Copenhagen's Political Science

From the Washington Post

sarah-palinBy Sarah Palin — With the publication of damaging e-mails from a climate research center in Britain, the radical environmental movement appears to face a tipping point. The revelation of appalling actions by so-called climate change experts allows the American public to finally understand the concerns so many of us have articulated on this issue.  “Climate-gate,” as the e-mails and other documents from the Climate Research Unit at the University of East Anglia have become known, exposes a highly politicized scientific circle — the same circle whose work underlies efforts at the Copenhagen climate change conference. The agenda-driven policies being pushed in Copenhagen won’t change the weather, but they would change our economy for the worse.

The e-mails reveal that leading climate “experts” deliberately destroyed records, manipulated data to “hide the decline” in global temperatures, and tried to silence their critics by preventing them from publishing in peer-reviewed journals. What’s more, the documents show that there was no real consensus even within the CRU crowd. Some scientists had strong doubts about the accuracy of estimates of temperatures from centuries ago, estimates used to back claims that more recent temperatures are rising at an alarming rate.

This scandal obviously calls into question the proposals being pushed in Copenhagen. I’ve always believed that policy should be based on sound science, not politics.

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22 Responses to Copenhagen's Political Science

  1. Rob N. Hood December 10, 2009 at 5:00 pm #

    I’m sure glad that someone as intelligent and scientifically educated as SP was finally brave enough to be the spokes-model for the climate change debunking! -breathing sigh of relief and gratitude… Now THAT was a smart move. That is one solid seal of approval (or disapproval as the case may be).

  2. Torrie December 10, 2009 at 5:42 pm #

    So….can we string all of the “con artists” up by the short hairs yet? If not yet…….WHEN? We cannot let any of these idiots get away with this!From that D-bag Gore all the way to the President,they must all pay for their deception.

  3. paul wenum December 11, 2009 at 12:25 am #

    Rob, If you don’t like “Red” vote “Blue” I know you!!!

  4. ethan December 11, 2009 at 2:38 am #

    The (Dutch) minister is bananas?
    We are worried and think she became psychotic

  5. Rob N. Hood December 11, 2009 at 11:05 am #

    I was being sarcastic. SP is poison to any sane issue or group that wants/needs followers. And Paul, I’m afraid I cannot vote for either corrupt party. Either vote for another, “third party”, or don’t vote at all.

    Disillusioned “Right Wing” blogger Rick Moran, recently bemoaning what he sees as the rise of an “anti-reason” movement on the far right, may have put it best when he asked, “What is it that possesses certain conservatives to fool themselves so spectacularly into believing that they can create a majority out of a minority?”

    His definition of “anti-reason” conservatives, who now anchor the right-wing media, seemed dead-on, as well: “Those whom reject reality in favor of persecution complexes, wildly exaggerated hyperbole, and a frightening need for vengeance against their imagined ‘enemies.’ “

  6. paul wenum December 11, 2009 at 8:58 pm #

    Truth is “reality”. Something sorely missing today.

  7. The Deliverer December 12, 2009 at 5:48 pm #

    Not that I go along with SP views, but everything she’s saying is pretty accurate. This robbery will devastate our country like it has never been seen before if this treaty is signed and passed. Obama is even going against congress approval. isn’t this dictatorship? This criminal making decisions that he can’t even make? There is no amount of magnified devastation of what’s to come.

  8. Diana December 13, 2009 at 4:51 pm #

    I am glad you have the guts to tell the truth Sarah I hope people listen and learn from you!

  9. Rob N. Hood December 14, 2009 at 10:35 am #

    Nope, she’s a clueless hack-

    Now, the empire the US has built is based upon worldwide trade/control of resources from dominated nations to buyer nations, and the US physical nation itself is no longer intimately involved in the transactions.

    In other words buying and selling resources outside the US make much US wealth and the entire process is done outside the US itself without a majority of the US citizenry even involved in the deals at all.

    However, the US military is used to insure the transactions taking place benefit US owned controlling corporate and financial interests…and our government politicians and officials also support these processes because much of their personal wealth and reelection money comes not from the citizenry inside the US, but from the lobbyists of US corporations doing business around the world outside the US.

    Resultant of these processes, our corporations see no need to cut the US citizenry in on the wealth they gain from the outside world anymore.
    As long as the citizenry supports the US government and its military, that is enough to keep the system going. Our rulers attempt to keep the citizenry busy with computer porn, lots of mindless entertainment, religions and cheaply-made Chinese consumer items…bought with borrowed money or newly printed money (future public debt certificates)…and then our financiers can do worldwide business without paying the US masses much attention.
    It interests these financiers or globalists very little if the US infrastructure implodes from within from a lack of upkeep or if the aging US citizenry is dying because of a lack of adequate health care.

