Copenhagen's Dodged Bullet

sarah-palinModern men have lived through 20 sudden global warmings

By Pete DuPont

Al Gore said the other week that climate change is “a principle in physics. It’s like gravity. It exists.” Sarah Palin agreed that “climate change is like gravity,” but added a better conclusion: Each is “a naturally occurring phenomenon that existed long before, and will exist long after, any governmental attempts to affect it.”

Over time climates do change. As author Howard Bloom wrote in The Wall Street Journal last month, in the past two million years there have been 60 ice ages, and in the 120,000 years since the development of modern man, “we’ve lived through 20 sudden global warmings,” and of course this was before–long before–“smokestacks and tail pipes.”

In our earth’s history there has been both global warming and global cooling. In Roman times, from 200 B.C. to A.D. 600, it was warm; from 600 to 900 came the cold Dark Ages; more warming from 900 to 1300; and another ice age from 1300 to 1850. Within the past century, the earth has warmed by 0.6 degree Celsius, but within this period we can see marked shifts: cooling (1900-10), warming (1910-40), cooling again (1940 to nearly 1980), and since then a little warming. The Hadley Climatic Research Unit global temperature record shows that from 1980 to 2009, the world warmed by 0.16 degree Celsius per decade.

As for the impact of reducing global warming, Bjorn Lomborg, director of the Copenhagen Consensus Center, outlined in The Wall Street Journal that Oxfam concluded that if wealthy nations diverted $50 billion to climate change that “at least 4.5 million children would die and 8.6 million fewer people could have access to HIV/AIDS treatment.” And if we spent it on reducing carbon emissions? It would “reduce temperatures by all of one-thousandth of one degree Fahrenheit over the next hundred years.”

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50 Responses to Copenhagen's Dodged Bullet

  1. Rob N. Hood January 7, 2010 at 3:56 pm #

    Yes…! Keep attaching this face to your causes. A failed governor who was formally a small town mayor, as an Expert in just about Everything! Good idea!

    The media have been swamped with reports about the attempt to blow up Northwest Airlines Flight 253 on Christmas Day. When Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, now dubbed the “underwear bomber,” failed in his alleged attack, close to 300 people were spared what would have been, most likely, a horrible, violent end. Since that airborne incident, the debates about terrorism and how best to protect the American people have been reignited.

    Meanwhile, a killer that has stalked the U.S. public, claiming, by recent estimates, 45,000 lives annually—one dead American about every 10 minutes—goes unchecked. That’s 3,750 people dead—more than the 9/11 attacks—every month who could be saved with the stroke of a pen.

    This killer is the lack of adequate health care in the United States. Researchers from Harvard Medical School found in late 2009 that 45,000 people die unnecessarily every year due to lack of health insurance. Researchers also uncovered another stunning fact: In 2008, four times as many U.S. Army veterans died because they lacked health insurance than the total number of U.S. soldiers who were killed in Iraq and Afghanistan in the same period. That’s right: 2,266 veterans under the age of 65 died because they were uninsured.

    • Neil F. AGWD/BSD January 7, 2010 at 7:56 pm #

      In 2008, four times as many U.S. Army veterans died because they lacked health insurance than the total number of U.S. soldiers who were killed in Iraq and Afghanistan in the same period.

      That is ridiculous! I am a veteran so I know for a fact that if you can’t afford health insurance you can go to the VA hospital and get treatment for anything. For free!!!!!
      Without getting personal I am just going to say that is the stupidest thing I have ever heard anyone ever say.

      • Rob N. Hood January 15, 2010 at 8:25 am #

        Gee, Neil… uh, no offense taken… well some kinda.

  2. Dan January 7, 2010 at 4:30 pm #

    Gah! Not having health insurance kills people! HOW!? Show me the death certificate that says “Cause of death: Uninsured!” I assume you are referring to the paper, “Health Insurance and Mortaility in Adults.” The paper itself admits that uninsurance was associated with smoking, lack of excercise, tobacco and alcohol use. In other words, lifestyle choices. There is no causality proved by that paper – just a lot of guessing. Nobody is denied needed medical treatment in this country. Nobody! You’re really 50? There’s this little-known government program called the VA! VETERANS CAN’T BE UNINSURED (unless they choose to forego coverage)! If they died young, it was either due to (again) lifestyle choices or you have to blame the government-run health care system otherwise known as the Veterans Administration.

