Taxpayer-Subsidized Nissan Leaf Fails Real-Life Test

nissan-leaf-electric-vehicleBy Paul Chesser

On Monday NLPC’s Mark Modica smartly called into question Consumer Reports’ sudden change in opinion about the electric hybrid Chevy Volt from a vehicle that they once believed “doesn’t seem to make a lot of sense,” to one the publication recommends. The next day, however, CR delivered an online review of the major all-electric vehicle on the U.S. market “the Nissan Leaf ” and while not intended to be scathing, the account given by reviewer Liza Barth makes the car sound so unappealing, she should have panned it outright.

I wish I could reproduce her entire account here without a charge of plagiarism, to detail exactly what a turkey the Leaf is, so make sure you follow the link to Barth’s assessment. And while giving somewhat a nod of approval in a late September review based upon CR’s very controlled facility testing, Barth’s real-life experience told the true story.

Her test of the vehicle was over the course of a long weekend, beginning on a Thursday evening. On her Friday morning commute from her New Jersey home to CR’s Yonkers headquarters which she said normally includes a 33-mile ride that incorporates the Tappan Zee Bridge over the Hudson River. She already suffered a case of range anxiety. “So,” Barza wrote, “I opted to travel fewer miles and pay the $12 toll over the George Washington Bridge and another $2.25 over the Henry Hudson Bridge.” Ouch.

Barza contended that she and her kids enjoyed the Leaf and had fun driving it, but apparently only so long as she traveled no farther than the corner store (or an equivalent distance). Then she and her husband planned an evening dinner date, so she plugged the Leaf in during the afternoon for five hours (isn’t that an entire afternoon?), which she said only raised the range from 25 miles to 75 miles. “I wasn’t confident we would make it there and back to our dinner location, which was 60 miles round trip,” Barza recounted. So the Leaf could not transport them for the evening.

Read the rest at National Legal and Policy Center.

87 Responses to Taxpayer-Subsidized Nissan Leaf Fails Real-Life Test

  1. Joe November 10, 2011 at 9:50 pm #

    Who woulda thunk? Duh, I like my SUV!!

    • 'merican November 11, 2011 at 1:45 pm #

      Derp!

  2. leptoquark November 11, 2011 at 3:37 pm #

    Don’t forget to read the reader comments at the end of Barth’s CR review. They’re better than the post itself.

  3. Rob N. Hood November 11, 2011 at 6:07 pm #

    The above article, that much that is posted at least, is in no way an indictment against this vehicle. I don’t know about the rest of the article, but the above indicates nothing, absolutely nothing, against it. As Joe states above… Duh.

    • NEIL F. AGWD/BSD November 12, 2011 at 12:37 am #

      Did you read the rest of the article? That’s why the link is posted.

      • Rob N. Hood November 17, 2011 at 5:43 pm #

        BTW-EVERYTHING is tax-payer subsidized. Welcome to reality folks.

        • NEIL F. AGWD/BSD November 19, 2011 at 7:23 pm #

          Everything? How do you figger that?

  4. Rob N. Hood November 12, 2011 at 8:42 am #

    No I didn’t and just said so. When I tried, the link didn’t work. But I made it clear what I read and that is what I commented on.

  5. Rob N. Hood November 12, 2011 at 10:17 am #

    I did read it all finally. Yes, it sure sounds bad. Then again, who sponsored the piece, what is the website’s agenda, etc. are valid questions. Do you always attribute credibility to info that quickly? Not with AGW you didn’t.

    • NEIL F. AGWD/BSD November 12, 2011 at 2:53 pm #

      Interesting questions. I just wonder how much you apply those queries to things you have posted from buzzflash. These are the things I ask when you do. But it’s funny that they are not valid questions when I ask them of you. In fact what would you say if my answer was that it doesn’t matter who said it, it’s that it was said is all that matters?

      • NEIL F. AGWD/BSD November 14, 2011 at 9:23 pm #

        Can’t come up with a logical reasonable explaination for that one can you? Or have you just opted to wait for the subject to change? I’m surprised you have not attempted a redirect yet.

        • Rob N. Hood November 16, 2011 at 5:19 pm #

          Can’t you answer a question without reverting to diversion? Guess not.

          • NEIL F. AGWD/BSD November 19, 2011 at 7:24 pm #

            You are beginning to bore the hell out of me.

