By Robert Ferguson
The Senate testimony of Sec. Chu is predicated upon false assumptions, points out Christopher Monckton in a succinct letter to Senators posted by the Science and Public Policy Institute [SPPI], a Washington DC –based NGO.
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The letter points out that Chu’s testimony cites the now-outdated 2007 Climate Assessment Report of the IPCC and a subsequent but also now-outdated MIT study, saying global warming by 2100 would be 7-11 Fº. “These excessive estimates are founded solely on computerized guesswork,†says Christopher Monckton, former adviser to UK Prime Minister Thatcher and current SPPI policy adviser.
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Monckton reviews a number of recent papers having appeared in the peer-reviewed literature that put the man-made warming scare to rest, and render regulation of CO2 emissions needless and blindingly fatuous.
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Particular attention is given to the recent paper of Lindzen and Choi (2009). Using direct measurements of outgoing radiation, the two researchers found that the IPCC models get both the science and their “predictions†wrong. Monckton presents a series of IPPC model graphs and compares them to the one produced from real measurements. “The IPPC model predictions,†reports Monckton, “actually trend in a direction opposite to that of the graph from observed reality.â€
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Concludes Monckton, “By patient, painstaking measurement, the two researchers have trumped the computer models’ unanimously erroneous guesswork, and have definitively ended the debate over the question how much warming CO2 causes. Therefore, Secretary Chu’s declaration that the ‘threat’ from ‘climate change’ is ‘grave’ and that current levels of CO2 emission are ‘unsustainable’ has no scientific justification.â€
Ah, we hear again from the foreign guy Lord (of all things) Monckton. Who thought right-wingers would gladly champion a foreigner, who is advocating unpatriotic ideas/actions. All we had to do during the Bush years was mildy criticize the government and we were told in no incertain terms we were Un-American and Unpatriotic. Suddenly just because a Democrat is President for a few months all these “rules” fly out the window- and at the behest of someone not even American. Wow! The integrity and/or gullibility of the average winger is something to behold. Now this:
The crisis afflicting South America underscores larger environmental problems confronting Andean glaciers, an issue that is taken up at some length in the upcoming book, No Rain in the Amazon: How South America’s Climate Affects the Entire Planet (Palgrave, April 2010). In the Andes, so-called “tropical glaciers” spread out over 965 square miles and form an imposing landscape. Peru contains a full 71 percent of South America’s tropical glaciers, and to the dismay of many local inhabitants, ice peaks are now turning brown.
Quelccaya, the world’s largest tropical ice cap, is retreating at about 200 feet a year, up from 20 feet in the 1960s. Over the past few decades, Peru has lost 22 percent of its surface glacier area. That spells trouble for the Andean nation, which relies on glaciers for much of its water supply. According to authorities, the country has lost 7 billion cubic meters of water as a result of glacier melt. That’s the same amount of water consumed by Lima, a city of more than 8 million people, over the course of 10 years.
Phooey, your reply is phooey Mr. Hood.
The left “Champions” Albert Gore. Need I say more?
This has nothing to with and doesn’t even mention Gore. You are a broken record, obsessed and paranoid.
Rob N. Hood
Please provide accurate, up to date scientific research and naming sources.
To say these things is one thing, to prove is totally different.
You say this was going on in the 60’s at a slower rate, why the change to a faster rate?
It must be very lonely being the last flat-earther. Inhofe stands alone.
Sen. Jim Inhofe of Oklahoma, committed climate-change denier, found himself in a position Tuesday as the
Senate environment committee, on which he is the ranking Republican, took up legislation on global warming.
Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-Gay.) was in talks with Democrats over a compromise bill — the traitor! And as Inhofe listened,
fellow Republicans on the committee — turncoats! — made it clear that they no longer share, if they ever did, Inhofe’s view
that man-made global warming is the “greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people.”
“Eleven academies in industrialized countries say that climate change is real; humans have caused most of the recent warming,”
— Sen. Lamar Alexander (R).