  3. paul wenum January 7, 2010 at 9:35 pm #

    Gentlemen, after that post I now really need a vacation. I cannot believe what I just read. Surreal is being nice.

  4. Rob N. Hood January 8, 2010 at 7:54 am #

    Even basic logic would tell you that the lack of health insurance causes deaths. It’s like a “Duh” moment here. Your responses are what is surreal.

    • Dan January 8, 2010 at 9:23 am #

      How? I don’t have insurance. Is my risk of death therefore higher? (by the way the mortality rate for adults is 100%) If I’m seriously sick, or injured, I go to a doctor. Other than that, I don’t and still wouldn’t if I carried health insurance. I think heart attacks and cancer and serious injuries are killing people, not a piece of paper. Are there any death certificates that say “Cause of death: uninsurance?”

    • Neil F. AGWD/BSD January 10, 2010 at 1:13 am #

      Rob, you just can’t help yourself. How exactly does that work? If someone goes to a hospital with a serious injury or illness, are they turned away? Are they thrown out on their keester? We all know the answer to that is no. They get treated. You should really do some research on this because you are really making a fool out of yourself with your silly inane comments. Just like you have repeatedly made a fool out of yourself on global warming and climate change issues.
      I think you should be questioning your own thought processes, and sources of information, because you were wrong about global warming and you were just as sure about that as you are about this medical BS.

  5. paul wenum January 8, 2010 at 10:22 pm #

    Dan, I really like that response! Bye the way, I like my car insurance. Using the Health Insurance analogy, If I cancel I have to get it through the government and if I don’t get insurance I’m fined and if I don’t pay the fine, I go to jail? That is in the bill the Democrats are proposing/voting on behind “closed doors.”
    Now that is “Transparency” at its best! “Thank Nancy.” I like what I have. Don’t tell me or anyone else what they think they need. That my friends is the bottom line.

  6. Lone Wolf January 9, 2010 at 8:12 am #

    Maybe us skeptics are wrong.

    US Weather Bureau Report

    The Arctic ocean is warming up, icebergs are growing scarcer and in some places the seals are finding the water too hot, according to a report to the Commerce Department yesterday from Consul Ifft, at Bergen, Norway. Reports from fishermen, seal hunters and explorers, he declared, all point to a radical change in climate conditions and hitherto unheard-of temperatures in the Arctic zone. Exploration expeditions report that scarcely any ice has been met with as far north as 81 degrees 29 minutes. Soundings to a depth of 3,100 meters showed the gulf stream still very warm. Great masses of ice have been replaced by moraines of earth and stones, the report continued, while at many points well known glaciers have entirely disappeared. Very few seals and no white fish are found in the eastern Arctic, while vast shoals of herring and smelts, which have never before ventured so far north, are being encountered in the old seal fishing grounds.

    OH, never mind, we’re still right, the report above was from November 2, 1922 as reported by the AP and published in The Washington Post. Sounds like it was warmer then than it is now.


    • mike January 9, 2010 at 10:03 pm #

      it’s below freezing in Florida. just a fact. Maybe all the green meanies have done such a great job we’re in an ice age. Damn global cooling.

    • Neil F. AGWD/BSD January 10, 2010 at 3:11 pm #

      I like it!

  7. paul wenum January 9, 2010 at 8:31 pm #

    Sounds like an El Nina

  8. ade January 10, 2010 at 5:48 am #

    The truth is out there! Climate change is a scam to make money and tax you

  9. Rob N. Hood January 10, 2010 at 4:40 pm #

    Well, we will find out either way relatively soon (2-5 years or so). We as a species are not going to be able to agree on anything significant globally, which is what happened at Copenhagen. That serendipitous leak of the stolen and misconstrued emails didn’t hurt any though…

    It’s probably too late to do anything anyway, even if a miracle occurred and made people become intelligent, per the brain’s capability. It probably is some kind of “regular” and natural occurance. But it might be one of the bigger ones, and yet, yes humans will survive in one form or another. You are all right about that.