    Elites and their corporations see the US citizenry as unnecessary nuisances and unnecessary expenses to their global profiteering. They have villas in Costa Rica and Dubai and other areas around the world…so even citizen unrest and poverty would not bother them much, out of sight, out of mind for them.
    They hope to keep US citizens cowed with a combination of terrorism threats, propaganda and police or military force to keep them under control while they use the US stock market and US government as a base for their worldwide operations to dominate world resources and profit from their worldwide operations.
    Their only need for the American people is as producers of continual cannon fodder to fill military ranks in order for the US military to dominate other nations around the world. And to pay for the upkeep of the government which works for them as their agent. Of course US military contractors can profit greatly from this as they continually produce war materials for the military.

    So, the US is imploding, but the money-power segment of US society is doing exceedingly well financially.

  10. Rob N. Hood December 14, 2009 at 1:02 pm #

    The “Quittah” from Wasilla…

    Ironically, just as Rep. Barton is pushing his claim that warming is beneficial for humans, the Pentagon is concluding that “global warming is now officially considered a threat to U.S. national security.” In its upcoming 2010 Quadrennial Defense Review, Pentagon planners will report that climate change could result in food and water scarcity, pandemics, population displacement, and other destabilizing events that could create conflict.

    “The American people expect the military to plan for the worst,” says retired Vice Adm. Lee Gunn, a 35-year Navy veteran now serving as president of the American Security Project. “It’s that sort of mindset, I think, that has convinced, in my view, the vast majority of military leaders that climate change is a real threat and that the military plays an important role in confronting it.”

    Barton took issue with Sarah Palin’s call for Obama to boycott Copenhagen. “I like Sarah Palin as a person…I would disagree with her though. I think the President’s got every right to go to Copenhagen,” he said.

  11. paul wenum December 14, 2009 at 10:40 pm #

    Who gives you your talking points? I, as well as others are curious. With your busy schedule I assume that someone on the extreme left is feeding you. Let us know, or is that to must to ask?

    • Rob N. Hood December 15, 2009 at 2:33 pm #

      Paul as you know I cut and paste things that are interesting from fairly mainstream sources. I know that is considered a no no, but I also add my own thoughts on a regular basis too. I don’ believe my posts are that radical or well written enough to come from somewhere else, except for what I do “steal”. But I use those items for a reason, my own I guess, and that’s free speech right? I appreciate your admiration or whatever it is, I really do. I’m just a very average Liberal who’s been around long enough to have seen how things work. I don’t know it all for sure, as I have admitted occasionally. Nobody does; and as you people say that about Al Gore- his passion, and mostly his “arrogant” certainty is what made you guys angry. I understand that. But when you consider the subject at hand- global climate change, etc. well I don’t hold it against him or anyone else who is concerned in a major way. Now you can say it was because he wanted to get rich off it, maybe so. But it also seems apparent, to me anyway, that he cares about the environment and the planet, and that unfortunately he believes that Cap and Trade would really help. Now, I don’t agree with that, and I hope it doesn’t pass, but he’s doing just what all other powerful Americans do and/or want to do: they initiate things they believe in, and try to make a buck at the same time. It’s called capitalism. The very system you guys act like is so wonderful and perfect, etc. I do think it’s kind of sleazy for Gore to do that, but like I said that’s capitalism- it is often a sleazy game. You guys act so pure and innocent, or the people you vote for are so. How naive and hypocritical.

  12. scottia fredeick December 15, 2009 at 10:11 am #

    Here in Australia we know well why the so many of the powerbrokers in US politics and the MSM they control ran a mud-campaign on Sarah Palin during the last election: she’s beautiful, intelligent and speaks the truth about people who are rich and corrupt. Her article puts into layman’s words what is blatantly obvious about Copenhagen: It’s the biggest fraud in human history; it’s an effort by the corrupt UN to establish a communist world government with horrific powers and a bottomless bank account filled with the money of ordinary, honest people whose trust has been abused. There are even children here holding up signs saying “Nature doesn’t negotiate” to support their cause: their brainwashing leaves no one untouched, even the most innocent and trusting in our world. But this life is short: all of these corrupt politicians better hope that the Just God doesn’t exist……even a few billion $$$$ and a few years of luxury is not worth one’s soul for eternity in my opinion. I wouldn’t want to be them. I’d rather be poor, decent and die with a clean conscience.

  13. Scottia frederic December 15, 2009 at 10:19 am #

    If Obama is truly the ‘scientist’s president’ then he should not support a conference like Copenhagen which is based on the blatantly obvious fraud of global warming. That the integrity of the science underpinning the global warming is compromised is abundantly clear, and is growing moreso with each new lawsuit and Freedom of Information request being filed, and this is only going to increase exponentially as the general public continue to wake up to the fact that they have been lied to. Obama’s presence at Copenhagen will then, in retrospect, send a clear message to the whole world that he never truly valued the integrity of science himself.

  14. Rob N. Hood December 15, 2009 at 2:41 pm #

    How can you blame people for wanting a healthy planet? It is ridiculous, even obscene, to belittle people for that. It’s just as likely that it is you who is bainwashed. At least they/we are doing something we think will benefit everyone and for future generations. And it’s not done out of personal greed or self-centeredness (minus Al Gore please!!). And I think that is what bothers you all so much. Not only don’t you understand that, but it ranckles you. You hate and distrust those not like you.