“I want to get us beyond high-carbon fuels and focus on conservation, nuclear, natural gas and new technologies like electric cars.”
— oil-state senator, David Vitter (R).
“Climate change is a serious and complex issue that deserves our full attention.”
— industrial-state senator, George Voinovich (R).
…and then there’s poor Inhofe: “Science is not settled! Everyone knows it’s not settled!”
Inhofe called for more oil drilling. His aides sent out an e-mail —
‘We should fear a deep temperature drop — not catastrophic global warming.’ “
Whatever denier.
There are reports to read regarding the growth of many glaciers in other countries at the same time some countries like S. America are experiencing glacial melting. There are ebbs and flows to climate change in different parts of the world that balance out each other. I was just reading an article written in April about Antarctica. There is a concern that the western part of the ice cap is in a warming/melting trend. BUT, the eastern part is growing at the same time to more than make up for the melting in the west. Knowing the political agenda of those pushing this hysteria about global warming, the validity of it is suspect because of that alone.
What ever happened to the nursery story, that taught us to beware of Chicken Little, who after getting hit in the head with an acorn ran around through the barnyard, with eyes proturding, shouting “The sky is falling!”, and any who dared to show him the acorn was the precise size as the knot on his head and that he was not the only one to recieve such a blow and survive, were laughed at and ridiculed into silence. The barn yard flock was alarmed into guilt over their cosumption and bad habits of littering at random, although they had at great expense to themselves and at times even to their very lives supplied the farmer with the things that he enjoyed. Does it not seem odd that those that make the most noise are gaining the most in our freemarket system. and will have nothing to do with personal sacrific to see the goals they have for us accomplished?
Cluck
P.S. Have you ever listened to the weather man inside his studio go on about the weather and he would do better if he just stepped outside with his mike and looked up at his surroundings. Step outside Old Bean, and take a breath of common sense.
Cluck, Cluck
This theory of global warming was forced on us, then when the climate did not cooperate it became climate change. This belief system is presented to us as if the world is going to end in the morning, Then to solve this problem they want to take what is left from being taxed to laying a heavier tax burden on the average american. It sounds like some other men that I have heard Fleecing the Flock, and get soundly condemned for it, as they should be.
Cluck
Climate Change & Global Warming are liberal code-speak for population control and abortion. “Be fruitful and multiply and fill the ends of the earth.”
“Eleven academies in industrialized countries say that climate change is real; humans have caused most of the recent warming,â€
Lamar forgot the word government in front of academies. These same academies were wrong on global cooling and are know to get behind most any hoax that will bring grants their way. Let’s not ever forget why they were created and why they exist today. They are used to inform politicians and they are masters at minipulating their field of science to maximize their budgets. Today they are much more political than scientific.
I don’t think there are any glaciers ANYWHERE that are growing. Where do you get YOUR information from about that…? Why do you trust it, just becuase it is what you want to hear? And if you believe that all acadamies are really run by governments, which is not true of course, but if it was, then the ones that you choose to believe have to be political as well. Your logic and reasoning is faulty.
And talk about Chicken Little, Jeff’s comment says it all.
Well, I can think of couple. Mt. St. Helens’ Crater glacier is growing, despite being pummelled by lava – it’s in the shade, you see. The sun seems to have some strange influence on warming. I’m still trying to figure out what the sun has to do with heat on the Earth. It’s mysterious. Perhaps it bombards our atmosphere with CO2? Then, there’s the Glacier at Mt. Shasta – growing 3 ft per year, IIRC. Let’s not forget Antarctica.
Thanks Dan, we all needed that.
The Kyoto Idiots show precisely the state of Jap-Ons science ability,what did they do ,give out Lexus cars if UN Idiots agreed with them. The state of the earths economies are teetering on a bunch of whacked out “Peers”.
I sure am glad that I am not one of “Their” peers. Climate Science is an untold story…. Not many have it right at all,because they have to go to the right school first.
