Comments on: The Great and Powerful Gore Has Spoken – Sandy a “Disturbing Sign of Things to Come” http://www.globalclimatescam.com/2012/10/the-great-and-powerful-gore-has-spoken-sandy-a-disturbing-sign-of-things-to-come/ Exposing the truth about global warming hysteria Sun, 19 May 2013 12:17:21 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2 By: spike59 http://www.globalclimatescam.com/2012/10/the-great-and-powerful-gore-has-spoken-sandy-a-disturbing-sign-of-things-to-come/comment-page-1/#comment-76395 spike59 Mon, 10 Dec 2012 18:44:05 +0000 http://www.globalclimatescam.com/?p=2367#comment-76395 What if we spent less on military boondoggles and used that REAL billions and billions of savings, while staying safe, for economic growth? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ sounds like someone's been sipping the Obama Kool-aid, that makes you pretend that you can spend money that isn't there What if we spent less on military boondoggles and used that REAL billions and billions of savings, while staying safe, for economic growth?
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sounds like someone’s been sipping the Obama Kool-aid, that makes you pretend that you can spend money that isn’t there

]]> By: Rob N. Hood http://www.globalclimatescam.com/2012/10/the-great-and-powerful-gore-has-spoken-sandy-a-disturbing-sign-of-things-to-come/comment-page-1/#comment-71228 Rob N. Hood Tue, 13 Nov 2012 20:22:57 +0000 http://www.globalclimatescam.com/?p=2367#comment-71228 And yes, Neil, I am aware of the high cost of this amazing car and that very few people can actually afford it. *But that's not the point. *pre-emptive remarks based upon previous mind-numbing responses from resident expert... And yes, Neil, I am aware of the high cost of this amazing car and that very few people can actually afford it. *But that’s not the point.

*pre-emptive remarks based upon previous mind-numbing responses from resident expert…

]]> By: Rob N. Hood http://www.globalclimatescam.com/2012/10/the-great-and-powerful-gore-has-spoken-sandy-a-disturbing-sign-of-things-to-come/comment-page-1/#comment-71226 Rob N. Hood Tue, 13 Nov 2012 20:20:19 +0000 http://www.globalclimatescam.com/?p=2367#comment-71226 The Tesla Model S is the 2013 Motor Trend Car of the Year. The luxury 5-door electric sedan fought off 10 other finalists for the Golden Calipers trophy, acing the magazine's six judging criteria in the process. Eleven judges reviewed the contenders, including three guests, and for the first time in the award's history all 11 voted unanimously for the winner. The Tesla Model S is the 2013 Motor Trend Car of the Year. The luxury 5-door electric sedan fought off 10 other finalists for the Golden Calipers trophy, acing the magazine’s six judging criteria in the process. Eleven judges reviewed the contenders, including three guests, and for the first time in the award’s history all 11 voted unanimously for the winner.

]]> By: Rob N. Hood http://www.globalclimatescam.com/2012/10/the-great-and-powerful-gore-has-spoken-sandy-a-disturbing-sign-of-things-to-come/comment-page-1/#comment-71180 Rob N. Hood Tue, 13 Nov 2012 14:41:22 +0000 http://www.globalclimatescam.com/?p=2367#comment-71180 Neil- he apologized for the ad hominem nature of his insult, something which he and I share as a negative, and that which we feel bad for. You see, he is mainly a Lefty, if not wholey so. The apology to us Leftys is not a sign of weakness or anything of that nature. It is common courtesy and a sign of humanity. Was his insult an ad hominem? That could be debated surely, but it is he who apologized as was his right to do so, and my right to accept his apology. Now as I stated earlier, let's move on to discuss AGW and those numbers of scientists who do and do not subscribe, and that which makes side the more logical to alighn with based on numbers of scientists. That is my current point and contention. What say you guys? Neil- he apologized for the ad hominem nature of his insult, something which he and I share as a negative, and that which we feel bad for. You see, he is mainly a Lefty, if not wholey so. The apology to us Leftys is not a sign of weakness or anything of that nature. It is common courtesy and a sign of humanity. Was his insult an ad hominem? That could be debated surely, but it is he who apologized as was his right to do so, and my right to accept his apology. Now as I stated earlier, let’s move on to discuss AGW and those numbers of scientists who do and do not subscribe, and that which makes side the more logical to alighn with based on numbers of scientists. That is my current point and contention. What say you guys?

