Lord Monckton Warns of Copenhagen "Executive Agreement"

Since President Obama cannot get a formal climate treaty ratified by the US Senate, he instead plans to sign an “executive agreement” which will commit the United States to most of the same terms included in the original draft of the treaty but will not be called a “treaty”.

18 Responses to Lord Monckton Warns of Copenhagen "Executive Agreement"

  1. Rob N. Hood December 9, 2009 at 3:36 pm #

    Seems suspiciously like something Bush would do- that is not consult with the public or their representatives before making an “executive decision.” I have to say I don’t like it any more now than I did when Bush was doing it.

    The saddest thing is that Americans are cultivated like mushrooms from birth to death, kept in the dark and fed horseshit. Consequently, they haven’t the slightest idea that there is an alternative to the system in which they labor at the pleasure of corporate and financial elites who own both their government and their every waking hour. That alternative is democratic Socialism. I.e. – Self governance for the broadest common good. Which the Ministry of Truth has defined for them as “fascism” or “communism” or whatever else sounds bad at the moment.

    Will Americans ever rise up in defense of their own common well being through such things as education, health and a productive peace caring society? Nope. Because it has been assured that socialism — the administration of the nation solely for the common good and benefit of all the people without preference or privilege — doesn’t stand a chance in America. For over a century those who have attempted to further socialism have been shot, hanged, burned alive in their beds on Christmas Eve, imprisoned, falsely accused of crimes and falsely convicted, and demonized by the capitalist elites of the corporate state. The cause of socialism has effectively been wiped out in the US. Few Americans can even define the word. Most think it is a political system when it is a social philosophy. Hell, half the socialists these days think it is entirely a political system.

    But even if Americans understood socialism, they are too terrified to ever admit to its virtues, much less publicly support the cause. And without free and open public participation in some democratic form of socialism, regardless of the name or label given it, there can be no recognition of the people’s common welfare and good. And so the most egalitarian social philosophy ever conceived dies within a nation, with very little chance of being reborn because such an ideal, by its definition, cannot exist within the narrow mindset of bankers and oligarchs.

    Good bye America. It was a nice dream, once.

  2. Dan McGrath December 9, 2009 at 3:41 pm #

    There is no such thing as democratic socialism. Socialism can’t stand without tyranny – it runs counter to human nature and requires coersion or force from a strong central government to maintain. All self-governance is for the broadest common good. How could it be for anything else? A constitutional republic is the only way to enjoy self-governance without the extreme danger of a tyranny of the majority trampling over the rights of minorities.

  3. Rob N. Hood December 9, 2009 at 5:36 pm #

    Do you even know what democratic socialism is? Your statement about it is so absolute it is obviously wrong. Please educate me on your definition of this, AND what constitutional republic is. Thanks.

    BTW, your post validates mine.

  4. Valancelot December 9, 2009 at 9:22 pm #

    Lord Monckton is the ‘Watchman’ Winston Churchill of our time.

    Godspeed, my friend. Keep on fighting the good fight.

  5. paul wenum December 10, 2009 at 12:03 am #

    You keep stating “capitalist elites.” Do you ever once mention George Soros, Albert Gore? Please let us all know. It seems that you back their “sound” Theories?? List the “Capitalist Elites” that you emphatically state on a consistent basis are the cause of the problem. We would all like to know who our “enemies are wouldn’t we?? Let us know in detail so that we can be aware of their evil intents. Name them now or forever hold your peace!!

  6. Rob N. Hood December 10, 2009 at 9:04 am #

    Yes, Paul, I would include them on that list, and I think I already have. Pay attention. Some are worse than others however, and the fact that one set of elites is “attacking” another proves that (climate change issue). However, for the most part they are all working the same side. And, yes, I think some of them don’t realize the power they help transfer to mulit-national corporations- of which BTW do not have the average publics’ interest’s in mind- but I can’t prove that of course. Big e.g. is the Big Banks ripping us off in the biggest scam to date. “Too big to fail”. What a crock of sh–. You guys should be much more angry about that. But hey I guess that is yesterday’s news, and not so full of conspriacy- it was done all out in the open for all to see.