  6. Joe November 12, 2011 at 11:33 pm #

    Neil, you know, no matter what you say to this Hood entity that you are wrong or will be corrected with false statements. It’s like hitting your head against the wall until there is no feeling left. Some what like reading this guy Hood posts. His “logic and reasoning” (his words) is beyond comprehension, at least not in his world wherever that exists. Don’t let it bother you. It does not bother me. I must say, I actually find his posts amusing. He never answers a direct question nor ever will. We must Live with it. It apparent that he has an agenda that you, I and others will never comprehend. Haven’t since I have been on this site.

    • NEIL F. AGWD/BSD November 12, 2011 at 11:45 pm #

      Well Joe I think you may be unaware of the history behind what I said in my last post. RNH has at many different times posted things that he copies from a socialist progressive website called buzzflash without posting the source. And when we have asked similar questoins about his posts he would say that it didn’t matter who said it, what’s important is what is said. So that was just me throwing that back in his face is all. I’m not bothered by it, in fact I was smiling when I wrote it!

    • Rob N. Hood November 15, 2011 at 5:20 pm #

      It’s funny Joe cuz that’s exactly how it feels talking to you guys. AND I find YOUR posts amusing (and a little sad too though).

      • NEIL F. AGWD/BSD November 15, 2011 at 9:45 pm #

        That’s exactly how it feels talking to you guys? Really? Let’s see. Hmmm. I’ll read a post from you that is essentially a rant against Republicans or Consevatives, and I’ll wonder where it comes from so I do a search for it on the web and find it comes from some lefty nutjob that you hold in such high esteem that you neglect to post the source, then I’ll post the source for your comment for you and you’ll say it doesn’t matter who says it, it’s that it was said is all that matters. Wow that just captures the essence of how it feels when you read one of our posts? The difference between our posts and yours is that, well I’ll speak for myself, I can back up everything I say. I take the time to look at the source to see if it is trustworthy. You on the other hand will post a story that says coservatives eat babies and spit in your food when you aren’t looking. And you’ll just throw it out there. Have you ever posted a comment that you actually took the time to find out if it was true or not?

  7. Joe November 13, 2011 at 10:34 pm #

    Excellent. I’m corrected. Appreciate it. What is it? Buzzflash? He must be a contributor.

  8. Joe November 13, 2011 at 10:40 pm #

    My God Neil, it is like a far Left Linkedin! No wonder we have problems. I could not believe the lies I read. Oh well, freedom of speech I say.

    • NEIL F. AGWD/BSD November 13, 2011 at 11:20 pm #

      Yeah, I couldn’t take too much of it myself.

  9. NEIL F. AGWD/BSD November 14, 2011 at 11:50 pm #

    My opinion on electric vehicles is that if you want one, buy one. I don’t want one, so it is unlikely that I would buy one of my own volition. I like to drive down roads I have never been on before, and being a resident of the twin cities for 40 of my 45 years of existance means that there are very few roads within 100 miles that I have not been on before. So for me if I want to go find a new road I have to go at least 100 miles away to find it. And that right there is one major reason I would not buy an electric vehicle. Now if they were to develop one that had a battery that held an effective charge for at least 250 miles, I might think about it. But there are other reasons too that I still probably would not. One of them being that the source for the electricity is power from your house, and will be a very large part of your utilities bill. And if the environleftalists have their way and get rid of fossil fueled power generation say hello to massive prices for electricity and rationed power because a lack of supply. There are other reasons but I will stop there in the interest of brevity.

  10. Rob N. Hood November 15, 2011 at 5:18 pm #

    You are a paragon if not a virtuoso of right-wing rationality and logic. I said it before but it merits repeating. If it were up to you guys we’d all still be living in cases. Although I know a few outdoorsy guys that would love that, but still, you get my point… I hope.

    • NEIL F. AGWD/BSD November 15, 2011 at 6:59 pm #

      I don’t recall ever living in a case. I know you meant caves. It just amazes me that anyone could come to that conclusion based on what I said. It is a total mischaracterization of what “we” think. How is it going backwards to not want an electric vehicle? Your mistake is thinking that electric vehicles are a move forward. It might be a move forward at some time in the future but right now the technology is not developed well enough to replace what we have. They don’t have the range, they don’t have a cheap energy source, they just don’t have the value or the appeal. They can not do the work that the internal combustion engines do right now. And until they can, it will not be able to replace existing technology. Maybe you should do some research into it instead of shooting off hyperbole. If you are for electric vehicles why don’t you make an argument for them?

