Gingrich Feels the Heat for Appearing in Global Warming Ad With Pelosi

225px-newt_gingrich_official_portraitEvery presidential candidate is going to come into the 2012 race with baggage. But Newt Gingrich has what, for primary voters, could be a doozy in his closet — three years ago, he cut an ad with Nancy Pelosi for Al Gore’s climate change group.The ad, in which Gingrich and Pelosi don awkward smiles while talking about clean-energy solutions, is coming back to haunt him, along with other statements he’s made about climate change, as he officially launches his presidential bid. While Democrats have a long and winding list of grievances against the former House speaker, his past environmentalism could cause problems on the political right.

The early complaints are coming in large part from a former aide to Congress’ No.1 climate change skeptic, Sen. James Inhofe, R-Okla. The ex-aide, Marc Morano, has virtually devoted his blog ClimateDepot to lambasting Gingrich’s stance on energy issues.

Morano specifically wants Gingrich to apologize for the Pelosi ad and for suggesting that lawmakers need to find a solution to global warming.

“It’s almost like he can’t admit he made a mistake,” Morano told FoxNews.com. “He needs to say it was a brain fart, at the very least.”

Read the rest at Fox News.

75 Responses to Gingrich Feels the Heat for Appearing in Global Warming Ad With Pelosi

  1. paul wenum May 17, 2011 at 5:47 pm #

    That is one reason he will never get my vote as well as others. Now that he knocked Paul Ryan it just confirmed what I thought.

  2. Rob N. Hood May 18, 2011 at 8:49 am #

    Flip flopper extraordinaire! Paul- you must agree with “Obama-care” if you like Ryan’s plan, no?

    • Jerk A. Knot May 18, 2011 at 9:11 am #

      N G is the typical middle man that lives off the center vote. He is Done. Stick a fork in him and get him off the grill. As for the last part of your post….. HUGH??? (Scratching my head)…..

  3. paul wenum May 18, 2011 at 8:04 pm #

    Sir Knot, have no idea what this Robbie Boy is saying. It is a contradiction. As to Gingrich, he’s toast as a candidate even after his “apology.” T-Paw is looking better every day.

  4. Rob N. Hood May 19, 2011 at 8:07 am #

    I was saying to Paul that if he likes Ryan’s plan he must like Obama’s since they are practicaly identical. That’s all. Sorry I wasn’t clear, enough.

    What you guys fail to realize is that our government basically already runs everything and allows or disallows all (most) business through favorable or unfavorable taxes, etc. Especially big buisness because they have the money to buy politicians, and that’s the way they like it. It’s always been that way and always will. It’s hand in glove. It’s sort of a charade that they are against each other (business and government). But it gets the right wing voters to pretend otherwise. War is the biggest business (oil being part of that of course), unfortunately.

    Our government could take the same money that it invests in wars, and the much larger pile of money that it invests in the base military budget, and instead invest it elsewhere. We could cut the military by 85% and still have the world’s largest. We could take some or all of that saved money and put it into infrastructure or green energy or education, each of which would produce more jobs and better paying jobs than the military. But there’s a problem. Investing public money in a massive jobs program that doesn’t slaughter lots of innocent human beings is Socialism. Slaughtering innocent human beings is something our politicians can stomach, but “Socialism” is simply beyond the pale. So it’s kill people or crash the economy; pick your poison. You can hurt others or yourselves.

    Or . . .

    Or we can go with what Americans tell pollsters they want to do: end the wars, tax the rich, tax and disempower the corporations, create single-payer healthcare, and invest in education, green energy, and non-violent jobs. Or… you can continue too keep your brain washed and asleep, and keep voting for the status quo even though you are fooled into believing you are being rebels and are not doing so…

    • Jerk A. Knot May 19, 2011 at 8:56 am #

      WOW you just fixed the world… You are so smart RB. You should run for office. I encourage you to start locally. Don’t run in CA though they are already broke out there. Come down here to AL. We would love for you to take ober and unbrain wash us.

