Somehow, the Earth is hotter than ever during the coldest winter since the 1970s. In the face of frigid world-wide temperature trends and mounting evidence that the Earth is entering a cooling phase, the pushers of man-made global warming theory are becoming more shrill with their warnings of runaway warming. Chris Field of the UN’s International Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) recently told a gathering of scientists in Chicago that the climate is heating up faster than scientists had previously predicted (seems that we hear that every year – can’t they ever get a prediction right?). “The consequence of that is we are basically looking now at a future climate that is beyond anything that we’ve considered seriously,” he said.
The more things stay the same, or even when warming seems to have gone into reverse, the more often we are inundated with statements like Field’s. Somehow, it’s always getting worse than predicted, and faster. If we took all these alarmist claims seriously and added them up, weÂ should probably expect 300 degree weatherÂ this June – Make that April, it’s accellerating faster than we thought.
Read more about Field’s laughably out-of-place alarmism at Reuters.
Ridiculous! These people are completely out of their minds. But this is really good news, because it shows how desperate they are getting.
On a comical note, doesn’t the picture on this post remind you of Popeye? I looked at that and my first thought was “ahgh ahg ahg ahg, I neegs me’ spinnigch!”
Oh yes ! This is what Alarmists are really good at since the Polls are showing a slippage in beliefs and urgency. Now they feel the need to strenthen their stories and scare Us more….for this is the only way they know how to react!
James Hansen has also become more shrill. Check this out. http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/02/has_nasas_hansen_finally_lost.html
Just when you think that the AGW nuts are losing their grip on things. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/first100days/2009/02/18/epa-expected-regulate-carbon-dioxide-time/ This is not good at all.
I was just expressing this same thought to my family last week. It seems absolutely idiotic to me that environmentalists would be screaming global warning when we’re having some of the coldest weather in years. My reasoning (which I recommend others try on their on) suggests they are eager, as always, to have some urgent crisis to use as a weapon of mass fear. I think fewer people would fall this BS if more of them took time to read and seek out information for themselves rather than swallowing the bite sized bits that are fed to them by self-serving media.
Having said that, I believe that if there are ways to minimize the amount of waste we discard and reuse as much as we can then we should. It is just good sense to not to be wasteful. If there are more efficient sources and uses for energy, we should use them. That is what technology has always been about. But we should not be beaten about the head with threats of impending doom just to make people recycle and by fuel efficient cars.
I appreciate what you do here. It is not easy to share opinions that run contrary to those that are popular. Keep exposing lies and keep up the good work.
The climate is nearing tipping points. Changes are beginning to appear and there is a potential for explosive changes, effects that would be irreversible, if we do not rapidly slow fossil-fuel emissions over the next few decades. As Arctic sea ice melts, the darker ocean absorbs more sunlight and speeds melting. As the tundra melts, methane, a strong greenhouse gas, is released, causing more warming. As species are exterminated by shifting climate zones, ecosystems can collapse, destroying more species.
The public, buffeted by weather fluctuations and economic turmoil, has little time to analyse decadal changes. How can people be expected to evaluate and filter out advice emanating from those pushing special interests? How can people distinguish between top-notch science and pseudo-science?
Those who lead us have no excuse – they are elected to guide, to protect the public and its best interests. They have at their disposal the best scientific organisations in the world, such as the Royal Society and the US National Academy of Sciences. Only in the past few years did the science crystallise, revealing the urgency. Our planet is in peril. If we do not change course, we’ll hand our children a situation that is out of their control. One ecological collapse will lead to another, in amplifying feedbacks.
They are being stupid because people does have feelings every time they go outdoors.The reality of cold weather is jarring and therefore slowly immunizing a growing number of people.
They are realizing that what AGW believers say are not squaring with reality.They can see and feel the cold weather just as easily as those stupid AGW believers do.But they see those increased heating bills.They see the larger snow packs.They see new ALL TIME state record lows get set the last 2 winters.
Right now I am dealing with large increase in electric heating bills of the last 2 months.Was over $220 2 months ago.During that very long below freezing weather spell.It was never above $150 before that month.
The really dumb part is that they CONTINUE to think CO2 is a strong driving greenhouse gas! In an atmosphere that has NO greenhouse conditions in it.So why do they persist in calling CO2 a “greenhouse” gas? Stupid maybe?
