57 Responses to M4GW: The Hottest Year Since 1863

  1. Rob N. Hood February 7, 2011 at 12:51 pm #

    Many of us experience anxious, inner turmoil when our beliefs are directly challenged by opposing ideas and beliefs (or, even more distressing, by facts). The emotional impact might be, “Who am I, who will I be, without my beliefs?”

    Some individuals can feel a frightening cognitive dissonance, like a lost soul in existential panic, when confronted with facts that do not correspond with their belief system. To avoid this fear, they refuse unconsciously to assimilate the facts into their intelligence.

    The healthier we are psychologically, the less likely we are to base our sense of self on a set of beliefs. Instead, we “know” ourselves and are comfortable with ourselves through human virtues such as integrity, honesty, empathy, courage, and a passion for truth. These virtues are not beliefs we hold but assets we embody.

    • NEIL F. AGWD/BSD February 7, 2011 at 9:05 pm #


      • Rob N. Hood February 8, 2011 at 11:44 am #

        Who made you the blog police? Oh, you did…

        • NEIL F. AGWD/BSD February 8, 2011 at 11:02 pm #

          I think your posts are irrelevent. I have just as much right to say your posts are irrelevent, as you do to post the leftist propaganda that you do. I am just voicing my opinion, just like you are. You got a problem with that? Too bad.

          • Rob N. Hood February 9, 2011 at 7:25 am #

            It’s just that instead of dealing with specifics and actual debate using reason and logic you use a “talk to the hand” maneuver that is ultimately nothing but a lame cop-out. Plus… Dan is the blog police here. You can stamp your feet and hold your breath all you want. We still have those freedoms…

          • NEIL F. AGWD/BSD February 9, 2011 at 7:18 pm #

            Dooh N’ Bor, what effect does changing the subject have? You say I’m avoiding dealing with specifics, and actual debate, but you are the one who keeps changing the subject!!! It is infuriating to say the least!! I’m all for specifics, and actual debate of the topics that are specifically posted on this site by Dan, not to go off on the tangents you veer off on. You are the one that is out of place here, not me. I mean come on, how better to avoid a debate about specifics than to change the subject? Resol.

          • Rob N. Hood February 17, 2011 at 1:43 pm #

            To Neil’s response below. You use another long winded excuse that doesn’t explain why you don’t really debate in the normal sense of that activity. I can’t help it if that is your usual response. The fact that I offer a wider variety of subjects has nothing to do with me trying to change the subject. It is me who does most of the follow up in answering questions and/or normal debating activity. It is you, and others here, who usually do not. It’s your right not to do so, but don’t come a huntin’ the messenger because of your actions, or lack thereof.

          • Rob N. Hood February 17, 2011 at 1:45 pm #

            above… whatever, dang that’s frustrating

  2. Dan McGrath February 7, 2011 at 7:34 pm #

    OK, but how’d you like the video?

    • NEIL F. AGWD/BSD February 7, 2011 at 10:03 pm #

      Hey Dan. Rob asked me if he’s so irrelevent why you don’t block him. I think I know the answer but I’d like to hear the reason from you, to see how close I am to what I think you would say.

      • Dan McGrath February 7, 2011 at 11:51 pm #

        There are actually a lot of reasons. First, I believe in robust debate. It’s what the founders intended by making free speech Amendment Numero Uno. It’s always good to test your beliefs; from arguments sometimes spring understanding; arguing with the opposition hones your skills; I believe in transparancy. Stifling opposition is the hallmark of someone who’s wrong – if your arguments don’t stand to scrutiny and you have to resort to censorship, you should reevaluate your position; confronting opposing views can reveal alot; the truth will eventually prevail; finally, sometimes it’s amusing.

        • NEIL F. AGWD/BSD February 8, 2011 at 7:00 am #

          Ok. Not exactly what I thought you’d say, but I did get the freedom of speech part right.

          • Jerk A. Knot February 8, 2011 at 2:07 pm #

            I agree with Dan… let him rant. He has a right to do so. I will also defend your right to call him or me irrelevant.

  3. paul wenum February 7, 2011 at 8:16 pm #

    Loved it! Played it twice! Good job.