]]> By: NEILIO http://www.globalclimatescam.com/2012/10/the-great-and-powerful-gore-has-spoken-sandy-a-disturbing-sign-of-things-to-come/comment-page-1/#comment-71106 NEILIO Tue, 13 Nov 2012 03:02:39 +0000 http://www.globalclimatescam.com/?p=2367#comment-71106 I hate to say I told you so. But................ Anyway, thanks for your comments. I don't think you should have apologised for saying he's "flakey", because I think you were right on the money. From the dictionary; flakey - conspicuously or grossly unconventional or unusual. It is an apt description. I hate to say I told you so. But……………. Anyway, thanks for your comments. I don’t think you should have apologised for saying he’s “flakey”, because I think you were right on the money. From the dictionary; flakey – conspicuously or grossly unconventional or unusual. It is an apt description.

]]> By: Rob N. Hood http://www.globalclimatescam.com/2012/10/the-great-and-powerful-gore-has-spoken-sandy-a-disturbing-sign-of-things-to-come/comment-page-1/#comment-71068 Rob N. Hood Mon, 12 Nov 2012 20:12:34 +0000 http://www.globalclimatescam.com/?p=2367#comment-71068 Sigh- another lesson on hypocrisy forth-coming: you wrote- "Apart from my use of the word ‘flaky’, which with hindsight was a mistake that I made twice," Ok? Using the Ad hominem, and then accusing me of same, is, hypocrisy. If that was not an ad hominem I don't know what is. But hey, you may be perfect like Neil and never make any mistakes either initially or in retrospect. If so, you have every reason to be proud. And with regards to irrationality and the side to which the number of scientists to which one places their loyalty, as I stated I err (humbleness, see how that works?) on the side of the majority. Why? Logic and reason. It is not, vs. the minority based upon those two criterion? Granted the minority is correct sometimes, but that is not the point. My point was/is logic and rationality. You all have every right to your illogical position, but please stop arguing the pissing contest of the logic involved, because you will lose every time. That is all. And I'm so sorry for reacting so emotionally (actually I didn't) to being called flakey. But as I discussed above I was more upset about your hypocrisy. However, I realize that like Neilio and his ilk you will not agree on your shortcomings, so I am ready and able to forget all the nitpicking and hair splitting about all that. You may want to discuss your choice of scientists, and why that is Not an emotional irrational choice... which IMO it is. Sigh- another lesson on hypocrisy forth-coming: you wrote- “Apart from my use of the word ‘flaky’, which with hindsight was a mistake that I made twice,” Ok? Using the Ad hominem, and then accusing me of same, is, hypocrisy. If that was not an ad hominem I don’t know what is. But hey, you may be perfect like Neil and never make any mistakes either initially or in retrospect. If so, you have every reason to be proud. And with regards to irrationality and the side to which the number of scientists to which one places their loyalty, as I stated I err (humbleness, see how that works?) on the side of the majority. Why? Logic and reason. It is not, vs. the minority based upon those two criterion? Granted the minority is correct sometimes, but that is not the point. My point was/is logic and rationality. You all have every right to your illogical position, but please stop arguing the pissing contest of the logic involved, because you will lose every time. That is all. And I’m so sorry for reacting so emotionally (actually I didn’t) to being called flakey. But as I discussed above I was more upset about your hypocrisy. However, I realize that like Neilio and his ilk you will not agree on your shortcomings, so I am ready and able to forget all the nitpicking and hair splitting about all that. You may want to discuss your choice of scientists, and why that is Not an emotional irrational choice… which IMO it is.

]]> By: Peter the Proud Sceptic http://www.globalclimatescam.com/2012/10/the-great-and-powerful-gore-has-spoken-sandy-a-disturbing-sign-of-things-to-come/comment-page-1/#comment-71038 Peter the Proud Sceptic Mon, 12 Nov 2012 13:01:51 +0000 http://www.globalclimatescam.com/?p=2367#comment-71038 Admitting to hypocrisy? Not I. 'Listing some names (not very many) of skeptical scientists...' Not very many? I could, if I thought that it would actually make a difference to anything, provide another 12 or names, but then why should I? You are set in your ways, nothing will ever have any impact upon your inflexible mind-set. This last post of yours is truly disturbing, it makes no sense whatsoever, and I sincerely hope that you seek the psychiatric help that you so desperately need. From now on I will just ignore you completely, because you have demonstrated that you cannot even think straight and, to be quite honest, I am tired of your deliberate obfuscation and disrespectful ad hominems. Not to mention your bad attitude, temper tantrums, and inability to reason things through. You, sir, are truly hopeless, and I hope I never, ever, encounter anyone even remotely like you as long as I live. Good bye and good riddance! Admitting to hypocrisy? Not I.