    The “enemies” are the big mulit-national corporations. They have brand names but basically are not human so I cannot “name names” as you request so naively. I could name their CEO’s but they come and go. Those corporations run the world, exploit it and the people too. You just don’t see or hear that much about it here in the USA. Why? Gee for starters they own the MSM… we’ve been brain-washed since birth (TV age) Wake up. Big Pharma and Health just won again with the new health care “reform.” They win, we lose. Same old story. Only they are now reaching closer to having global control. Get it? Ok, now start paying closer attention. Read about it- WTO, IMF, “free trade” agreements, etc. Read the book, “When Corporations Rule The World.”, then let’s talk. BTW- they have bought off most of all our “representatives” a long time ago. And you guys wonder why our country is so screwed up?!

  7. Rob N. Hood December 10, 2009 at 9:11 am #

    Clarification- what I said I can’t prove is that some elites, let’s say Al Gore, or even George the Dim for example, may not realize they are being used by the truly powerful. I believe Al Gore truly believes Cap and Trade will help the carbon issue, and if he makes money off it so what? That is the American way is it not? Yes, Paul it is.

    More repetitive clarification- I DO NOT support CaT. It is just another money making scam invented by elites. And we in this coutnry are starting to see more of the great rip off. We are being targeted now too, more than before. Why? I guess just becaue we are ripe for the picking (and gullible and brainwashed too). They got you guys fighting tooth and nail against global warming while they are stealing you, and me, blind. They aren’t stupid.

  8. Rob N. Hood December 10, 2009 at 5:15 pm #

    Ok, to make it even easier for ya’ll. Just check out the Forbes 100/500. They’re there. That doesn’t include, of course all the politicians and dictators that they have pimped all over the world, via legal bribery i.e. campaign “contributions” and of course illegal bribery via Swiss bank accounts, etc. etc.

  9. paul wenum December 10, 2009 at 11:00 pm #

    Answer the original question please.

  10. Rob N. Hood December 11, 2009 at 11:17 am #

    Just did. It’s a fluid list of course and I cannot name those I don’t know of. They are the rich/elite 1-5 percenters (owners of the world’s wealth), plus the pols and generals and “presidents” and dictators, etc. that they buy/bribe. This isn’t rocket science Paul.

  11. Rob N. Hood December 11, 2009 at 4:46 pm #

    I wonder how big the checks are from BP to Lord M.

  12. paul wenum December 11, 2009 at 9:11 pm #

    Name the Democrats please, starting with Gore going down the list. I assume you have a list? You quote it. We would all love to know. You love specific detail as you always post. The list please?

  13. BigSky December 14, 2009 at 5:19 am #

    This is Obama’s problem, not George Bush’s. George Bush has been out of office since January.

  14. Rob N. Hood December 14, 2009 at 1:40 pm #

    Paul, you lovable knucklehead, I don’t know who on those lists are Democrat or Republican, nor do I care (there are both I’m assuming). It is the fact they “they” do not live in the same world as we do. They operate by very different rules, etc. THAT is the POINT, not who’s who. Damn, guy, the Dem Repub thing is part of the GAME!! Why can’t you… well never mind. I’m wasting valuable finger power now…

  15. paul wenum December 14, 2009 at 10:57 pm #

    You are wasting space on this sight. Did you notice today that Gore did not tell the truth? I doubt it my Boy!

  16. Rob N. Hood December 15, 2009 at 9:07 am #

    You’re right- there’s no excuse for that kind of sloppiness. Truthfully, Al G. is not someone I look up to as much as I have in the past. I don’t agree with Cap and Trade. But there are MANY equally, and many more greater, devils out there than him.

  17. Paul Wenum December 15, 2009 at 9:28 pm #

    For once we agree.


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