  4. Not Rob N. da Hood February 7, 2011 at 9:03 pm #

    OK I thought it was pretty good they caught onto a phrase again and ran with it, and played at a level to reach many. the claim that 2010 was the hottest year is sadly realistic if you trust the methods they use of gathering data in the oceans. where the OCEANS were the hottest since satellite DATA came out, but the land was not but the oceans cover 2/3 of the earth Approx. Again this follows solar activity which is diminishing and I heavily question the accuracy of their data gathering and whether you believe in a young or old earth 30+ years is hardly a valid sample of anything…

  5. Rob N. Hood February 8, 2011 at 7:39 am #

    The World IS insane. There is no reason that guides behavior. It is like Europe after WWI where hopelessness was replaced in Europe by Fasicism, in USSR by Totalitarianism, and in America by Rampant Materialism, and in Japan by Militarism.

    It may be worse than that. At least after WWI there was a sense of decency, equality, justice, thus hope. Hope in the system, our system.

    If you need any more proof that it is all about gobs of Money/Power, look no further than our esteemed legislators who pretend we are a Republic, all the while taking bribes to secure their prestige, entry into the Plutocracy, and admission to a surrealistic world where Appearance has become Reality with Substance/Honesty/Integrity/Truth having morphed into the sewage of Right Wing/Fascist Thought.

    And, the denizens of the Good Ole USA have bought it all, just like lottery ticket purchasers, who only care about hitting it big and will blow thousands of dollars every year for a possible connection to one of the last ways to make it out of this mess. The American Dream has turned into a fantasy of devilish proportions where morons have inherited the Earth.

    The Great Collapse is coming and there is nothing that We the People can seem to do to stop it.

    • Jerk A. Knot February 8, 2011 at 2:04 pm #

      You have I right in this thesis is that the “we the people” you belong to are the minority so therefore you can not stop it. Unless you change the paradigm to one where minority rules. I will concede that the “we the people” I am in is also a minority. That is why the “center” position is so valuable. It is also the position that is most catered to. The “center” shifts with the wind.
      Oh by the way Right Wing is not synonymous to Fascist. Unlike Left wing is to socialist or communist.

    • NEIL F. AGWD/BSD February 8, 2011 at 8:24 pm #

      Rob, is there a country that you don’t hate?

  6. Rob N. Hood February 8, 2011 at 3:38 pm #

    Wow… among other more minor oddities in your post above Jerk, your final statement is flat out wrong, and completely illogical. The other major issue I have with your post, other than the rambling incoherence, is the “shifting in the wind of the center position.” It has been shifting to the Right, and the Right only, for 30 plus years. It, the “center”, has shifted so much to the right and so consistently to the right and so gradually, it is almost un-noticed by most people. The frog in the heating water scenario. Add to this HUGE amounts of media propaganda from all media, and here we are… the end of the American experiment. However, that said, the “center” of the average American person, minus the political propaganda we find ourselves dealing with every day, is surprisingly Left. Poll after poll has the average American wanting otherwise seemingly Liberal policies. This FACT is hidden usually or not reported on. And that is why I say I am more “mainstream” or “center” than you radicals are.

    • NEIL F. AGWD/BSD February 8, 2011 at 7:48 pm #

      IRRELEVENT!!!! If I am a radical, and you are centrist, then Dan is a Boston Cream Pie! IRRELEVENT!!!!!!

    • Jerk A. Knot February 9, 2011 at 10:04 pm #

      HA HA HA you are a great comedian…

  7. paul wenum February 8, 2011 at 6:13 pm #

    My God I’m sure glad I’m not “Mainsteam or Center!”

  8. NEIL F. AGWD/BSD February 8, 2011 at 9:20 pm #

    “According to US Navy PIPS2 maps, the area of thick Arctic ice has more than doubled, and the volume of Arctic ice has increased by 26% – since 2008.”

  9. paul wenum February 8, 2011 at 10:53 pm #

    Thanks Neil, we needed that, or at least I did as well as some others. Kudo’s!

  10. paul wenum February 9, 2011 at 12:31 am #

    I agree with Dan’s 2/7/2011 post. The day you stifle discourse, right,wrong or indifferent is when we have a major problem. If we all agree, you may as well go home and be a lemming and jump off the cliff. That said, there are some comments here that want you to! Again, difference of opinion is critical to our republic. the day they attempt to shut my comments down not posting my personal thoughts is when we will have a problem. Look at the middle east. Any good internet lately? Can we talk to our neighbors? Yes. Don’t wish to lose that right do we?