‘Listing some names (not very many) of skeptical scientists…’ Not very many? I could, if I thought that it would actually make a difference to anything, provide another 12 or names, but then why should I? You are set in your ways, nothing will ever have any impact upon your inflexible mind-set.

This last post of yours is truly disturbing, it makes no sense whatsoever, and I sincerely hope that you seek the psychiatric help that you so desperately need. From now on I will just ignore you completely, because you have demonstrated that you cannot even think straight and, to be quite honest, I am tired of your deliberate obfuscation and disrespectful ad hominems. Not to mention your bad attitude, temper tantrums, and inability to reason things through. You, sir, are truly hopeless, and I hope I never, ever, encounter anyone even remotely like you as long as I live.

Good bye and good riddance!

]]> By: Rob N. Hood http://www.globalclimatescam.com/2012/10/the-great-and-powerful-gore-has-spoken-sandy-a-disturbing-sign-of-things-to-come/comment-page-1/#comment-70976 Rob N. Hood Mon, 12 Nov 2012 00:12:22 +0000 http://www.globalclimatescam.com/?p=2367#comment-70976 So we've established your hypocrisy which is very honest of you to admit, something Neil never did, nor will. And that the smiley face takes you off the hook for whatever you wish to say or not say... Ok, your irrationality is this, for example: Listing some names (not very many) of skeptical scientists, and then rank on my for beeing irrational etc. (although this may be more hypocrital than irrational, perhaps boths). Glad to hear you aren't a wing nut Aussie style. I am inundated with that here thus my assumption. I have always admitted that we on the Left can be wrong, hypocritical etc etc. But we then to do it much less than the rabid Right does. And Neilio I agree with you on at least one more thing (makes the total of things we agreed on I guess two now) that Pete the Humble is better than you at this. So we’ve established your hypocrisy which is very honest of you to admit, something Neil never did, nor will. And that the smiley face takes you off the hook for whatever you wish to say or not say… Ok, your irrationality is this, for example: Listing some names (not very many) of skeptical scientists, and then rank on my for beeing irrational etc. (although this may be more hypocrital than irrational, perhaps boths). Glad to hear you aren’t a wing nut Aussie style. I am inundated with that here thus my assumption. I have always admitted that we on the Left can be wrong, hypocritical etc etc. But we then to do it much less than the rabid Right does. And Neilio I agree with you on at least one more thing (makes the total of things we agreed on I guess two now) that Pete the Humble is better than you at this.

]]> By: NEILIO http://www.globalclimatescam.com/2012/10/the-great-and-powerful-gore-has-spoken-sandy-a-disturbing-sign-of-things-to-come/comment-page-1/#comment-70962 NEILIO Sun, 11 Nov 2012 20:57:01 +0000 http://www.globalclimatescam.com/?p=2367#comment-70962 Irregardless is a word that many mistakenly believe to be correct usage in formal style, when in fact it is used chiefly in nonstandard speech or casual writing. Coined in the United States in the early 20th century, it has met with a blizzard of condemnation for being an improper yoking of irrespective and regardless and for the logical absurdity of combining the negative ir- prefix and -less suffix in a single term. Although one might reasonably argue that it is no different from words with redundant affixes like debone and unravel, it has been considered a blunder for decades and will probably continue to be so. Irregardless is a word that many mistakenly believe to be correct usage in formal style, when in fact it is used chiefly in nonstandard speech or casual writing. Coined in the United States in the early 20th century, it has met with a blizzard of condemnation for being an improper yoking of irrespective and regardless and for the logical absurdity of combining the negative ir- prefix and -less suffix in a single term. Although one might reasonably argue that it is no different from words with redundant affixes like debone and unravel, it has been considered a blunder for decades and will probably continue to be so.

]]> By: Peter the Proud Sceptic http://www.globalclimatescam.com/2012/10/the-great-and-powerful-gore-has-spoken-sandy-a-disturbing-sign-of-things-to-come/comment-page-1/#comment-70905 Peter the Proud Sceptic Sun, 11 Nov 2012 03:49:23 +0000 http://www.globalclimatescam.com/?p=2367#comment-70905 Deconvert - I was joking when I said that; hence the smileyface. 'Listen to Rush'? Do you mean Rush Limbaugh by any chance? I'm not in the U.S., so I couldn't listen to him even if I wanted to (and I don't). I CAN take 'occasional criticism', but the criticism you have dished out so far has been both destructive and personal. How about some constructive criticism for a change? Deconvert – I was joking when I said that; hence the smileyface. ‘Listen to Rush’? Do you mean Rush Limbaugh by any chance? I’m not in the U.S., so I couldn’t listen to him even if I wanted to (and I don’t). I CAN take ‘occasional criticism’, but the criticism you have dished out so far has been both destructive and personal. How about some constructive criticism for a change?