      Now seriously, Do you have any idea how the military budget works. Do you have any idea how big our military is. BTW Iraq had a bigger military then we had when we went in. Yes that is a fact They had 10x as many solidiers on the battlefield than we did. Just to clue you in some more both China, India, Vietnam, Russia and both North and South Korea have larger militaries then we do. Iran and Pakistan are about even with us. Do you know that the war budget and the military budget are 2 different items? Did you know that within the military budget there ase 5 different “colors of money” Some are one year and some are 2 year comitments. No you dont know that because all you want to spew is left wing propagands that is long on feelings and short on substance. Do you really think that if we cut our military Budget by 85% that crazy people like Kim Jong Il would not hesitate to take action against us. If so you are niave.

  5. Rob N. Hood May 19, 2011 at 5:57 pm #

    How big is our military…?? Hmmmm. Easy question: too damn big, duh. Which also makes it too expensive, Duh 2. If you all listened with logic and reason you’d realize what I say is not only true but necessary to balance the budget realistically. That’d be duh No. 3. Our military is the biggest and most expensive… Duh #4… Re: the different “colors” of money re: your two separate militaries, well I just don’t give a damn. It and you have proven nothing except you are a Hawk and love the military and love spending tons of money on it. I have another opinion.

    And Duh #5… who’s going to “take action” against us when they and their entire country would cease to exist within minutes thanks to the Manhatten Project??!! So many Duh’s, so little time… You seem to help prove that our public education system is ineed failing miserably.

    Oh. Duh number 6: it obviously didn’t matter how many soldiers Iraq had or has. Our expensive technology was vastly superior making numbers relatively meaningless. Sort of like the bluecoats with repeating Winchesters fighting the Indians, with their bows and arrows. Is that Duh #7, or did I lose count? Thanks for playing, try again. Preferably when you figure out what logic and reason is. And wasn’t it you who chastised me for saying we should worry about China’s military because they can muster millions of soldiers?? Is this another hypocritical Right-wing moment? Yes… it is.

    • Jerk A. Knot May 20, 2011 at 1:27 pm #

      Every one of these argument are 5th grade rants. You are talking about something you know nothing about. You can not sepperate your overtly dove passions to look out the window and see reality. Take a breath and calm down. Did you know that Iran is building missile sites in Venezuala? Reported by German and Isralie news networks. I ran really does not care if we drop Nukes on them. Alla will protect them. You have zero understanding of just how fearless they are. I have fought along side and against many people from SW Aisa. They are not scared of dieing, trust me on this one, and that is half of combat. Now oun to your Duh’s. How big does our military need to be? I make my judgement by referencing the National Military Strategy. You can get a copy if you Google it. Oh that is not a military written document. It tells the Pentagon what to do and plan for. Then there are Laws that tell the pentagon how many troops they are aloud to have to do thoes things. Each service get so many Airmen, sailors, ect…… oh I could go on and on. here is the bottom line. We The US has not dramitically changed wht we have told the pPentagon to do since WW2. But we have cut the ned strength by 2/3s. We have plenty of strength if any one thret kicks up but if we have to do multipale operations then we have issues and the Technology that is developed multiplies our strengths. Now what you really need to concentrate on is getting us out of Germany (since 1945), Out of Korea(1952), Out of Bosina, out of Kosovo, Out of Iraq, Afganastian and Libia. OBTW lets get out of the every other country in the world.

      My last comment to someone with such an uninformed view of world is this. If you dont defend yourself in a playground of bullies. It does not matter how strong you are you are going to get black eyes.

      • Rob N. Hood May 22, 2011 at 4:31 pm #

        Wow… you really cleared that up, and put me in my fifth grade place…NOT. Maybe if you used something other than your own fifth grade powers of reasoning and communication skills. One little example- you say the people you fought with and those who are extremist Muslim don’t care if they die. Again, giving you the benefit of the doubt (extremely so) and believing that’s true in the majority of those cases… you fail to realize it is NOT those folks’ call to make. The ones who make those decisions will be out of harms way and sucking down dry martinis while the bombs are dropping. That’d be duh #…. ??? Ahh heck with it, I give up. Your intellect must be much greater than mine, cuz you’re right I just don’t get it. Can’t help myself- the number of people volunteering for the armed services in the US is …. umm, voluntary. And until they bring back the draft, which I would not be surprised by, then there is nothing they can do about that. Oh, right… they can only have what they are “allowed.” Wow, well that clears THAT up too. Thanks so much. Me so dense… good thing there are such smart people like you out there.