Hopefully Obama and his band of stupid AGW believers do not go far in damaging America over the CO2 silliness.
Rob! Once again you are wrong, wrong, wrong!
“As Arctic sea ice melts, the darker ocean absorbs more sunlight and speeds melting.”
Well I got some news for you about that, actually the NSIDC (National Snow and Ice Data Center) has news for you about that. It seems that their estimations of Arctic sea ice extent have been off by just a tad. If you consider 93,000 sq. miles a tad. http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/
So it may be true that IF there is less ice, that the oceans can absorb more heat and melt the permafrost yada yada yada. But what is happening, in the real world, is that there is MORE ice. NOT less.
Wanting something to be true does not make it so, Rob.
I’m sorry, that was 193,000 sq. miles not 93,000 sq. miles.
Which is like……………. a LOT more!
Sunsettommy: I think it is a mistake to call these people stupid. They are not stupid, far from it, a lot of them are highly educated. The problem is that what they have been tought is mostly Environmentalist Left wing propaganda. Unfortunately most institutions of higher learning, faculty and administration, have been overrun by Environmental wackos! And the Left wing agenda is interwoven and deeply intwined into every subject. The sad fact is that when a student goes to one of these schools, they believe everything that they are taught is the truth. Most don’t even consider for a second that they are being spoon-fed a one-sided world-view. And when they are presented with a view that is contrary to what they have been taught, they tend to get red in the face and spit a lot when they scream at you.
When you tell someone that AGW is a hoax, you are basically upsetting their apple cart. Some may come around if they are intellectually honest, but most will cling to what they have been taught. Which is; Humans are bad, and we are destroying mother Earth, and Capitalism is evil, and wind power is the future, and everyone should drive a Preus, and CO2 is a pollutant, and blah blah blah.
So, these people are not stupid……. They are misled and disinformed.
Here is the global warming argument as I see it, in light of cold temperatures and expanding ice sheets . . . .
Picture, if you will, the Earth as a pot of water on a stove. Global warming is the burner on which the pot sits. We turn on the burner, and observe the water freeze. Then we contend that the adding of all that heat caused it to freeze by transferring all the heat to the outside of the pot. . . .
Is there global warming? Yes, there was, during the warm phase of the PDO. Is there now global cooling? Yes – from decreased solar activity and the cold phase of the PDO. Is there climate change? If you mean changing recently from warm to cold? Yes, there is. If you mean climate change as coming out of the Dalton minimum? Yes, there was. If you mean it as something Mankind did? Then no.
“Sunsettommy: I think it is a mistake to call these people stupid. They are not stupid, far from it, a lot of them are highly educated. The problem is that what they have been tought is mostly Environmentalist Left wing propaganda.”
Highly educated people falling for easy to debunk AGW propaganda are indeed stupid.It is really easy to be skeptical.Which is the proper approach for credible scientists.With all that education.You would think they can recognize the obvious lies and distortions.What ever happened to looking at empirical data? But NOOO they fall for unverified climate models.Which are produced by the thousands!
I am a layman who never fell for the lies and distortions.Merely because I did some reading and being logical.Never needed all that education to recognize B.S. Now I am realizing that there is evidence that CO2 can not warm the atmosphere at all.Since most of the air can not absorb IR from the scanty CO2 molecules.
People who are part of the masses will be easily mislead.No matter how much education they have.It is willful blindness on the part of the masses is why we are in trouble today.Never a better time to be an INDIVIDUALIST than now.
Talk about morons, people that believe this site are the biggest morons on planet earth! Sorry, but you are.
I guess, once Florida is under water and New York City is the new Venice, you’ll change your tune. Not sure why you want this? Not sure why you think a weatherman in Ohio knows more than panels of the nation’s most impressive scientists.
I don’t blame you though. You cannot help that your scientific literacy levels are lower than that of chimpanzees. You don’t understand the basic premise of the Greenhouse Effect–which is a scientific principle, not something stirred up by the massive left-wing conspiracy.
You people sound about as smart as I’m sure the people who locked up Galileo did when he argued with the Catholic Church that the earth orbited the sun and not the other way around.
The worst part is that, apparently, to prove to you this is a real concern, whereas if a Doctor tells you not to eat mercury for some reason you believe it, no for this you won’t believe it until it’s too late and we’re all dead.