  11. Joe November 15, 2011 at 11:30 pm #

    Neil, I assume Mr. hood does not own one? Wonder why? Talk is cheap. I, like you, love to simply get in my vehicle no matter what brand and go “west young man” with no motel awaiting nor power station. Have done road runs for years. Can you imagine stopping at a farm house asking for a charge? The grid is not ready for electric cars. unless you live 25-50 miles away and wish to charge every day for 6-24 hours. This Hood guy is reading Obama’s script as well as Chu’s. Who, by the way may be missing after the investigation on Solyndra debacle is fully know to all. Chu was, in my opinion, part and parcel to it’s inception and eventual later demise. Have no problem with progress just don’t tell me what to drive or how far, where did I go, etc. Bring on the new motorized vehicles for which I have no problem. Just don’t have you, me and the general public bare the cost of your alleged invention with subsidies. No risk out of your pocket, no reward. Ask any entrepeneur and they will tell you the same. When you have “skin in the game” you work harder than pontificating on what you would do with no sweat on your end Mr. Hood!! Just on your comments you have no game, just theory. Correct?

  12. Rob N. Hood November 16, 2011 at 5:31 pm #

    “A total mischaracterization.” Wow, how quickly we hit a sore spot and how quickly we are to become defensive. Conservatives are …. well… gosh darnit conservative. !!!!! That is what and who you are. People like you guys have been against virtually all progressive, i.e. new stuff, since the beginning of time. That is who you are. Denying that is all well and good, but you’ve proven it over and over again on this site in many different ways. You can deny and feign and bloviate all you want, and it won’t change that. Only a broad mind, logic, and reason can change any of it. And Joe- please look up the word pontificate, then look at your post….. Oh and Neil, I beleive I stated the Volt is an excellent car, i.e. I am “for” it and any other thing that has merit, new or old for that matter. What more do you want than that???? Why do I have to repeat myself here over and over again, only to have you re-ask the same questions or make the same points…??? Because you like to PRETEND I am avoiding something, or dodging something or etc etc etc…. that’s why.

    • NEIL F. AGWD/BSD November 16, 2011 at 7:37 pm #

      As if! You really don’t understand what progressive means. Please explain to me how electric vehicles are an advancement. There is nothing new about electric vehicles. What are the advantages of electric vehicles over internal combustion engine vehicles? It is cheaper to charge them during off peak hours now. But what about when more and more people start owning them? I’ll tell you what will happen. There will be a shift to peak usage once there is an increase in the number of people charging them. The power companies will raise the rates as more and more power is required during the so called off peak times. In fact they may come up with a second peak usage period for the overnight charging. And then, what about if the environmentalist movement to completely do away with fossil fuels is successful? Do you really think there will be the capacity from so called green energy sources to keep up with the demand for more and more people charging their cars overnight? If you do you are dreaming. What you will see is rationing and rolling blackouts. Mark my words.

    • NEIL F. AGWD/BSD November 16, 2011 at 9:52 pm #

      You say you are for them but you don’t say why you are for them. And if you think what I’m saying has no merit I would like to know why you think it has no merit. What you do is insult people you disagree with without giving any reasons for it. For example above you say that “People like you guys have been against virtually all progressive, i.e. new stuff, since the beginning of time.” Which is complete BS BTW. If that were true I would not have a computer, or a dishwasher, or a refrigerator, or even a car! I mean that is absurd on it’s face. I love new technology but electric vehicles ARE NOT NEW TECHNOLOGY!!!!! And the same reasons that they did not catch on back when they were invented (which was in the 1830’s! Thats about 180 freakin years ago. How progressive is a 180 year old idea that has not caught on yet?) Those same reasons still hold true today. The only “new” technology in them is the battery designs, and they still have nowhere near the range of the internal combustion engine. Not even close. You really need to do some good research because you obviously have no idea of what you’re talking about, and it makes you sound like an idio*.

  13. Joe November 16, 2011 at 10:12 pm #

    Thank you Neil, you made our point well known. He never does have an answer does he? Imagine how much coal et al it would take to fuel the electric cars and yet Obama wants them banned as well as holding off on the pipeline from Canada until AFTER the 2012 election? Canada is now looking to Chins to be their partner? Thanks Obama! Go figure. Of course if your only job was a “community organizer pre-president?” Believe we know the answer. enough said.