  6. Rob N. Hood May 19, 2011 at 6:02 pm #

    Perhaps, Mr. Jerk, you were only referring the number of soldiers… giving you some benefit of the doubt. Doesn’t matter cuz we spend more than the rest of the world combined. What do we get for that? Less soldiers? Now who’s inefficient and short sighted??? No, not the precious military… Nah!!!!! Or you either….?

  7. paul wenum May 19, 2011 at 8:56 pm #

    We constantly read “If you all listened with logic and reason you’d realize,” blah, blah as if we don’t have either? Sir Knot, it will never change.

  8. Rob N. Hood May 20, 2011 at 9:44 am #

    There’s a reason I say that. You all rarely, if ever, use any real logic and/or reason, that’s why. I’ve even suggested you all take that to heart and think about it, to increase what very little credibility you do have by NOT utilizing those two very crucial skills. The trait of a truly thoughtful person is such that you would start demonstrating at least some kind of attempts to do that, but you haven’t. I keep giving you guys the benefit of the doubt that you can achieve something better. You continue to prove me wrong about that. This whole thing, for me, has been a kind of (limited) experiment about the mind of the Right-wing. I’ve proded, pushed, challenged, and even demonstrated great patience (of a sort), and even on some rare occasions made myself a model for you to follow. But to no avail. You guys know it all, need no assistance about anything, are experts in seriously complicated fields, without so much as a hint of humility or even humanity. My only consolation to these otherwise depressing results is that you guys are a relatively small slice of society (although your types are found in all walks of life and in all cultures). I shouldn’t be surprised, and yet that’s what has kept me here, my continued inability to accept that otherwise relatively seeming capable humans are stubborn and fixed as you all seem to be. I think deep down I knew that, but have found it hard to accept. Even this honest and, on the surface at least unthreatening, post will elicit outrage and hatred. How dare I, presume to tell you what to do or how to do it?! You Rightys are way to street smart and self-sufficient for any criticism to sink in…! To admit you are wrong?! That’d be SOFT, and would show weakness!! No way Jose! You’d rather stay stuck in the muck, thank you very much. I know, you will NEVER believe anything of the kind. Must be nice (not really) to be so secure and sure of yourself. Kinda like a six year old… You Rightys have always been on the wrong side of history. Always.

    • Jerk A. Knot May 23, 2011 at 9:14 am #

      You are correct we never use your form of reason and logic. You see in order to to that you must boil down the truths of this world to their core tenants. To do that you must be educated and have real world exeperence. RB you may be educated in some form or another, but it is verry evident that your world view and exeperence is that one gets by bloging on a computer. You rely wholy on the opinions and experence of others. Your logic is simple manta vs thought out cause and effect or deductive. I really wonder sometimes if you are the same person on each post because you have such mood swings. As for being on the wrong side of history I see that as a valid view from your perspective. As I have said on this post many times is that you want the total destruction of the Connstitution. Your view if this country is that it is evil and needs tobe torn down. That is why we will never agree. You claim the we (the right) are intolerent yet you post the most viseral degoratory posts about the right. You complain about the splinter in my eye yet you your self have a log in your…. That is why I call your argument 5th grade Material. It really is not worth responding to. As in this case in point. I have experence fighting with and agains people of the Muslim faith. I have been in full combat situations where on both sided they did things that were totally fearless. I have seen them charge into overwhelming fire to be chopped down while relishing in their faith in Alla’s will for them. I said nothing about extreamists. They are a brave people. In Iraq I saw fathers and sons fight together for their right to be self detrminate of there own country. That is something they have never had before. I saw the people of Iraq line up at police stations and at the army camps to join their army and police forces in droves. I saw 2x more pro USA demonstrations than Anti. But you never saw them here in the MSM. That is why I say that your view is warped by a lack of experence. You really don’t know what is going on. You read and believe what agrees with your view and dismiss what does not as lies. You can not determin the validity of what you read because you have nothing to filter it with. I don’t hate you at all I just feel sorry for you and all the bitterness you are burdened with. Good Luck Robbie Boy. I hope you are able to find peace. My last word to you is to try the Bible it truly will set you free.