Thomas, you mean the ‘Left school” i believe?
Gee, ok Dan, but even if what you posted was true (I’m not saying it isn’t) what about ALL the others? There’s always exceptions to anything (usually) and so your post becomes anecdotal and meaningless.
All the professional deniers are backed by Big Business. And that is only common sense.
If glaciers never melted, there’d be no great lakes and Minnesota would be covered in ice year-round. Ice melts.
The very use of the term “deniers” as a pejorative illustrates clearly what global warming… er, climate change, represents for those that sling it without thought:
It’s a religion, and where faith is concerned you can’t let pesky things like facts and science get in the way.
If you read up a little on global warming, you will find that glaciers are an insignificant issue. Even if they all melted, it would have no real effect on anything! But the amount of melting that is actually taking place overall is not clear and difficult to measure. So glaciers are just a distraction. The ocean level is risng very slowly at 2 mm per year and this is due to the thermal expansion of water. It has nothing to do with glaciers. Wake up fellas.
Oh, so let me try and understand this silly and insignificant issue. So all these glaciers, except for one or two, or so, are melting, at a rate greater than we’ve seen, ever, meaning in 200 years or so (at least). And these same glaciers are thousands of years old, and we don’t need to worry about that, at all? Gee, ok, Lloyd Johnson, thank you so much for clearing that up. Check another thing off that I don’t need to think about. Gosh, that was easy…
Oh, sorry Dan, I didn’t see your post. You are even more inane than Lloyd was. I wasn’t sure that was possible- that is until I saw your scholarly post. Wow.
And Tikkun- the denier term is an accurate description, and not used pejoratively by me. If you want to be sensitive about it go right ahead. And from my viewpoint, it is the denier phenomenon that appears religious and cult-like. I guess it just depends on how you look at it, huh?
Support for Tikkun’s premise is found in recent history. A well known Scientist announced his findings that the sun was indeed the center of our planetary system and he was ridiculed, harassed, threatened and eventually persecuted, even though no one could dispute his claims.
We now have the religion of ‘globwarms’ who now deny the facts when presented to them. They fall back on faith in their bogus ‘research models’ to keep them comfy. Please refer to the definition of dogma. That is the last refuge for these people when confronted with truth.
Huh?
Robby Boy, Why the heck are you such a “Ostrich”? Remember, I don’t swear. Must be my religious upbringing?, or is that taboo today as well? Glaciers expand and retract. That is a scientific fact. Even a fourth grader knows that. that is unless, they are singing songs “praising Obama!” Later “Saul”.
Pauly Boy, it’s who who is the Ostrich. Does the Ostrich know he’s an Ostrich? Nope.
Your response that all school children know that glaciers grow and shrink is a perfect example of your reasoning process. Simplistic and attached to an attack. You even throw in there that is it scientific fact. You certainly like to cherry-pick your scientific “facts.” Funny how you ignore or attack other “facts” blithely. As all ( I won’t say school chidren, because what I am about to add is something most people don’t understand until high school or beyond that) adults know, or should know, that most of science is not exact. Some of it is, of course, otherwise we wouldn’t be able to planes, or even drive cars. But some is not exact. However, a majority of scientists believe that there is something wrong with “climate change” and that certain gases are to blame and that many if not most of the gases are connected to human activity. That is all they are saying basically. A reasonable person would not dismiss this majority as definitely as deniers do.
Ask any scientist that studies Glaciers and then you will understand. I don’t have to write 50 “quotes” out of a paper handed to me. Go to the source. Enough said.
Gosh Paul, you had your chance. You’ve even taken me to task many times for the same reason, and NOW YOU BAIL ON IT???!!!
Enough said.
Have been there, seen the glaciers, talked to scientists. Have you seen a glacier, walked it, talked to the people that live with them daily as a scientist? I doubt it!, I have. Or do you simply have Al Gore’s web-page memorized?
Limited government is the answer. A 25% tax payable through our churches and mosques is the only tax we need!