Personally, I don’t think that’s what God would have wanted. I don’t think he gave us this planet to destroy it.
Wow, I’m just still sitting here in shock at the shear audacity and malevolence expressed by people that run and fund and support this site.
To me, you are all global terrorists who should be rounded up, put on a ship and sent hurtling toward the sun. Then, maybe, you’d get the concept of the power of the sun’s heat.
Oh, and I’m sure you won’t publish my comment. It doesn’t quite fit with your right-wing, nut-job fringe lunatic scheme does it!!!!!! Freaks!
“To me, you are all global terrorists who should be rounded up, put on a ship and sent hurtling toward the sun. Then, maybe, youâ€™d get the concept of the power of the sunâ€™s heat.”
Actually, we do grap the enormity of the sun’s power. It seems to me that it is the adherants to AGW theory that don’t understand that the sun is by far the most powerful force in driving the Earth’s climate. Show me a way to control the sun’s power and maybe I could get on board with a global theromostat. Meanwhile, there’s nothing we can do about it so enjoy the ride. See here for more about the power of the sun: http://www.globalclimatescam.com/?p=210
Oh, and Iâ€™m sure you wonâ€™t publish my comment. It doesnâ€™t quite fit with your right-wing, nut-job fringe lunatic scheme does it!!!!!! Freaks!
Wow! Folks, this is the mind set of desperation. There are no facts here. There is no persuasive argument here. It’s attack, attack, attack. It’s pathetic.
I feel sorry for you. All this hate and vitriol must be eating you up inside. Honestly, you call for everyone that disagrees with you to be rounded up and put on a ship to be hurled into the Sun. You do understand that is calling for our deaths, right? Why don’t you just line us up and shoot us, and let our bodies fall into a large pit? Or better yet, you could gas us in a shower, then burn our bodies in large ovens. Wouldn’t that solve everything? Oh, and you forgot to call us Nazis.
Yet us, on this side of the debate, are just saying that you are wrong. We, as far as I can tell with my chimpanzee like intelligence, have never called for your deaths! We use facts, and data, from various sources to back up our arguments. Why does this enrage you?
Sunsettommy: We’ll have to agree to disagree on these points. I, like you, am a layperson and, after a very short period that I bought into AGW, did some digging and found a large volume of facts and data that refuted it. You’re right, it wasn’t hard.
I don’t want to argue about this with you because we are on the same side. And calling people stupid is not a persuasive argument. Please don’t lower yourself down to Notasuckerlikeyou’s or Rob N. Hood’s level (I have a suspicion that they are the same person).
I think facts and data are enough to win the argument. Just look how Notasuckerlikeyou has reacted.
“Talk about morons, people that believe this site are the biggest morons on planet earth! Sorry, but you are.”
Let’s cut to the case. The American people need a national televised debate by both sides on this global warming/cooling issue. We can sit and discuss the issue until we are blue in the face. Fact is, no debates have happened even though the offers have been made and only one side is being heard.
I say, get the 650+ climatologists that say it is a natural occurance debate Al Gore’s group that say we are the problem. Not on cable, but regular TV, Prime Time. Only then will the American public get informed on what we may or may not be facing. Screaming at each other here makes no sense. I say, “Bring it on and let the debates begin!” That said, Being the realist that I am, I highly doubt that it will ever happen, or will it? I hope I’m proven wrong. Quit the bickering and do some research! Remember, Ignorance is that you simply don’t know, stupidity is that no matter what, you will never understand.
Theres something I think you do not understand. As far as the proponents of AGW are concerned, there is no debating, the science is settled, and if you disagree with that you are a horrible person and should be herded onto a spaceship and hurled at the Sun.
Also there is at least one scientist who believes the debate itself is the problem.
As you can see I am not incapable of research. As a matter of fact, I believe what I believe as a direct result of research. And to boil down what I have learned from my research is that people who believe in AGW put all of their trust into the IPCC, James Hansen, and Al Gore. And all of their predictions come from computer climate modeling, and fudged weather station data.
Nope, no debates are going to happen anytime soon. But for those of us who care about this issue, pro or con, we have websites like this one where we can scream at each other to our hearts content. If you don’t like it, tough cookies!
