with the concept of context, among other issues of complexity.
Sorry “Sir Hood”, I deal with “Reality” on a daily basis and it isn’t pretty. I don’t lead a sheltered life.
Maybe not sheltered but you are certainly elitist, by many standards, especially if you include the way the majority of the rest of the world’s people live. And oddly, or perhaps not, you feel threatened and selfish, rather than satisfied. I suppose it makes sense. But not under Christian teaching, especially that which came from Jesus.
Wow Rob! Way to stick with the issue’s! I think Paul touched a nerve of yours. Maybe his dig on PETA? Ol’ Rob is a PETA guy! So your into animals huh? Well anything but people I guess. Don’t want to make the Head POOBAAH of PETA angry. He might throw red paint on your green bike.
That isn’t the case, obviously. Why do you feel the need to twist things around? I am honest about most things here if not all- except my real name. I am not a PETA member- and I love eating meat. Oh gosh, and if I was a PETA member?! Oh my oh my wouldn’t you guys just loooove that, huh? More cliches and stereotypical jokes etc. Sorry to disappoint such childish wishes.
I do admire what PETA is about, although don’t always agree with their methods or every cause they champion.
I twist things? That’s like Leslie Neilson calling me dead! That and I do not admire PETA, I only pause at the ads.
You twisted by making up stuff about me, as if it’s true. You guys do it all the time. I guess you have to since you rarely address things directly, especially conventional wisdom or facts. Perhaps you were trying to be funny, but you were also trying to dismiss me in your usual way, ie. ad hominen remarks and superficiality.
Stop Guys Rob is not in PETA. How dare you use his tactics against him. It is not fair and I wont stand for it. From now on Sir Hood is the only one that can use ad hominen remarks and superficiality. Someone please get him a tissue my screen is getting wet.
Those were never my main tactics, like it has been against me. Do I call a spade a spade? Indeed. But never just out of that lack of having something meaningful and worthwhile to add.
For example- I haven’t questioned Jerk’s claim that he was a “FDO.” Or try to make that type of job less than what it may actually be, such as saying it probably is a glorified deliveryman position. Also notice I didn’t just say Delivery boy which is something another person would say and actually has said against me. So you see… and this is just one or two examples, why you are hypocritical, and less than honest when you paint me with the same brush you yourselves are painted/tainted with.
Hey Rob…. You did question what a FDO was and I spent time answering that question… Also be careful. This site is on the World Wide Web. If you were to say “I call a spade a spade” down here in the south there is about 33% of the population of the south that would jump you for being a raciest and would not care what the context of the conversation was. You see that is the difference between Book Smart and Street Smart. The combination of the two is wisdom.
Oh BTW in this thread you referenced Jesus. Please be sure you have a relationship with him before you evoke his name. His standard is one that none of us can meet. His death paid or debt for all of us falling short of that standard. It is not wise to “throw” his name around.
Thank you Sir Knot, We need that at this time of year. “Merry Christmas.”
Oh wow. Where to start with Jerk’s lecture..?! Let me try to keep it short and simple. I only know not to take the Lord’s name vain. Since I did not, then who are you to reserve the right to bring Him up, and for whom? The most rightous? And let me guess- you are on that short list, eh? I know you enjoy saying NONE of us is worthy, etc. but it sure seems to me that you feel you know Him better than others do and even enough to correct others who highlight some of His most basic teachings. It sure must be nice… being on a first name basis with Him and feeling capable of chastising others who you deem not up to snuff. I would say that it might be you who needs to step more carefully…
Oh, and also thanks for the political correctness lesson. Coming from a Righty that is simply precious.
I would strongly suggest that you look into yourself. That’s all I have to say. You sound like a lost child. Not being demeaning whatsover, just my observation. Think about it.