      • Rob N. Hood May 24, 2011 at 12:56 pm #

        You assume much too much, as usual. And make anecdotal real-world observations that relate little to the discussion at hand… and accuse me of wanting the total destruction of the Constitution. That is not only a very great assumption and wild extrapolation but absurd as well. Illogical assumptions and wild accusations are what is expected from the Right, and you validate all those cliches and more. Ohhh, you were in “full combat” situations so that makes you an expert in and superior in thinking, how? Visions of grandeur are another hallmark of the ego-centric and narrow-minded. I am so glad you are so free via the Bible Jerk boy. It really must be nice living so insulated and sure of one’s own prejudices and personal opinions.

        As to my intolerance, yes I admit I am… I am intolerant of intolerance, willful ignorance, and selfishness. So sue me.

        • Jerk A. Knot May 25, 2011 at 11:55 am #

          No I wont sue you. I will continue to pitty you. The bitterness in your posts reviel the real you. You have no concept of life outside of the small room that your computer is in. Of so it appears to me. I realize you think I am narrow minded because I don’t think like you. In reality I don’t think like you because I have more experences in life than you. My Combat experence is only part of my life time experence. It did provide a point of clarity that you probably will never reach. When you come to the realization that there are people that will rejoice in your death and they are activly enguaged in doing so and at the same time you can tell what they ate 5 min ago from the smell of their breath that is really a sobering moment. I have also been in 3rd world countries on Mission Trips. As well as in some of the roughest cities in the US. I have also been fortunate to attend som very hoty toyty events. I have been out in the world that is not brainwashing it is eye openining. It is funny that you call me insulated in the same post that you make light of my real life anecdotal accounts. Of course your lack of experence make you so much wiser than me. Might I say this. I admire your consistancy. You are consistantly out of touch with the real world.

  9. Rob N. Hood May 21, 2011 at 11:06 am #

    A quiet… self reflective moment?! Or a break to “reload”? Hmmmm….. one can only hope, right?

    The Supreme Court’s ruling last year that reiterated and rubber-stamped the ability of corporations to use their cash to influence elections in a nation that calls itself “the land of the free” shows that after 125 years, the court is still on the side of the corporations.

    In a withering dissent against the Supreme Court’s narrow 5-4 decision last year, Justice John Paul Stevens wrote, “Corporations have no consciences, no beliefs, no feelings, no thoughts, no desires (except greater profits). Corporations help structure and facilitate the activities of human beings, to be sure, and their ‘personhood’ often serves as a useful legal fiction. But they are not themselves members of ‘We the People’ by whom and for whom our Constitution was established.”

    And they have been able to legally steal the majority of rights, and money, from the gullible public. How? Mainly via the well-paid brainwashers of the corporate owned MSM. And their well-paid lobbyists of course. And also the legal bribery of our “public servants.” Pass me my drepession meds…

  10. NEIL F. AGWD/BSD May 22, 2011 at 7:49 am #

    http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/08/01/a-primer-for-disproving-ipcc%e2%80%99s-theory-of-man-made-global-warming-using-observed-temperature-data/
    “As shown in Figures 3 and 4, claims by the IPCC of 1) “Most of the observed increase in global average temperatures since the mid-20th century is very likely” man made, and 2) “For the next two decades a warming rate of 0.2 deg C per decade is projected” are not supported by the observed data, thus disproving IPCC’s theory of man made global warming.

    According to the CRU data shown in Figure 3, the 30-years global warming from 1970 to 2000, after human emission of CO2 for 60 years, was nearly identical to the 30-years global warming from 1910 to 1940. In the intervening 30-years, there was a slight global cooling from 1940 to 1970. Furthermore, since year 2000, as shown in Figure 4, the global warming rate decelerated by a factor of 8.3 compared to the decade before. This is the story of global mean temperature trends for the last 100 years!

    Does not the observed data in Figures 1 and 2 show a cyclic global mean temperature pattern with an overall linear warming rate of 0.6 deg C per century?

    Dear citizens of the world, where is the catastrophic man made global warming they are scaring us with?

    Or is the scare a humongous version of the “Piltdown man”?