  11. Rob N. Hood February 9, 2011 at 10:59 am #

    The freedom to talk to neighbors is the first item on the Socialist/Communist list of forbidden actions. Funny how Paul is able to tap into our secret plans and ideas. Scary even…

  12. Dan McGrath February 9, 2011 at 12:13 pm #

    M4GW has released a follow-up video they’re calling a “bonus track:” Propane, Methane, Rogaine. I guess it was a two-fer at M4GW World Headquarters when they shot “The Hottest Year Since 1863.” Childish humor, but a pretty well done parody.


    • Not Rob N. da Hood February 9, 2011 at 10:35 pm #

      Hey if you say it stunk its a compliment!

      • Dan McGrath February 10, 2011 at 11:13 am #

        Very droll.

  13. paul wenum February 9, 2011 at 7:13 pm #

    Loved it! reminded me of “The Yuppers” from the UP of Michigan. My brothers will love it. A little levity is a wonderful thing. Thanks Dan!

  14. Rob N. Hood February 10, 2011 at 8:52 am #

    As can been seen by most rational people, the beliefs of radical right wing Pseudo-Christians are not based upon any real interpretations of the Gospel, but on hate, greed, materialism, selfishness, and especially on the foundational inspiration of all of their beliefs, the mother lode and ultimate source of all of right wing extremism (including fascism, the end result of right wing extremism): elitism. Like all right-wing extremists, there is nothing but hate and derision for those who dare impose morality on them. They just want to live a life of criminality and greed free from the judgment of ANY of the major systems of ethics or morality, but especially from those of Judeo/Islamic/Christianity, which judge their actions most harshly. So, in typical pre-emptive retaliation, they INVENT a religion that does not judge them as criminal deviant dirtbags, whether by perverting an already existing religion, or by pulling a non-existent one out of their collective asses like Nietzsche and the Nazis did.

    The central themes of Judeo-Christianity: equal and fair treatment of all human beings, anti-greed, anti-materialism, anti-hedonism, and that all are equally held to the same law, same moral and ethical code, with no one, not even royalty, above them; make it a deadly enemy of all that the mergers of government and corporatism (fascism) hold dear. The new corporate morality seeks to eliminate the old Abrahamic morality. A new morality accepting of the actions of Hegemons is required. You know, a morality that over-looks little things like war crime, genocide, mass murder, bribery, larceny, etc., when the superior hegemon does them. If you or I do them, of course, that is a different matter. Before the new morality can be accepted, the old morality must be rejected. Corporate controlled Christianity is Christianity eliminated.

    THIS is the Beast we should all be attacking.

  15. paul wenum February 10, 2011 at 6:57 pm #

    Whatever. And your point is what? Cut to the chase. I assume your not christian? You assume we are all “Pseudo-Christians?” Boy, do I sense the feeling of envy or should I say entitlement. Which is it?, or is it both?

  16. Rob N. Hood February 11, 2011 at 6:11 am #

    The point, my unintentially and conistently ironic friend, was made in the last sentence, just to be sure you wouldn’t miss it. But you did anyway. BTW, the definition for a psuedo-Christian is simple: Those that vote for or otherwise support war (any war in my opinion), the death penalty, and torture, for any reason. There are many other “lesser” descriptors for the psuedo-Christian, but these are sufficient and could stand alone quite well without anything added.

    • NEIL F. AGWD/BSD February 11, 2011 at 6:47 am #

      So we should not go to war with a**holes who do things like this?

      NEW DELHI, INDIA (BosNewsLife)– Suspected Islamic militants have killed two Christian teenagers who were reading the Bible in the disputed Kashmir valley, divided between India and Muslim Pakistan, BosNewsLife established Tuesday, January 8.

      The victims were identified as Arifa, 17, and Akthar, 19, the daughters of Gulam Nabi Dar, said local missionary Mercy Ciniraj, who knew them well. “The [murdered] girls were believers and used to read the Bible through underground ministries.”

      She told BosNewsLife that “the girls were shot dead” last Monday, January 31, in the Baramulla area in Indian-controlled northern Kashmir, bordering Pakistan.

      They were “brutally murdered” by at least three fighters of Lashkar-e-Taiba, a Pakistan based Islamic militant “terrorist” group, she explained. Local police reportedly said in statements that they found two bodies near their home and that militants were to blame.

      Lashkar-e-Taiba, or the ‘Army of the Righteous’, seeks to introduce an Islamic state in South Asia and to “liberate” Muslims in Indian-controlled Kashmir.

      India has identified the group as the alleged masterminds behind the the 2008 terror attack on the Indian financial capital of Mumbai that killed 166 people.

