Spy Talk: CIA’s unit on climate change faces uncertain future

global-warming-spyBy Jeff Stein

The future of the CIA’s unit on climate change and U.S. national security is “in jeopardy” because of pressure for intelligence budget cuts and resistance from conservative lawmakers, a new report says.

The CIA’s Center on Climate Change and National Security opened its doors a year ago over the objections of conservatives who attempted to block its funding, Northwestern University’s National Security Reporting Project recounted Monday.

“Now, with calls for belt tightening coming from every corner, leadership in Congress has made it clear that the intelligence budget, which soared to $80.1 billion last year, will have to be cut,” wrote student reporters Charles Mead and Annie Snider. “And after sweeping victories by conservatives in the midterm elections, many political insiders think the community’s climate change work will be in jeopardy.”

Read the rest at the Washington Post.

60 Responses to Spy Talk: CIA’s unit on climate change faces uncertain future

  1. Rob N. Hood January 14, 2011 at 8:21 am #

    JFK wanted to smash the CIA into a thousand pieces, and get rid of it. Not a bad idea.

  2. NEIL F. AGWD/BSD January 15, 2011 at 12:41 am #

    Do you wear glasses that make everything backwards?

    http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/jfk_cia.htm
    “Although President Kennedy was somewhat dissatisfied with the CIA after the Bay of Pigs invasion, there is no evidence that Kennedy actually wanted to break up the agency at anytime, even when he instituted his reviews. His statement about splintering the CIA was likely made in a moment of frustration with the Bay of Pigs failure. Evidence shows that Kennedy relied more heavily on the CIA and covert operations after the Bay of Pigs. His purpose was to make the agency better. The CIA had survived two and a half years without being reduced or dismantled in any way. On the contrary, Kennedy oversaw one the Agency’s largest budget increases in history. The evidence shows that by late 1963 the problems between Kennedy and the Central Intelligence Agency was simply water-under-the-bridge. Kennedy had worked over the two years after the Bay of Pigs to make the CIA a more efficient intelligence gathering agency. Any animosity had completely disappeared by 1963.

    So, again, the facts seem to go against what you say. Not surprising. That is your track record.

  3. Hal Groar January 15, 2011 at 11:52 pm #

    I hope this is one of the first things to be cut! Seriously? CIA climate office? Then it must be true, there is an office called “Department of Labor and Statistics and Evil Climate Deniers”

  4. Rob N. Hood January 16, 2011 at 11:47 am #

    Oh gee, thanks Neil. Did my post really contain anything false- even based upon your cut and paste historical evidence? Nope. Why are you so contrary? Why so much need to correct something that doesn’t seem to need it? Besides, I have read many things about Kennedy, so don’t be so quick to correct something based on one or two sources. Plus, just because Kennedy said what he said doesn’t mean he really did anything about it- although he may have wanted to. And I simply added my opinion about his one sentence statement. That’s all.

  5. paul wenum January 18, 2011 at 3:29 am #

    Rob it seems, needs a vacation. A CIA Unit for Climate change is surreal. Can visualize thousands of mini-Hansen’s running around talking about 1988 projections that never came true. Our government at it’s best? We can do better.

  6. Rob N. Hood January 18, 2011 at 8:04 am #

    I agree Paul. I need a vacation. And the CIA is mostly a wasteful evil joke.

  7. Rob N. Hood January 19, 2011 at 8:20 am #

    Neil, your defensiveness of everything not of your liking, regardless of the logic-based reasoning behind it, does nothing to strengthen your credibility. Just sayin’.

    Now to add some more light into this dark corner of the world: The military-industrial complex, via the CIA, (or vice versa) runs this country of ours and much of the world too. In that sense then, there already is a one-world government. And that, my Right-wing friends, is one of the main things that our brown-skinned neighbors around the world don’t like about us. I don’t like that about us. And neither should you. Instead you defend this staus quo every chance you get. Some of you would apparently even start shooting at “unamericans” like myself if they were told to do so. That is very sad, but it shuoldn’t be that surprising to me. After all there have been many many many civil wars around the world, and some are occurring right now. Our own country had one of the worst.

  8. Rob N. Hood January 20, 2011 at 7:52 am #

    When the stuff hits the fan, I want you people to buck up and NOT, I repeat NOT, start shooting at your Liberal or left-leaning neighbors! We will need to band together to fight our oppressors, whoever they may turn out to be.

    • Jerk A. Knot January 20, 2011 at 3:37 pm #

      Such violent reteroic from a self proclaimed pacifist….

      • Rob N. Hood January 21, 2011 at 9:14 am #

        You are trying to be funny, right? A plea for peace and commraderie is not violent rhetoric. If you cannot comprehend simple english maybe you need more schoolin’ -no foolin’.

        And Paul- you people here are the main ones who try to box people in, such as myself for one obvious example. You still don’t understand what it is to be hypocritical do you?

        • Jerk A. Knot January 27, 2011 at 1:06 pm #

          Oh be for real. You want the right to fight you fight while you sit there and enable the “oppressors” by giving in to them. You don’t want us to shoot at you but you need us to shoot at who you deem as the enemy

          • Rob N. Hood February 17, 2011 at 2:01 pm #

            You know Jerk, that almost makes sense…almost.

  9. paul wenum January 20, 2011 at 11:07 pm #

    Sir Knot, I agree. My neighbors are Democrats, Republicans and independents. Not, liberal, progressive, left-leaning, socialists. There’s a contractor, plumber, meat cutter attorney, doctor, house painter etc. Diverse neighborhood. Rob attempts to put everyone in a box. Real society doesn’t exist in the box he has designed. Robs a real “Pacifist” isn’t he.