    In the meantime we will continue to kill each other for resources and when it eventually comes to water shortages, the killing will probably make what we are doing now seem like a cake walk. So be it. While divine humans are also vicious when cornered, just like any animal.

    • Dan January 11, 2010 at 9:29 am #

      Misconstrued by you and your committed greenies, perhaps. What don’t you understand about the CRU emails and what do you think people are misconstruing? I’ll help you understand.

  10. Rob N. Hood January 11, 2010 at 10:12 am #

    Settle down Dan. Your side won. I think so anyway. Obama could try and use the power Bush’s presidency has made available to do something, but he seems to be a rather weak Pres, so I wouldn’t worry so much. The Dems are always weak, they play a certain role in this dysfunctional system. Dysfunctional for us, but not for Them. Keep an eye on the Cap and Trade stuff, they probably haven’t totally given up on that scam. What else can you do? I beleive “climate change” has reached its peak for the US public, unless or until something bad starts to happen as predicted. We are like frogs in the kettle, warming up slowly so we don’t really notice the changes. It’s ironic that the political process in this country over the last 30 years is doing the same thing. Maybe climate change WAS/IS a convenient diversion (in addition to the “War on Terror”- it keeps the rabble occupied and fighting each other and not focusing on the evil elite politics that is gradually becoming more and more authoritarian (yes, by the Repubs too). We are doing what every other great power has done through out history. We have learned nothing from history, and we as the leading world power will be history, just like all the rest. But that could be a good thing, I believe. Let some one else do it for a few decades. Maybe then we can focus on our own needs, and stop being the Big Cop around the globe, spending our children’s future on unnecessay wars.

    • Neil F. AGWD/BSD January 13, 2010 at 9:18 pm #

      It’s just a flesh wound!!!!! Come back here, I’ll bite off your kneecaps !!!!!

      • Rob N. Hood January 14, 2010 at 8:54 am #


  11. Cubanshamoo January 12, 2010 at 1:46 am #

    Great!!! I am glad to see that even Sarah Palin (a politician) shows more common sense that Richard Dawkins, the British scientist who attack christians for their beliefs while consider himself a “wise” supporter of the new Global Warming religion.
    Poor GW believers!!!!

  12. paul wenum January 13, 2010 at 2:01 am #

    It never ceases to amaze me of the excuses or predictions of ones proven wrong. It is like an addiction that will never cease. They continually need their “fix” in fear and misinformation. Never changes does it.

  13. Rob N. Hood January 14, 2010 at 9:02 am #

    Ah yes, that “genuis” Sarah Palin. She knows everything, not unlike our resident genius Paul. However I would predict that Paul would clean her clock if IQ numbers were compared. You people do love the dummies. Reagan, Dubya, Arnold (can’t spell his last name), Sonny Bono, Boehner, Mc Cain, etc. etc. You don’t like your rulers to be smarter than you. Dumb is dumb, evil is evil, and smart is smart. Even though Smart can be Evil too (Bush the elder, Cheney, Nixon, etc.) I prefer my chosen delegates to be smart. But hey, that’s just crazy me I guess.

  14. Dan McGrath January 14, 2010 at 11:10 am #

    Obviously, Palin doesn’t know everything. Nobody does, but she does know right from wrong, has solid common-sense and wants a better America for ourselves and future generations. She’s also willing to stand up and do the work. Palin talks plainly and sounds like he’s from Fargo (Didn’t realize Alaskans had a Minnesota accent before Palin came on the scene), but don’t mistake that for stupidity. As governor, she cleaned house in Alaska, going after corruption and malfeasance.

    We don’t like RULERS at all! That’s the point! In self-governance, the governors are going to sound like one of us – not some elitist snob who isn’t really all that smart, but like to SOUND smart and talk down to the sheeple.

  15. Rob N. Hood January 14, 2010 at 1:32 pm #

    Well, Dan, it sure sounds like you, uh, like Saruh (wink). Plus this gem from you- “She’s also willing to stand up and do the work.” Ummmm, let’s see…..She quit as Governor after less than two years… In (this) reality she is none of the things that you say she is. She is PRETENDING. Why is that so obvious to some and not to others?? Speaking of obvious, you’re very correct about it being so that she doesn’t know everything. IT’S VERY OBVIOUS.