Neil, You have it wrong. I believe climate change is a natural occurrance. Enough said? Let’s air it out with FACTS, not BS,
in the OPEN for all to see. Do YOU understand????? I don’t think I made my point about transparency clear enough did !? My opinion, Hansen is an idiot/profit maker as well as others. I believe Litzen (sic) Spencer etc. What say you???
Neil, checked your links. Been there done that. You and I both agree. Unfortunately, nobody (with any unbiased thinking) reads anymore. “Lemmings” I say. Again, let the public, (which I have my doubts reads other than People magazine), understand the seriousness of the consequences when Al Gore, Hansen et al, are proven wrong. I sincerely believe that it may be to late! I hope that I’m proven wrong.
in 1969 , the day after neil armstrong walked on the moon, it began to rain in southern new jersey.. and it rained for weeks.. virtually everyone there was convinced that people walking on the moon (for those of you who believe that) somehow interfered with the weather.. but as we know, it wasn’t raining everywhere that week..So while it is easy to find coincindinces of cold weather at inopportune times, I suggest you talk to somone who lives in southern Australia .They are experiencing their hottest and driest summer on record. And while the “lemmings” are pointing at an inconvient snow storm as “proof” in what they believe, the Australians sweat it out.. Wonder why the global warming deneyers are not convinced at the “proof” offered up by hurricanes–the 2008 season had a number of records broken for major hurricanes..
I’m just saying that they won’t debate. I, like you, wish they would. But I think they already know what the truth is….. it just doesn’t fit their agenda. Either that or they are in full denial because they may be incapable of admitting that they are wrong. I actually know a couple of people with that particular inability. Who knows?
That is about the most illogical argument I have ever heard. For crying out loud, using your own logic you can say the same thing about the two “proofs of global warming” that you have presented.
What you are giving us here is what is known as a circular argument. In other words, you are the intellectual equivalent to a dog chasing its own tail.
I would also like to know what you think a lemming is? Because it is the majority of people who are “walking over the cliff” when it comes to global warming. The minority are the ones who stop and question the validity of the AGW alarmists claims, not the other way around. And there is a growing mountain of evidence that the alarmists are wrong, that their predictions are false, and that their data is flawed.
Here are some questions you should be asking.
A: The alarmists said the polar ice caps will melt at an alarming rate, why have they not been melting, and in fact have more ice this year than last?
B: The alarmists say that when CO2 rises the temperatures will rise too, why have temperatures been going lower the last ten years even though CO2 has steadily increased?
C: Why do I trust Al Gore?
We are in total accord. They will/may finally understand when it affects them. That said, it may be to late. As stated, there is “natural” warming and cooling since the beginning of time. I’m an old outdoors guy and have seen it for years. My father was an aeronautical engineer and always stressed to us to believe 50% of what you read and 10% of what you hear. He always stressed that we always “fly speck” the facts, don’t base opinions on emotion. “Facts don’t lie, people do.” We were taught NOT to be lemmings, as posted before me. Later.
Paul: my dad always told me something along the same lines; Believe nothing you hear and only half of what you see.
I love this site; I would call myself a doubter and insist that I exercise my democratic right to question.
When any party get personal they have lost the argument and no one will take them seriously.
This winter was good for a few reasons; my milk froze on the door step, the ice popped out of the top telling me that ice has a greater mass than water. When it melted there was room in the bottle.
How can it be then that if/when the ice cap melts we can expect umpteen feet of sea level rise? I know, I know one is a land mass the other is a great big iceberg 4.5 km deep.
The doubt still exists. I read that they are drilling into the ice cap to determine what happened last time the ice cap melted.
What I want to know is did an extension at Heathrow cause it?
Or was it the aircraft circling for hours waiting for a slot that caused it?
Still, my kids built a snowman, after all the snow had disappeared the bulk of the snowman was still there melting slowly. As it got smaller I observed that the rate of melting accelerated. Does this sound familiar?
The glaciers have been melting for millions of years, as their mass becomes smaller their
ability to preserve its own temperature must surely diminish.
To all those who on here who are called alarmists, I prefer carers, have the bravery to ask
questions before insisting that you want to change my lifestyle.
Dennis, You just made my day. By the way, are you Jay? Thanks again!
It wasn’t so long ago that Russia and the USA had nuclear weapons of mass destruction and would have had no problem in using them. Now all of a sudden they want to save the planet from the it’s climate and it just so happens that the ordinary fools that pay their taxes are to blame and must pay the price.