]]> By: Peter the Proud Sceptic http://www.globalclimatescam.com/2012/10/the-great-and-powerful-gore-has-spoken-sandy-a-disturbing-sign-of-things-to-come/comment-page-1/#comment-70903 Peter the Proud Sceptic Sun, 11 Nov 2012 03:37:09 +0000 http://www.globalclimatescam.com/?p=2367#comment-70903 This may come as a shock to you Rob, but I am not 'of the Right persuasion'. My political beliefs, if that is what you are referring to, I would categorise as being left-wing and progressive regarding a number of issues. For example, here in Australia we have very stringent controls on firearms possession, which I fully support and which - shock, horror - were introduced by a conservative federal government after the Port Arthur massacre during the late 1990's. I also support universal health-care coverage (known as Medicare), the obligation of those with more money to pay more tax, and the retention of essential services and utilities by the government. My 'right-wing nature', on the other hand, is opposed to environmentalist policies (ex. CO2 tax), Marxism, and multiculturalism (which has never worked anywhere). As for creating 'diversions', well... did you at any point make the claim, prior to Nov. 9 at 8:47 A.M., that 'the lists of scientists for either side in this issue are easily obtainable' in order to prove some point of yours prior to the request, by you, to provide a list of sceptical scientists? Did I perhaps miss it somewhere? Why are my statements 'irrational'? Could you explain this perception of yours? Is it truly irrational to question authority figures regarding, not just the AGW issue, but anything else as well? What is your definition of 'irrationality'? Why are you becoming so emotional about all of this? Apart from my use of the word 'flaky', which with hindsight was a mistake that I made twice, have I used ad hominems to denigrate, insult or ridicule? What, exactly, IS 'the Neilio debating technique'? How does it apply to me? This may come as a shock to you Rob, but I am not ‘of the Right persuasion’. My political beliefs, if that is what you are referring to, I would categorise as being left-wing and progressive regarding a number of issues. For example, here in Australia we have very stringent controls on firearms possession, which I fully support and which – shock, horror – were introduced by a conservative federal government after the Port Arthur massacre during the late 1990′s. I also support universal health-care coverage (known as Medicare), the obligation of those with more money to pay more tax, and the retention of essential services and utilities by the government. My ‘right-wing nature’, on the other hand, is opposed to environmentalist policies (ex. CO2 tax), Marxism, and multiculturalism (which has never worked anywhere).

As for creating ‘diversions’, well… did you at any point make the claim, prior to Nov. 9 at 8:47 A.M., that ‘the lists of scientists for either side in this issue are easily obtainable’ in order to prove some point of yours prior to the request, by you, to provide a list of sceptical scientists? Did I perhaps miss it somewhere? Why are my statements ‘irrational’? Could you explain this perception of yours? Is it truly irrational to question authority figures regarding, not just the AGW issue, but anything else as well? What is your definition of ‘irrationality’? Why are you becoming so emotional about all of this? Apart from my use of the word ‘flaky’, which with hindsight was a mistake that I made twice, have I used ad hominems to denigrate, insult or ridicule? What, exactly, IS ‘the Neilio debating technique’? How does it apply to me?

]]> By: NEILIO http://www.globalclimatescam.com/2012/10/the-great-and-powerful-gore-has-spoken-sandy-a-disturbing-sign-of-things-to-come/comment-page-1/#comment-70899 NEILIO Sun, 11 Nov 2012 02:04:27 +0000 http://www.globalclimatescam.com/?p=2367#comment-70899 Are you kidding?! Peter's stuff is dynamite! I was never that good. He's no disciple of mine. In fact I think I can learn a thing or two from him. Are you kidding?! Peter’s stuff is dynamite! I was never that good. He’s no disciple of mine. In fact I think I can learn a thing or two from him.