  11. Rob N. Hood May 22, 2011 at 10:59 am #

    I’ll bite- what, pray tell, is the Piltdown man?

    • NEIL F. AGWD/BSD May 22, 2011 at 12:30 pm #

      http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/piltdown.html
      Piltdown man is one of the most famous frauds in the history of science. In 1912 Charles Dawson discovered the first of two skulls found in the Piltdown quarry in Sussex, England, skulls of an apparently primitive hominid, an ancestor of man. Piltdown man, or Eoanthropus dawsoni to use his scientific name, was a sensation. He was the expected “missing link” a mixture of human and ape with the noble brow of Homo sapiens and a primitive jaw. Best of all, he was British!

      As the years went by and new finds of ancient hominids were made, Piltdown man became an anomaly that didn’t fit in, a creature without a place in the human family tree. Finally, in 1953, the truth came out. Piltdown man was a hoax, the most ancient of people who never were.

  12. Rob N. Hood May 22, 2011 at 12:49 pm #

    I believe I posited this before but check out this theory: The powers-that-be (the wealthiest elite who truly run things, for their benefit of course) believe, rightly or wrongly, that peak oil has occurred, thus choosing the wise course they have helped push this “little green revolution” (climate change too) for the purposes of conserving what’s left of the accessible oil, and getting the rubes (that’s us) to cut back, use renewable, etc. etc. It wouldn’t be the dumbest plan, and militarily the only plan. Why do I say that? Well, what would our military do without all the oil it wants/needs? What would our enemies do, if they had more oil than we did militarily/economically? I believe it’s a much much bigger deal than we realize. Not for the general population to live rewarding lives, but for the elite to maintain the control they do and reap the profits they do. The Iraq invasion was just the more recent and most blatant example of what they will do for oil and for that advantage. It’s a crucial military need/asset. And so there may come a day, sooner than we think, that green may become patriotic. Militarily, not environmentally. In the meantime they will gouge us at the gas pumps and get even richer.

  13. NEIL F. AGWD/BSD May 22, 2011 at 9:22 pm #

    http://hockeyschtick.blogspot.com/2011/05/new-paper-shows-significant-natural.html
    “A paper published online today in the journal Geophysical Research Letters finds a strong influence of shifts in the Atlantic Multidecadal Oscillation (AMO) on changes in snow cover of the distant Tibetan Plateau over the past 200 years. Major shifts occurred in the 1840s, 1880s, 1920s, and 1960s with CO2 levels well below Hansen’s fictitious “safe limit” of 350 ppm. Ocean oscillations such as the AMO are not incorporated in climate models, but nonetheless have large effects upon climate change as demonstrated by this paper and others. Meanwhile, the IPCC claims they can’t explain climate change based on natural forces, allows no competing hypotheses, and thus proclaims man-made CO2 as the default climate control knob, while conveniently ignoring ocean oscillations and other natural influences. Although ocean oscillations are poorly understood and scant research is being done to understand this large natural climate forcing, the IPCC and fellow alarmists cannot rightfully claim that only man-made CO2 explains climate change over the past century.”

  14. paul wenum May 22, 2011 at 10:00 pm #

    Thank you Neil. We all needed your response to get this site back on course. I have been impatiently awaiting. This constant repetitive RB guy is boring me and that is an understatement. May as well hear/read the same every day. Never changes nor will it.Your post brings back reality. Thanks again Neil.

    • NEIL F. AGWD/BSD May 22, 2011 at 10:29 pm #

      Iv’e changed tactics. I am not going to get into urination contests any longer. If they want facts, reason, and logic, that is all I’m going to post without any further commentary.

  15. paul wenum May 22, 2011 at 11:10 pm #

    Needed that. Take care.

  16. NEIL F. AGWD/BSD May 23, 2011 at 5:40 am #

    http://www.drroyspencer.com/2011/05/indirect-solar-forcing-of-climate-by-galactic-cosmic-rays-an-observational-estimate/
    “I’ve made calculations based upon satellite observations of how the global radiative energy balance has varied over the last 10 years (between Solar Max and Solar Min) as a result of variations in cosmic ray activity. The results suggest that the total (direct + indirect) solar forcing is at least 3.5 times stronger than that due to changing solar irradiance alone.