This side of the pond we have UK and EU politicians hinting that global warming denial should become a crime in much the same way as Holocaust denial already is in Germany. The difference is, of course, that the Holocaust is indisputable but global warming, so far as I can see, is not yet proven and if it were to be so, those who denied it could simply be ignored.
When the champions of global warming feel that they must denigrate or attack those of opposite views they expose the potential weakness of their position and are themselves in denial of the possibility of there being a contrary but valid argument.
To suggest or even think about making denial of global warming a crime further weakens their position and we are moving towards a very dangerous stage indeed, to the point where ‘they’ could say “we disagree with you so we are going to throw you in gaol to shut you upâ€.
That’ll work, won’t it?
Sorry Paul but I don’t beleive you. Maybe, just maybe you are referring to ONE glacier. But you seem to have been everywhere and talked to all the right people no matter what issue comes up.
And Fred- GREAT IDEA! But I wouldn’t just target religion like that but it would sure help!
Sorry that you do not travel as I have over the years. You would have an entirely different outlook on things such as different cultures, lifestyles, etc. Believe what you want. Does not bother me in the least.
It appears that Rob has his nose a bit out of joint. How dare we not agree with his reality.
I have a few good reasons, anybody who quotes Government scientists or the totally discredited IPCC research, is missing the point.
Scientific research is a process not a destination, ergo one can not simply take a bit of 10 year old research and ignore current findings of new research.
No sane person can credit Al Gore’s attempt at scaring people seriously, the basic science is not there and the extrapolations made are completely wrong, and can be scientifically shown to be wrong, even using IPCC old and new climate science reports.
This has also been re-enforced by the British courts who declared the film to be unscientific, and most of Mr. Gore’s claims and assertions to be untrue.
That should dispense with the self serving Mr. Gore. – case closed.
Climate change proponents behave like all zealots – you either agree with ALL their claims or you are labeled as a skeptic.
Climate change is a natural phenomena, at this stage we are not sure if it will get hotter or colder ( yep that is true ). The claim that man made carbon is the guilty party has no science to support it, in scientific research shows that exactly the oppsoite is true.
This leads us to a simple position in a quest for clarity – follow the money – who is making it now and why – who wants to make even more tomorrow and into the future.
Anybody who wants to follow the science has a problem – On the one hand we have a stream of new research and on the other we have the zealots who will stick to their beliefs despite any real scientific research.
In addition to that I would like to point to a previous group who behaved in exactly the same way as today’s climate zealots.
Please read up on Eugenics – you might ask what this has to do with anything, well here we had a bunch of people who believed that some people deserved to live and others did not.
The supporters included lots of prominent people, politicians, bankers, financiers, universities and more.
This was an international movement supported by almost every country in the world.
The looked down on all who did not agree and called them heritics, unbelievers, skeptics and much more.
Legislation was enacted and in California alone some 65,000 people were sterilized under these laws.
Then our good friend Adolf Hitler decided that he would use these same beliefs and apply it a bit better than the other countries. and we know what happened then.
At Nuremberg, the Nazi officials pointed out that they were simply implementing the same “science” put forward by the West.
If you are brave, read this and then maybe the likes of rob can put his head back in the sand.
http://www.globalclimatescam.com/?p=673
Philip Smith
Australia
Philip, Thank you. Unfortunately the vast majority of Americans that I talk to have no clue. Yes, the are the “Robby Boys” of the world that have never experienced, seen, heard, lived with other climates, cultures and ideas. I will read your attachment, but that said, American’s have to wake up someday and get away from the “blame you, blame me” finger pointing with no thought other than what they see in the media, be it print, TV or radio. Oprah is more powerful in our country then our President!! Now that is a scare point that makes my gut wretch! George Orwell was right, unfortunately. Finally, I agree on your one point specific, “Follow the money.” Gore, Soros, GE et al. That, you never read in our so called unbiased media. Thanks again, Philip!! I needed your post as well as others.