]]> By: Rob N. Hood http://www.globalclimatescam.com/2012/10/the-great-and-powerful-gore-has-spoken-sandy-a-disturbing-sign-of-things-to-come/comment-page-1/#comment-70857 Rob N. Hood Sat, 10 Nov 2012 16:45:36 +0000 http://www.globalclimatescam.com/?p=2367#comment-70857 "De-convert" me from what exactly? Like neil I don't think you even know what it is you think you are fighting. AGW? Nope, cuz I'm on the fence. De-convert me from that? That actually is illogical. If you can't take some occasional criticism and challenge within this debate of a serious subject then I suggest you spend your time doing something else. Is all you want a simple-minded echo chamber? Turn this off and listen to Rush then. “De-convert” me from what exactly? Like neil I don’t think you even know what it is you think you are fighting. AGW? Nope, cuz I’m on the fence. De-convert me from that? That actually is illogical. If you can’t take some occasional criticism and challenge within this debate of a serious subject then I suggest you spend your time doing something else. Is all you want a simple-minded echo chamber? Turn this off and listen to Rush then.

]]> By: Rob N. Hood http://www.globalclimatescam.com/2012/10/the-great-and-powerful-gore-has-spoken-sandy-a-disturbing-sign-of-things-to-come/comment-page-1/#comment-70855 Rob N. Hood Sat, 10 Nov 2012 16:39:41 +0000 http://www.globalclimatescam.com/?p=2367#comment-70855 To Pete the Proud below (watch the ego pal, it may burst at any moment): the hypocrisy of was referring to was you calling me flakey when you were being flakey. But that's based on my opinion of your initial flakiness, which I know you will vehemently disagree with. I'm just pointing out that which you asked for below. Hypocrisy is a HUGE problem for many folks on the Right, as neilio and others continuously demonstrate irregardless of my diligence in trying to help him/them to stop. It makes such a person appear very illegitimate and even unintelligent, and makes whatever argument they are trying to put forward illogical, irrational, or both. If I/we bother to continue these discussions I willl have to keep pointing this out, because I can't stand hypocrisy. It is the one thing than seems to anger me every time. So I find myself fighting that, and other illogic, as I see it, on this site more than the subject of AGW. Why? For the simple reasons stated above. Before I or anyone else can take a hypocite seriously they must stop being hypocritial. That is my "pet peeve" I guess, and I get sucked in because of it. That actually is my irrationality. Because it seems that it is the rare person who can and will change. Neilio, I believe, is either trying to work on that, finally, or more likley he is simply avoiding my wrath by posting less. Either way he is coming off as less foolish and impulsive. To Pete the Proud below (watch the ego pal, it may burst at any moment): the hypocrisy of was referring to was you calling me flakey when you were being flakey. But that’s based on my opinion of your initial flakiness, which I know you will vehemently disagree with. I’m just pointing out that which you asked for below. Hypocrisy is a HUGE problem for many folks on the Right, as neilio and others continuously demonstrate irregardless of my diligence in trying to help him/them to stop. It makes such a person appear very illegitimate and even unintelligent, and makes whatever argument they are trying to put forward illogical, irrational, or both. If I/we bother to continue these discussions I willl have to keep pointing this out, because I can’t stand hypocrisy. It is the one thing than seems to anger me every time. So I find myself fighting that, and other illogic, as I see it, on this site more than the subject of AGW. Why? For the simple reasons stated above. Before I or anyone else can take a hypocite seriously they must stop being hypocritial. That is my “pet peeve” I guess, and I get sucked in because of it. That actually is my irrationality. Because it seems that it is the rare person who can and will change. Neilio, I believe, is either trying to work on that, finally, or more likley he is simply avoiding my wrath by posting less. Either way he is coming off as less foolish and impulsive.

]]> By: Rob N. Hood http://www.globalclimatescam.com/2012/10/the-great-and-powerful-gore-has-spoken-sandy-a-disturbing-sign-of-things-to-come/comment-page-1/#comment-70854 Rob N. Hood Sat, 10 Nov 2012 16:28:03 +0000 http://www.globalclimatescam.com/?p=2367#comment-70854 Wow- a true disciple of the Neilio "debate technique" of continuous use of illogic and diversion. It is an inadvertant "skill" that many of the Right persuasion possess. I indeed question global warming as much as I question AGW, although the numbers of the latter scientists out-weigh the former, thus my leanings towards the majority, silly fool that I am. As for lack of self-control etc. I suggest you take a moment and reflect upon your own behavior before flinging the usual hypocritical crap around. Wow- a true disciple of the Neilio “debate technique” of continuous use of illogic and diversion. It is an inadvertant “skill” that many of the Right persuasion possess. I indeed question global warming as much as I question AGW, although the numbers of the latter scientists out-weigh the former, thus my leanings towards the majority, silly fool that I am. As for lack of self-control etc. I suggest you take a moment and reflect upon your own behavior before flinging the usual hypocritical crap around.

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