    If this is anywhere close to being correct, it supports the claim that the sun has a much larger potential role (and therefore humans a smaller role) in climate change than what the “scientific consensus” states.”

    “In the bigger picture, this is just one more piece of evidence that the IPCC scientists should be investigating, one which suggests a much larger role for Mother Nature in climate change than the IPCC has been willing to admit. And, again I emphasize, the greater the role of Nature in causing past climate change, the smaller the role humans must have had, which could then have a profound impact on future projections of human-caused global warming.”

  17. Rob N. Hood May 23, 2011 at 7:06 am #

    You guys break the record for broken record posts… and you call me boring?! Wow.

  18. NEIL F. AGWD/BSD May 23, 2011 at 5:13 pm #

    This is important because it speaks to the fact that climate models lack a full understanding of climate forcing, and therefore are incapable of accurate predictions of future climate.

    http://notrickszone.com/2011/05/20/duh-oceans-drive-climate-not-co2-says-new-nature-study/
    “Even more astonishing for the scientists is the fact that all measurements indicate that these fluctuations are caused by deep currents of the equatorial Atlantic itself. “To date, when trying to explain tropical climate variations, we have always looked upwards, specifically to the atmosphere. Our new data, for the first time, direct our attention towards the depths of the ocean, thereby opening new perspectives for our scientific approach,” explained Dr Peter Brandt, professor at IFM-GEOMAR.”

  19. NEIL F. AGWD/BSD May 23, 2011 at 5:24 pm #

    http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/international-conservation-group-global
    “The Polar Bear Specialist Group of the International Union for the Conservation of Nature (IUCN), the organization of scientists that has attempted to monitor the global polar bear population since the 1960s, has issued a report indicating that there was no change in the overall global polar bear population in the most recent four-year period studied.

    “The total number of polar bears is still thought to be between 20,000 and 25,000,” the group said in a press release published together with a report on the proceedings of its 15th meeting

    20,000 to 25,000 polar bears worldwide is exactly the same population estimate the group made following its 14th international meeting.”

  20. Rob N. Hood May 24, 2011 at 11:34 am #

    It appears grasshopper finally take stone from palm…

    • NEIL F. AGWD/BSD May 24, 2011 at 8:15 pm #

      A grasshopper’s day (and night) are linked closely with the physical factors of the environment, especially temperature, but also light, rain, wind, and soil. Stereotyped and instinctive behavior patterns serve grasshoppers remarkably well in making adjustments to wide fluctuations of physical factors that otherwise might be fatal. Grasshoppers effectively exploit the resources of their habitat and at the same time are able to tolerate or evade the extremes of physical factors. Their characteristic rapid jumping and flying responses help them escape numerous enemies that parasitize or feed upon them.

  21. paul wenum May 24, 2011 at 6:47 pm #

    Good read Neil. Thanks for bringing us back to reality. I think the recent volcano caused more problems that the alleged and religious based “Global warming.”

  22. Rob N. Hood May 25, 2011 at 7:32 am #

    Cliff Claven of the blog…. cheers!

    • Jerk A. Knot May 25, 2011 at 11:55 am #

      LOL good one Woody!!!!

  23. Rob N. Hood May 25, 2011 at 12:03 pm #

    Thanks Karla…

  24. NEIL F. AGWD/BSD May 25, 2011 at 5:24 pm #

    Cheers is an American situation comedy television series that ran for 11 seasons from 1982 to 1993. It was produced by Charles/Burrows/Charles Productions, in association with Paramount Network Television for NBC, and was created by the team of James Burrows, Glen Charles, and Les Charles. The show is set in the Cheers bar (named for the toast “Cheers”) in Boston, Massachusetts, where a group of locals meet to drink, relax, chat and have fun. The show’s theme song, written and performed by Gary Portnoy, and co-written with Judy Hart Angelo, lent its famous refrain, “Where Everybody Knows Your Name”, as the show’s tagline.

  25. Rob N. Hood May 25, 2011 at 6:18 pm #

    Thanks again Cliffy.