    And if you think I’m an elitist snob, you should see the small old home I could afford and live in. And neither of my two jobs are very glamorous or highly paid. When I think of the Moral Majority (sorry- can’t remember the new name) THAT is when “elitist snob” comes to my mind. Just sayin’.

    And I just remember what someone else said about Libertarians. He dismissed it immediately as an answer to our problems by saying: “they are absurd.” I couldn’t have said it better myself. Why don’t you join the modern rational age and partner up with people who really do have constructive ideas regarding governance and monetary policy, etc. etc. It’s just WAAAAAAAYYYYY too easy to sit there and say “we don’t like Rulers.” You sound like a child in school in more ways than one… get it? hahahaha I know not very funny, but truly Libertarians do sound a little too much like 5 years olds throwing a temper tantrum, most of the time. Should we raise kids that way? Just let thm do what they want all the time? School? Schmool. Let them decide if they want to go, same with the doctor… Don’t force ’em to do anything…

  16. Dan McGrath January 14, 2010 at 1:44 pm #

    Sounds more to me like you are the one who wants to remain a juvenile, replacing your parents with a nanny government. Grow up and do it for yourself. Government dependents neither appreciate or even understand freedom, why we’re a free nation, why the founders cast off the notion of a ruling class and nobility, and how that foundation made us the most prosperous and envied nation on Earth.

  17. Rob N. Hood January 14, 2010 at 2:06 pm #

    It’s a matter of degrees obviously. The average liberal wants more freedom than the average Repub. You Libertarians are an exception, to put it mildly. I hit a sore spot with you. You can’t admit that your panacea is ridiculously unworkable in real life. You are absurdly black and white, that is where most of my criticism comes from for Libertarianism. Only in the Stone Age did humans you live that way. To believe that you have any kind of chance to achieve such a … I don’t even know what to call it… a pipe dream, a way life, a cult, a commune, a “government”?? … How can a Libertarian government/county even be called a “government”?? What would you call it??? Libertarians truly are absurd. Do you understand that that is a pretty accurate way to describe what other people think of “it” if they do at all ?? Doesn’t that give you some pause about what it is you really want to accomplish, and that perhaps you would then want to modify it a bit, so as to even try realistically to make some kind of actual progress and something that makes sense to more people than just the cult-like few? I really want to know.

  18. paul wenum January 15, 2010 at 1:25 am #

    The average liberal wants more entitlements like you, Robbie Boy! When did working for a living change? In the real world, it has not. In your world, it has. I pity you my friend. Recommend you start a business or write a book called Tearing Down America’s Values by a True Liberal.” You won’t have to work two jobs any longer. You can retire as an “elitist.!” I’m sure you would love it when the tables are turned wouldn’t you.

  19. Rob N. Hood January 15, 2010 at 8:28 am #

    Ah, no Paul, I mean yes Paul, I mean…. well I don’t really know how to answer that! Now my brain hurts!

  20. Rob N. Hood January 15, 2010 at 8:31 am #

    Ok, wait. I finally figured it out! I think you people are crazy, and you think people like me are crazy. Let’s all just forget the whole thing, and take a long vacation. Uh… but not together, ok?

  21. paul wenum January 16, 2010 at 2:04 am #

    Yes vacations are fine. Been virtual with my office daily called “working”. Work is good when earned not when somebody doesn’t work and everything is handed to them with no effort on their part. Now that is a vacation! Must be nice.

  22. Rob N. Hood January 16, 2010 at 8:54 am #

    What are you trying to say? You work hard and I don’t? Really?

  23. paul wenum January 17, 2010 at 1:02 am #

    You seem to work extremely hard in pushing your liberal agenda. Damn, Alinsky is smiling down on you.

  24. Rob N. Hood January 17, 2010 at 8:53 am #

    A simple question based on your post. That’s all. I don’t like hypocrisy, and so I sometimes feel impelled call it out when I see it.

  25. Rob N. Hood January 18, 2010 at 2:31 pm #

    I would love it if Saruh ran for President, again. Obama would have a very easy win. She’s out there for the money. Quit her real job for a book contract which is probaly losing money for the publisher. But she got paid, million or two, or three, I can’t remember. She’s just a greedy quitter.