      The killings of Arifa and Akthar show that militant attacks also include targetting devoted minority Christians, Ciniraj suggested.

      The girls’ involvement in Bible reading was among several projects of mission group Salem Voice Ministries (SVM), which supports evangelism and aid among Muslims and Hindus in India, including through underground house churches in Muslim-majority Kashmir.

    • Rob N. Hood February 11, 2011 at 2:21 pm #

      typo- “unintentionally” was the word I wanted above…

  17. Rob N. Hood February 11, 2011 at 2:20 pm #

    You’re right, we shouldn’t. Do you realize the inanity, not to mention insanity, to suggest starting a war over such a thing? If we did we’d be fighting at least 10,000 wars right this minute. You people on the Right make me shudder with intense fear.

  18. NEIL F. AGWD/BSD February 11, 2011 at 9:41 pm #

    Peace and love are great. But unfortunately, in the real world there are people who want to kill everyone who does not believe what they believe. What if those two girls who were murdered for reading the Bible were your kids? Would you feel the same way? Would you want to sit down with the murderers and exchange ideas, and debate the pros and cons of killing little girls for reading a bible? Or would you want them arrested and thrown in prison? But what if they were out of reach of your law, or reasoning? What do you do? Just let it go? Pretend like it didn’t happen? Forgive them?
    No. That is not realistic. When you have such people who are murdering innocent people you kill them.. with extreme prejudice. If you don’t, sooner or later they will come around to kill you, or people that you love or associate with. If you want to live in peace with them, be ready to live in a peace where the terms of that peace are dictated by them. Your choices will be assimilate, or die. Where my choices will be assimilate, die, or kill them first! Toidi……

  19. paul wenum February 11, 2011 at 11:03 pm #

    I doubt Rob could sit down with any person of this type and have a rational discussion. Would love to see him walk in my nephews shoes for a month as he goes to the hot spots you outline Neil. Believe he would have a better understanding of life as it exists. Books, articles, blogs are fine. Experiencing it is quite different. Similiar to going to a Hell’s Angel biker bar from a McDonald’s. It is an eye opener.

  20. Rob N. Hood February 12, 2011 at 4:24 pm #

    Neil, do you include yourself in the category of those people in your first sentence above? Sure sounds like it to me. WWJD? Start a war? Ummmm……. no I don’t think so. I think He talked a lot about forgiveness or am I wrong about that?? W started the war in Iraq because “they tried to kill my Dad.” Was it worth it? Guess we should ask him. One million dead for an attempt on his Dad’s life?? Really? You people are like aliens from another planet with no human common sense or morality. Or maybe it’s people like me who are from somewhere else where logic, reason, morality, etc. actuall mean something other than what’ in it for me, and how much revenge can I muster? Sad how little humans have progressed in the past 200 years or so.

    Paul… your hot air is so lame, I can’t even express how much. Armchair warriors disgust me.

  21. paul wenum February 12, 2011 at 8:28 pm #

    “Armchair” complainers about everything and pointing fingers at everyone excluding themselves are worst. For your finger pointing at me there are three pointing back at you. My hot air is fact not fiction. It is reality, something you seem to have no knowledge of and your posts make that quite clear.

  22. Rob N. Hood February 13, 2011 at 2:03 pm #

    Defensive are we General Lazyboy?

  23. paul wenum February 14, 2011 at 8:07 pm #

    You are your own enemy and you do not see it. Most don’t.

  24. Rob N. Hood February 15, 2011 at 8:08 am #

    Right back atcha.

  25. Rob N. Hood February 16, 2011 at 2:50 pm #

    “Corporations have been enthroned and an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until all wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the Republic is destroyed.” – Abraham Lincoln

    This grim vision caused Lincoln to “tremble for the safety of my country,” as he wrote on November 21, 1864. It foretold of Plutocracy (rule by the wealthy) in America.

    Today, we watch his vision coming true: the richest 1 percent of Americans now take home 24 percent of U.S. income, up from 9 percent in 1976. [America’s wealth is “aggregating in a few hands” right before our eyes, in plain view.

    And we stare uncomprehendingly, like deer in the headlights.

    Perhaps our inertness is understandable. For nearly 150 years since Lincoln’s awful premonition, who has worried about Plutocracy? The last time greedy corporations threatened our country, President Teddy Roosevelt’s trust-busting broke up their monopolies quite handily.