    • NEIL F. AGWD/BSD November 17, 2011 at 12:05 am #

      The one thing that really gets me is that if power consumption rises due to EV charging from a growing number of people, what are the power companies going to do? Are they going to keep the power production levels the same? No of course not. They will raise production to meet demand. And once it reaches a certain threshold they will have no choice but to raise rates because they will have to hire more people to keep up with demand, increase their supply of fuel, and cover the costs of higher production i.e. maintenece, and wear & tear on equipment. People like or friend RNH have no concept of this. They think it’s all static, and all they have to do to increase production is slide a lever up a notch. But the situation is incredibly dynamic and what they have to do to increase production requires many extra manhours, and the the wear & tear on equipment increases to a much higher level. Which all have costs associated with them. And those costs will be passed on to the consumer. And then if anyone thinks “green energy” is ever going to meet that kind of rising demand, they are living in la la land.

  14. Rob N. Hood November 17, 2011 at 5:46 pm #

    As if! Yes, you are right Neil, as always…. I don’t know what progressive means….. thank you for setting me straight. What would we do without you? Oh, what would we do…?! Oh I know, we’d ask Joe, the brainiac. Enuf said. The total brain power of the two of you could light a bulb!

    • NEIL F. AGWD/BSD November 19, 2011 at 6:43 am #

      For someone who prides himself on logic and reasoning, you shure do sound downright childish.

  15. Joe November 17, 2011 at 9:40 pm #

    Takes Coal to light a bulb. Remember?

  16. Rob N. Hood November 18, 2011 at 5:33 pm #

    That… or nuclear power, or hyrdaulic, or switch grass, or solar, or wind or a guy pedaling a bike ala OWS… But, yes Joe… coal…. go sleep now little boy and dream of sweet things…

    • NEIL F. AGWD/BSD November 18, 2011 at 7:01 pm #

      Have you nothing other than insults to offer?

      • Rob N. Hood November 19, 2011 at 8:28 am #

        No Neil it is not- as you pretend not to have noticed, I offered quite an obvious rebuttle to the previous biased myopia. How is it you don’t see that, and only the “insult” of “little boy”. I have been called boy on this site almost from the fist moment I began posting. I didn’t notice your rightous displeasure with that…. there’s a word for this you know.

  17. Joe November 18, 2011 at 10:24 pm #

    That’s his only game in town. Small town I must say. Insults are quite common to a very left wing liberal. Simply ask them. I’m certain they will tell you that you are racist, homophobic, no “logic or reasoning” et al. Will never change but they try to change the subject at hand with insults.

  18. Rob N. Hood November 19, 2011 at 8:33 am #

    And you do not attempt insults red Joe? Really? Wow, how adult you are, or at least very forgetful. I have yet to call anyone here racist or homophobic, at least in a long while, and only do so when it pertinent or otherwise obvious. As for a lack of logic and reasoning that is another matter. If we cannot point out “truths” as we see them then what is the point of it all, not to mention having a site such as this in the first place? Or are your “truths” the only game in town? If so, again, what is the point of having any discourse at all? Is that what you would prefer- no discourse?

    • NEIL F. AGWD/BSD November 20, 2011 at 10:33 am #

      “I have yet to call anyone here racist or homophobic, at least in a long while” But it is what you think of us even though you have not said it recently. Our memories may be longer than you think…. or hope.

  19. Joe November 19, 2011 at 7:55 pm #

    Your usual answer as always. With you there is no true discourse.

  20. Rob N. Hood November 20, 2011 at 10:48 am #

    Neil- is that any way to converse on an adult level? In fact, it has been good ol’Joe here who has been calling me a racist for no apparent reason other than his own delusions. When I call someone something I ALWAYS have a legitimate reason to do so, i.e. based on reality and attributed DIRECTLY to the offender. Now all that may not mean much to you, or you can pretend it doesn’t but your credibility (which this site desperatgely needs) is on the line so step carefully. Or not- it’s up to you to be the main guardian of your own credibility. Joe has forfeited his some time ago- and so much like his doppelganger, Paul W. I will no longer attempt any discourse with that entity.