  15. paul wenum December 16, 2009 at 10:44 pm #

    My God, Alinsky at his best. You are an excellent student. No substance, simply demean.

  16. Rob N. Hood December 17, 2009 at 9:43 am #

    Libertarians are anarchists, by definition. They don’t give a rat’s butt about anybody but themsleves and their immediate families. Very similar to “Anti-social Personality Disorder” – it’s a serious psychological disfunction- it might fit the more angry members. But probably it’s mostly plain old Narcissism for the rest. I’d have to think about that further though. There’s several possibilites/combinations for diagnoses.

  17. paul wenum December 17, 2009 at 8:38 pm #

    To much deep thought puts you in a well from which you never return.

  18. Rob N. Hood December 19, 2009 at 4:52 pm #

    Or it could uncover some truth. Pretty scary.

  19. pete d December 24, 2009 at 10:23 am #

    yeah thank god sarah told her opinion! we all know she is one great thinker all right ! i cannot believe the repubs are so desperate to win an election that they would push another mental midget to the fore to get the retarded redneck vote. well im sorry lets just call them educationally challenged and never left completely behind. just behind in the areas of being able to think for themselves. i do believe some of my country bros and sis are starting to become enlightened enough and READ enough variety to figure that the wool is being pulled over eyes by those they believe are protecting their rights to shoot guns etc. bcuz EVERYBODY knows them there liberals cant wait to get all the guns off the streets! duh? where is obama saying THAT is big on his agenda? oh i know hes just waiting for the right time , right ? you tarded folk? im beggin all of you to pay attention to what actually gets signed into law and not all the bullshit positioning and stumping b4 ! stumping and lying is all part of the 2 party war games to discredit each other. look around, you still got your guns right? we had 2 clinton terms, still got guns? my point is dont be sucked into politicians lil name calling mud slinging waste of our precious time! think for yourselves people and start by reading what actually gets finalized in wash dc. rush limnutts and his democrat counterparts get paid lots and lots of money to make something out of nothing daily drama shows !!! why? because drama sells advertising and more advertising = more money for media outlets and limbaughs. so people when you put all the pieces together it makes alot of sense. we the masses who make less than 400,000 per yr are all in same boat. whether we live in suburbs of big city or lil lovely country towns. 9im sorry i forgot to mention the loads of retards in the big city and burbs bcuz we got plenty too) TRUTH IS THE POLITICIANS WIN EITHER WAY, THEY VOTE FOR THEIR OWN PAY RAISES AND FIGHT EACH OTHER CONSTANTLY, MAKING VERY LIL PROGRESS. we the people should vote for the pay raises, right? we are the bosses, right? BOTTOM LINE? THE 2 PARTY SYSTEM HAS BECOME NETWORK OF BUDDY SYSTEMS AND NO LONGER FUNCTIONS AS GOOD AS IT USED TOO AND NEEDS SERIOUS FIXING AND WE THE PEOPLE ARE THE ONLY ONES WITH ENOUGH NUMBERS AND STRENGTH TO FORCE THE ISSUE. PROBLEM IS WE ARE DIVIDED INTO BLUE AND RED. :[

  20. pete d December 24, 2009 at 11:22 am #

    out of all these commentaries , i think rob n hood is most close to the truth. scottia and all the rest of you non believers in global warming, i say this. its just plain facts that the temp is on a rising trend. all of the data supports that. lets say the trend will only last 100 yrs and reverse to colling down. SO WHAT! in the meanwhile (those 100 yrs), wouldnt it be wise to learn,develop and implement strategies to counter/slowdown it if possible? to do nothing would only inspire more disregard by those profiting from energy exploits etc not to mention make future generations ask question why didnt THEY do anything? ALSO, it will create JOBS! best idea i can come up with to create jobs/world unity is through making air and water as clean as possible. create new high global manufacturing standards,which may result in some new jobs here in the states. way i look at world is that those billionaire profiteers that rob n hood speak of are the real enemies and need to be eliminated or forced to rethink their views or have a change of hearts if they possess hearts. i believe that aside from them the real enemy is human nature tendency to dominate and have power over, rather than work with and share with. we need to create laws that discourage greed and such. we need to face facts that if we need more housing going forward (population growth) with only limited resources for farming and ecological balance. so solution is……… build skyscrapers for housing. we CAN build up to the sky. plenty of real estate there. that means that the american dream of owning own house/yard is foolish unfeasible long term. sorry everybody! stop being selfish.anyways there are plenty more jobs to be created involving agriculture advanced to supply more food for growing pop. and advanced ways of developing land for mixed uses. we are only limited by our imaginations. what a wonderful world it will be!

  21. paul wenum December 26, 2009 at 1:14 am #

    “Pete D,”

    The discourse is good. Are you and Rob related?

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