    • NEIL F. AGWD/BSD May 25, 2011 at 8:30 pm #

      A chatter-box by nature, Cliff was well known as a storehouse of useless trivia, often of dubious veracity and bearing little relation to the conversation going on at the bar. Carla did not like Cliff and often insulted him or his opinions (Carla’s hatred ran so deep that in the Frasier episode “Cheerful Goodbyes” Carla has to be dragged out of Cliff’s retirement party after she finds out he isn’t leaving, and has to have a diver’s spear gun wrestled from her hands). Cliff took great pride in his job as a postal worker and often became agitated when people insulted his job or the U.S. Postal Service. He sometimes talked about his job as if he were in the police force.

  26. paul wenum May 25, 2011 at 8:58 pm #

    Neil, nice finish!

    • NEIL F. AGWD/BSD May 25, 2011 at 10:04 pm #

      I’m just getting started!
      http://icecap.us/index.php/go/political-climate
      “MANASSAS, Va. – On Tuesday, more than four months after the American Tradition Institute’s Environmental Law Center requested emails and other files from a specifically identified University of Virginia back-up computer, the University was hauled into court and made to stand and agree to comply with the Commonwealth’s Freedom of Information Act (FOIA).”

      “Under Virginia’s FOIA, ATI and co-petitioner Delegate Bob Marshall (R-Manassas) asked UVA to disgorge the emails and files that Virginia’s Attorney General also sought under other authority. The emails are specific communications sent and received by Dr, Michael Mann during his tenure at UVA in which he corresponded with, or discussed other, leading voices that represent the climate alarmist perspective. Seminal among them include discussions about his now infamous and discredited 1,000-year temperature reconstruction known as the “hockey stick.” There also already appears – from records ATI has received – to be additional information of the kind released in the “Climategate” emails that originated at the Climatic Research Unit at East Anglia University.”

    • Rob N. Hood May 26, 2011 at 6:44 am #

      Yeah… wow… good one….. You really showed me. And you accuse me of being irrelevant and off topic. But I see below you are back to your old self. The regurgitator of Right mantra and “real” science. If anyone is a paid (or unpaid) agent for this site it is you Neil. But I’m not paranoid or naive enough to actually believe that. Too bad Dan can’t compensate you in some way though.

      • Jerk A. Knot May 26, 2011 at 1:20 pm #

        So what in his last post was “right wing”? Is seeking truth “right wing” or is FOIA only for use in cases you deam sutable. You want to defend DR Mann. I find that admriable. But you want to do it from poisened ground. If DR. Mann played a part in delibertly skewing data to prove his theroy and conspired to hide the baseline. Then his credability is zero and all of his work is suspect. Why is this so important. Because Public policy is riding on these theroies. Millions of dollars, thousands of jobs, and peoples lives hang in the balance. You can call it mantra and dismiss our critizem by mocking it as “real” science all you want. You still to today produced one shread of evidance that DR Mann is crediable. Yet there is plenty to show he is not.

  27. Rob N. Hood May 26, 2011 at 3:30 pm #

    Right wing extremists possess no credibility. Sorry.

  28. paul wenum May 26, 2011 at 9:44 pm #

    Left wing extremists carry no weight or credibility as well. Point/counterpoint. Nice post Neil! Thanks Sir Knot!

  29. Rob N. Hood May 27, 2011 at 7:26 am #

    That is an interesting point actually. Whereas I am not an extremist (although you may actually believe that to be true) you and yours ARE. But we’ve had this discussion before as well. Haven’t you noticed the backlash that’s occurring towards the TeaTard politicians and thier extremist ideas? It appears your high hopes for 2012 are being dashed upon the rocks of extremist and anti-middle class mentality. But you continue to win on the assault on the environment, mostly, so you should feel good about that. You can fool some of the people some of the time but….

  30. paul wenum May 27, 2011 at 10:35 pm #

    Your opinion is noted and filed where appropriate.

  31. Rob N. Hood May 28, 2011 at 6:39 am #

    Good, ignore reality. Sometimes it does benefit the Democrats when you Rightys stick your heads in the sand. If it wasn’t for all those billionaire funded think tanks and their generous propaganda funding, and the Corporate Lame-stream Media, the far Right would have died out a long time ago. But what do I know, right?

    • NEIL F. AGWD/BSD May 29, 2011 at 3:30 am #

      Certainly not reality or facts.