    • NEIL F. AGWD/BSD November 20, 2011 at 3:58 pm #

      Is that my credibility with you? Or with other readers of this site? Cause if it is my credibility with you, that’s about as important to me as a pimple on an alien’s butt. As for other reeaders on this site, well, that is for them to determine, not you. Besides, when have I ever had any credibility with you? Never, that’s when.

  21. Joe November 20, 2011 at 10:32 pm #

    Thank you Neil. Well said.

  22. Rob N. Hood November 21, 2011 at 4:57 pm #

    Wow. Anger, denial, and histrionics. Nothing new here… except well, Joe THANKS you… for what I’m not sure, maybe for covering for his race-baiting and make-believe Left wing naughtiness….??

    • NEIL F. AGWD/BSD November 21, 2011 at 6:28 pm #

      I’m not angry. I’m just saying it like it is. Are you angry? Because if you are I don’t care.

  23. Joe November 21, 2011 at 10:54 pm #

    Hey, a racist is a racist when called out. Just ask anyone that is a republican or a member of the Tea Party that did nothing to deserve the chastising statements they never made. How do you argue a negative? Simple, you call them a racist based upon their comments like Hood. He’s a racist based upon his comments according to the left When did Hood come full circle? Must be his politics or is he no longer a racist? Which is it Hood? Are you?

    • NEIL F. AGWD/BSD November 22, 2011 at 7:00 am #

      Have you noticed that after all of this RNH has yet to say why he likes electric cars?

      • Rob N. Hood November 23, 2011 at 5:18 pm #

        They don’t use gas…. I thought this concept was obvious, but my bad.

        • NEIL F. AGWD/BSD November 23, 2011 at 7:00 pm #

          Ok. Good. You’ve actually answered a question! Hope you didn’t rupture something doing it. But that’s it? They don’t use gas is the only reason you like them? Do you not like gas because of the CO2 produced when the fuel is burned, or do you not like gas because of the evil oil companies? I’m guessing it’s probably both. But hey if you want one go buy one. I could care less. If you want to shell out $40,000 for a golf cart go right ahead. Just don’t tell me that I have to get rid of my car and get a golf cart too. And that’s the thing, I don’t want one but you do have a problem with that. Don’t try and deny it. I know that is how Liberals think. You want everyone to suffer equally.

    • Rob N. Hood November 23, 2011 at 5:19 pm #

      Cannot, and will not, reply to such insanity, anymore.

  24. joe November 23, 2011 at 1:09 am #

    Neil, you make my point exactly.

  25. Jerk A. Knot November 23, 2011 at 10:44 am #

    You Guys spent 10 days arguing with Robbie Boy What an utter waist of time. He was out matched in every venue. Neil Job well done highlighting the weaknesses of the Electric car and adressing the second order of effects. RNH Great job of…of…of calling everyone names.

    • NEIL F. AGWD/BSD November 23, 2011 at 12:52 pm #

      It’s not a waste of time if you consider the entertainment value.

      • Jerk A. Knot November 28, 2011 at 10:13 am #

        HE HE it was entertaining

  26. Rob N. Hood November 23, 2011 at 5:18 pm #

    Really? I called everyone names? Don’t recall that. Perhaps the other way around. But the attachment to reality here is VERY tenuous and even too unhinged for me to contend with. So congrats.

    • NEIL F. AGWD/BSD November 24, 2011 at 11:15 am #

      Are you threatening to leave again? You’ll be back.

  27. Joe November 27, 2011 at 9:37 pm #

    No more arguing with a non-entity. Time better spent on reality instead of B. S. from a Soro’s minion.

  28. Rob N. Hood December 1, 2011 at 6:18 pm #

    As part of its annual owner-satisfaction survey, Consumer Reports asks car owners, “Considering all factors (price, reliability, comfort, enjoyment, etc.), would you get this car if you had it to do all over again?” The vehicle that garnered the most answers of “definitely yes” wasn’t the iconic Porsche 911 or the visceral V8-powered Dodge Challenger muscle car, but the high-tech Chevrolet Volt, priced at around $40,000.

    A whopping 93 percent of Volt owners said they would definitely buy the car again, compared with 91 percent each for the second-place 911 and Challenger.

    And I am a non-entity…ho hum… yawn

  29. Rob N. Hood December 2, 2011 at 4:48 pm #

    Now Joe is blue- either he cold or depressed… maybe both. And no, I’m not being a smurf racist.