  26. paul wenum January 19, 2010 at 3:02 am #


  27. Rob N. Hood January 21, 2010 at 10:15 am #

    You deny reality?! How convenient for you.

  28. paul wenum January 22, 2010 at 1:53 am #

    I deny people that hate for hates sake and seem to do so for the love of it.

  29. Rob N. Hood January 22, 2010 at 4:23 pm #

    It’s not hate though- I never said I hated Saruh. Even if I did, maybe I have a reason for doing so. A valid reason or not, and that is all relative, right? Hate is just an emotion, it can come and go, unless it becomes an obsession. Why you often ascribe things is nonsensical, and just a way to shut down a debate/discussion.

  30. paul wenum January 23, 2010 at 5:29 am #

    When hate is involved, any true discourse ceases to exist. A hateful mind is always ready to disavow the truth even though proven wrong. Hate, my friend will bury you in the long run.

  31. Taxachusetts January 25, 2010 at 7:59 am #

    Rob N., you are a hoot! I love watching you squirm at the mention of Sarah … it tells me that she is the one that you fear. Scott Brown was just elected in Massachusetts and is very similar to her in many ways. Do you think that he is “Dumb” also? I hope so, as it will bespeak of an era of “Hope” for this country. Is it that you are intimidated by intelligent, beautiful women? Would Sarah appeal to you if she looked more like Hillary or Margaret Thatcher? You attempt to present yourself as “Informed” … try reading Sarah’s book (I know that it will hurt) and then implying that she is dumb. Go ahead, do your research.

  32. Taxachusetts January 25, 2010 at 8:07 am #

    “I would love it if Saruh ran for President, again.”

    Rob N., Sarah never ran for president by the way. Do you get your “Facts” on global warming from the same source?

  33. Paul Wenum January 25, 2010 at 9:23 pm #

    Good comeback Taxachusetts! I sometimes question people that can’t spell right, “Saruh.” Oh well, been there done that as well. Remember November, 2010 is coming soon.

  34. Rob N. Hood January 27, 2010 at 3:52 pm #

    Owwww! Good one….NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Do you not remember her going ROGUE??????????????!!!!!!!!!!! She herself even titled her stupid book “Going Rogue”…………… REMEMBER ???????????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!! APPARENTLY NOT… And McLame is sooooo old that well, it WAS BASICALLY LIKE SHE WAS RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT. You people really do have SMALL tiny brains don’t you????????

    Answer: yes, yes you do…

  35. Rob N. Hood January 27, 2010 at 3:54 pm #

    Saruh, as in uhhh, I don’t know the answer to the basic question and so “I’m” going to make up some home-spun lame BS to cover my stupidity. Get it? Probably you still don’t.

  36. Taxachusetts January 28, 2010 at 10:23 am #

    Rob N.,
    O.K., so you are a student of Alinsky. According to Alinsky, the main job of the “Organizer” is to bait an opponent into reacting. “The enemy properly goaded and guided in his reaction will be your major strength.” Note in particular rule#5. ( Rule 5: Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon. It’s hard to counterattack ridicule, and it infuriates the opposition, which then reacts to your advantage.) This is such a typical strategy of someone who hasn’t any facts to back-up what they say. By using these tactics, you are demeaning your intelligence… your credibility. Do yourself a favor and ACTUALLY research things before you make such pronouncements. Sarah Palin couldn’t give a darn about what you think about her, nor do I. In fact, I pray that there are MANY more of you out there! When the time comes (And it IS coming as witnessed by the election of Scott Brown in Massachusetts), it will be so nice to watch your astonishment when the “Dumb” gain control over your life. Cheers!

  37. paul wenum January 29, 2010 at 11:28 pm #

    Thank you. We all needed that Taxachusetts. Nice to see that you have read Alinsky. A real treat isn’t he? Good response. Love it. Keep it up!

  38. Taxachusetts February 4, 2010 at 7:28 am #

    I guess that Rob N. went home to study.

  39. paul wenum February 10, 2010 at 1:37 am #

    He took a sabbatical.

  40. Taxachusetts February 18, 2010 at 9:31 am #

    Paul, what do you think about this article?
    Sarah Palin’s photo at the top brought this to mind.

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