  32. Rob N. Hood May 29, 2011 at 8:22 am #

    Neil says, head firmly stuck in sand.

  33. paul wenum May 29, 2011 at 9:04 pm #

    RB is in cement. There is a difference.

  34. Rob N. Hood May 30, 2011 at 8:04 am #

    Ouch, touche… got me good…. So good at the last word and the final stab. The continual Rightwing search for the jugular. Don’t just defeat your rivals, grind them into the ground until even their DNA disappears. Good show old chap.

  35. paul wenum May 30, 2011 at 11:08 pm #

    Thank you. I appreciate good comments.

  36. Rob N. Hood June 8, 2011 at 6:55 am #

    In the first edition (but only the first edition) of his textbook ‘Principles of Economics,’ economist Greg Mankiw famously derided President Reagan’s supply-side advisers as charlatans and cranks. It’s pretty clear that when Mr. Mankiw wrote that, he imagined that this was only a phase, that Republicans would return to more sensible policies. In fact, however, the party is sinking ever further into deep voodoo. The hermetic nature of conservatism – its loyalty tests, its closed intellectual world where you get all your alleged facts from Fox News and the Heritage Foundation, the ‘wingnut welfare’ that ensures that defeated politicians always have a cushy job waiting at a think tank somewhere – always made it vulnerable to this kind of spin into policy craziness.

  37. paul wenum June 15, 2011 at 8:56 pm #

    No comment need be stated. Your post speaks for itself. Climate change was the subject I assume?

  38. Rob N. Hood June 16, 2011 at 9:43 am #

    Ah… too intellectual or deep for you? Perhaps too logical and rational to face?

  39. paul wenum June 16, 2011 at 9:13 pm #

    Yes, too deep for me. Don’t like BS. Deal in reality.

  40. Rob N. Hood June 17, 2011 at 8:03 pm #

    You mean shallow and inane reality?

  41. paul wenum June 17, 2011 at 8:17 pm #

    Ginrich is a fly speck on the radar in my opinion. Kissing up with Nancy P was the straw that broke the conservatives back. Reminds me of putting your finger in the wind. I don’t follow crowds, I look for leaders.

  42. Rob N. Hood June 18, 2011 at 9:52 am #

    I was of course referring to my post which is what I thought you were commenting on. My bad, I guess. I disagree that Newtie kissed up to any Dem. It’s the Dems that kiss up to the Right, unfortunately.

  43. paul wenum June 18, 2011 at 9:57 pm #

    Unfortunately both do but times are a changing. Watch 2012 it will be very interesting where this republic goes.

  44. Rob N. Hood June 22, 2011 at 11:20 am #

    One would hope it goes towards more democracy.

  45. paul wenum June 23, 2011 at 8:41 pm #

    Trust me it will. If not, we will not be on this site any longer.

  46. Rob N. Hood June 24, 2011 at 2:14 pm #

    What if I were to tell you that democracy is almost already gone in this country… then what would you say?

  47. paul wenum June 25, 2011 at 10:56 pm #

    Democracy is not gone. If people like you think/believe it is and continue in your left wing agenda, then we will have a major problem in this country. Then my friend, action, as always will speak louder than words.

  48. Rob N. Hood June 26, 2011 at 11:52 am #

    Oooohhhh… scary. Want to (try) and scare me or something odd like that? It’s the Right that is facilitating the break with democracy (with many on the Left unfortunately close behind). The Left is selling their souls much like the Right did a long time ago, all to keep up with the political game which is all about money now. Marx (no I’m not a Marxist) predicted the demise of capitalism in just this way. He was a wise man. But unfortunately most people don’t listen to wise men (or women). Their egos are generally too big for that, or they are too stupid, or both.

  49. paul wenum June 26, 2011 at 7:59 pm #

    You answered my original take on your thinking. You just confirmed what I’ve always said. You need say nothing further. Thank you.

  50. Rob N. Hood June 28, 2011 at 9:18 am #

    Your welcome. I’ve never tried to hide anything or play word games or fool anyone. It took you long enough to figure me out. If indeed you have, or could, in this extremely superficial format. But then again you are a genious or something so you could do that… congrats.

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