  30. Joe December 2, 2011 at 10:45 pm #

    For the cost of a revolting Volt I could spend the same amount for two Chevy Impala’s that get 34 MPH. Doesn’t cost me extra plugging the damn thing in and burning coal to fuel them. The combustion engine to date, is still the best. By th way a battery is $90.00 for the Impala Versus $4,000.00 for the Volt. Take a vote all knowing one! All consumers will agree with me as well as others.

  31. Rob N. Hood December 3, 2011 at 8:11 am #

    …Joe… the above is not my opinion, that’s obvious, or should be. And as far as being an “all-knowing one” a person who states “all consumers will agree with me” is the all-knowing one, wouldn’t you agree? And please feel free to buy as many Impalas as you want. Consumerism is still a right in this country, and probably always will be, priase the God of Mammon.

  32. Joe December 4, 2011 at 10:58 pm #

    6,000 volts sold. Three that had their lithium batteries catch fire after a crash. 26-30 miles with a charge and you, consumer, would buy this car for $43,000 with a replacement batter of $4,000 after a fender bender? (I get Consumer Reports and they are always 60-120 days behind the real news of the day) It is apparent you have no real knowledge of the combustion engine and what it can do. Energy independent in the next 15 years assuming the simple simon’s are out of office that people like you continue to support that, if it continues, will be the death knell to America as we know it.

  33. joe December 5, 2011 at 12:27 am #

    Still hate blacks don’t you.

  34. Rob N. Hood December 5, 2011 at 5:08 pm #

    Uhh… really Joe? Please seek help.

  35. Rob N. Hood December 5, 2011 at 5:17 pm #

    Pro-fess-ional help.

  36. joe December 5, 2011 at 11:50 pm #

    Yes, I’m professional, are you?

  37. Rob N. Hood December 7, 2011 at 10:29 am #

    At what?

  38. Joe December 7, 2011 at 10:50 pm #

    Talking to psychotic people like you.

  39. Rob N. Hood December 8, 2011 at 8:26 am #

    Oh- are you a mental health professional?

  40. Rob N. Hood December 8, 2011 at 4:03 pm #

    Yes, no? Thought not… you just like to see how vapid you can be in writing. It is quite something to behold.

  41. joe December 10, 2011 at 1:37 am #

    Let’s just say I keep track of and monitor a wide range of different/certain individuals.

  42. Rob N. Hood December 10, 2011 at 8:35 am #

    Oh well, at least you aren’t being obscure and murky. Some people hate that. So you are a probation officer perhaps? Love this game playing…?! You don’t need to tell me, of course. I just called you out on a hateful and demeaning comment, that’s all. Some people hate that too.

  43. Joe December 10, 2011 at 7:30 pm #

    I don’t “hate” anyone. The word is “dislike”, or “disagree” with certain comments, actions etc. Finally, have many duties, what is your occ?

  44. Rob N. Hood December 11, 2011 at 7:56 am #

    Asked you first. It sure is easier for you to tack on adjectives to others than it is for you to take responsibility for yourself isn’t it? Isn’t personal responsiblity your raison d’etre ?

  45. Joe December 13, 2011 at 9:47 pm #

    You will never know what I do for a living. I must admit that being obscure and yes murky on occasions keeps my blood flowing and pulse rate up that I enjoy. Always have my back to the light, always.

  46. Rob N. Hood December 15, 2011 at 3:29 pm #

    U miss some nice sunsets.

  47. joe December 15, 2011 at 11:32 pm #

    I’m alive, that’s all that matters.

  48. Rob N. Hood December 16, 2011 at 8:24 am #

    Yes, that is one way of looking at life, in its most narrowest sense.

  49. Joe December 17, 2011 at 9:08 pm #

    After losing 10 of my closest friends lately, yes, being alive is all that matters. If in your mind that is narrow thinking, so be it. Life is choices.

  50. Rob N. Hood December 19, 2011 at 8:16 am #

    Nice back-handed guilt trip attempt. As if I would know that, etc. I never even had 10 close friends, ever. How’s that for a re-guilt trip? Two can play at these kind of games. They go on and on and on, on this site. You’ve come to the right place. Not only that, what I stated above was a truth, and not meant to be an insult. But life is choices as they say, and you can choose to be insulted all day long if it suits you.

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