    Since then, Plutocracy disappeared from America’s headlines. Until recently. We are now slowly waking up to the tsunami of money drowning democracy. But we’re a bit late. We’ve slept through an epochal shift in American politics: the Plutocrats (huge corporations, Wall Street, and billionaire oligarchs) have been quietly busy, hijacking the Republican Party.

    Let me be clear. We are not talking here about mere corruption — the random bribery by which businesses and wealthy individuals have always tried to influence government officials in all societies. Plutocracy means governance by the wealthy. This is the story of how modern Plutocrats have converted the power of money into the control of government.

    They did it by gradually hijacking the Republican Party – its ideology, political agenda, and legislation. Their payoff is already in the trillions of dollars.

    Unfortunately for all of us, the same can pretty much be said of the Democratic party as well.

  26. paul wenum February 16, 2011 at 10:22 pm #

    What’s there to say. You hate conservatives pure and simple. Don’t have to post a two page hate statement do we?

    • Rob N. Hood February 17, 2011 at 3:38 pm #

      Ummm, I guess you missed the part where I inlcude the Democratic party too…?! See that? Yes? No? Need reading glasses??? Yes..?

  27. Rob N. Hood February 17, 2011 at 7:24 am #

    Sorry, I thought you supported free speech. How ’bout this little nugget I found in the news? It should warm the cockles of your right-wing hearts:

    A law under consideration in South Dakota would expand the definition of “justifiable homicide” to include killings that are intended to prevent harm to a fetus—a move that could apparently make it legal to kill doctors who perform abortions. The Republican-backed legislation, House Bill 1171, has passed out of committee on a nine-to-three party-line vote, and is expected to face a floor vote in the state’s GOP-dominated House of Representatives soon.

  28. Rob N. Hood February 17, 2011 at 1:51 pm #

    The fascists keep on marching us towards a Right-wing dictatorship/totalitarianism. Or trying hard to anyway. If this bill passes into law it will be almost unbelievable. The only reason it is the least bit believable is this is the way we have been headed for 30 years, goose step by goose step.

  29. paul wenum February 17, 2011 at 9:44 pm #

    Apparently you know nothing about what you speak nor law. “Apparently make it legal to kill doctors who perform abortions.” Finally, “under consideration” does not make law. With lips that slip into BS like yours no wonder we have major entitlement problem and todays children have no idea what is in their future other than people of your ilk that I pray never end up running this republic! Your posts and any followers scare me thinking about my childrens future under any ruler with a mindset like you. If so, we will have a a major problem and I do mean MAJOR.

  30. Rob N. Hood February 18, 2011 at 8:24 am #

    Paul, It doesn’t say it was law… yet. Where does it say that? I said IF !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OMG, this is just too depressing. I might as well go back to working with the mentally retarded full time.

    Paul – it is you, and people like you, who are the true enemies of America’s democracy. You and others (Dan) have even hinted that you don’t beleive in democracy. Maybe it’s time for you all to come out of the shadows and explain that. Don’t be afraid, you should stand up for your true beliefs. I have, and do all the time. I’ll wait to hear from you all about this…

  31. paul wenum February 18, 2011 at 8:06 pm #

    Reading your rants is interesting to say the least. Sense you are a very frustrated individual?

  32. Rob N. Hood February 19, 2011 at 8:26 am #

    And you wonder why…? Paul, you are exhibit #1.

    Want to accept a real challenge, and comment on your inability to read english correctly? Or not. You are free to do so, or not. I’m not the least bit surprised that you choose not to.

  33. paul wenum February 19, 2011 at 10:39 pm #

    Assumed a caustic remark was to be forthcoming.

  34. Rob N. Hood February 20, 2011 at 8:50 am #

    Just responding honestly. Sorry.

  35. hazir dogal rulo cim February 25, 2011 at 12:55 pm #

    Paul, It doesn’t say it was law… yet. Where does it say that? I said IF !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OMG, this is just too depressing. I might as well go back to working with the mentally retarded full time.

  36. paul wenum February 25, 2011 at 8:24 pm #

    Nice try. Found ya!

  37. paul wenum February 25, 2011 at 11:06 pm #

    Robbie Boy, go back to work with the mentally handicapped. May bring you back to reality. I will see you later. Watch out for bed bugs. They have a tendency to bite. hate those little buggers. By the way, progressives/liberals don’t say “retarded” why do you? Tell you friends that I’m on to them as well. Have a great day.

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