  10. Rob N. Hood January 24, 2011 at 1:02 pm #

    I will fight my oppressors if and when given the chance. I do not count the average Righty as my oppressor, they are my fellow Americans. Also the word fight doesn’t mean kill or maim. Whose trying to put who into a box? Oh, you are.

    • Jerk A. Knot January 27, 2011 at 12:58 pm #

      Right Or Left I don’t care. Where is the Constitution in Your book. Are you fighting to Dismantle it or to uphold it? When you say “fight” are you talking about a physical fight or an ideological one? You say you are not ready to Physically fight yet you use that word often. If the Colonies had just debated with the King of England we would all be singing Hail to the Queen.

      • Rob N. Hood February 15, 2011 at 8:41 am #

        Awww, Dan finally succumbed to his Right-wing nature. I wonder if the stuff he deleted about voting (not just “voter ID”) was very accurate and logical. I guess we’ll never know. Dan chose to censor it. Oh well, he has been quite patient with me so far. Dan, like may Rightys, possesses a twisted sense of logic, that is if they truly believe what they believe. Otherwise, he and other Rightys are just tools (for other reasons) of the powerful elite. I guess it’s probably both.

        • Rob N. Hood February 15, 2011 at 8:42 am #

          above posted at the wrong spot…

  11. Rob N. Hood January 24, 2011 at 4:33 pm #

    Ok, so I have a new theory about the subject of this site! I know right? I hardly ever comment on the AGW thingy. Anyhoo, try this on for size. The CIA/MIC know about peak oil, obviously. Without access to the black stuff, we got no defense, or offense, right? Right! (and no MIC). It’s a limited supply, and getting more and more expensive. The average american tax-paying schmuck, myself included, can only afford so much in taxes going to the military and for our own gas/oil use. BTW- the US military is the largest user of oil/petrolem. Anyway- oil is actually a valuable “weapon” without which the military would be screwed, and they obviously know that too. Like, duh right?!

    So- enter the AGW/Global warming hoax. A hoax the likes of which only our beloved CIA could cook up and implement, God bless ‘em. Why did they do it?? Peak oil. They want, no, they (MIC) need it for themselves, to continue the domination of the world with. So, they get the sheeple and suckers alike to swallow AGW, so we cooperate with using less of the black gold. And they simultaneously help promote the use of ANYTHING else, especially that which makes the corporate world (and MIC) happy. Bingo! Nuclear is now the new energy darling on the block, again!

    So… whaddya think guys? Make sense?

  12. paul wenum January 25, 2011 at 11:18 pm #

    Theories with no substance? You fit the bill. As to global warming? It is a hoax in my own opinion and nobody else. GE with ties with the administration will make billions. Gee whiz, wonder why?

  13. Rob N. Hood January 26, 2011 at 9:57 am #

    Oh, ok, so GE is the lone bad actor Corporation. Thanks for clearing that up Paul.

    “The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media.”
    –William Colby, former CIA Director, cited by Dave Mcgowan, Derailing Democracy

    “You could get a journalist cheaper than a good call girl, for a couple hundred dollars a month.”
    –CIA operative, discussing the availability and prices of journalists willing to peddle CIA propaganda and cover stories. Katherine the Great, by Deborah Davis

    “There is quite an incredible spread of relationships. You don’t need to manipulate Time magazine, for example, because there are [Central Intelligence] Agency people at the management level.”
    –William B. Bader, former CIA intelligence officer, briefing members of the Senate Intelligence Committee, The CIA and the Media, by Carl Bernstein

    “The Agency’s relationship with [The New York] Times was by far its most valuable among newspapers, according to CIA officials. [It was] general Times policy … to provide assistance to the CIA whenever possible.”
    –The CIA and the Media, by Carl Bernstein

    “Senator William Proxmire has pegged the number of employees of the federal intelligence community at 148,000 … though Proxmire’s number is itself a conservative one. The “intelligence community” is officially defined as including only those organizations that are members of the U.S. Intelligence Board (USIB); a dozen other agencies, charged with both foreign and domestic intelligence chores, are not encompassed by the term…. The number of intelligence workers employed by the federal government is not 148,000, but some undetermined multiple of that number.”
    –Jim Hougan, Spooks

    “For some time I have been disturbed by the way the CIA has been diverted from its original assignment. It has become an operational and at times a policy-making arm of the government…. I never had any thought that when I set up the CIA that it would be injected into peacetime cloak and dagger operations.”
    –former President Harry Truman, 22 December 1963, one month after the JFK assassination, op-ed section of the Washington Post, early edition

  14. paul wenum January 26, 2011 at 9:15 pm #

    As posted before, my cousin was in the agency you are discussing. Retired early and died 1 1/2 years later in his late 40′s. To this day we still don’t know the cause. Been a mystery for years. No known cause of death. Interesting isn’t it?

  15. Rob N. Hood January 27, 2011 at 4:48 pm #

    Sort of… what’s your point?

  16. paul wenum January 27, 2011 at 10:57 pm #

    To you, nothing.

  17. Rob N. Hood January 29, 2011 at 4:00 pm #

    As usual… yawn.

  18. Rob N. Hood January 31, 2011 at 9:26 am #

    From 1921 to 2003 the Republican presidents had more years in office but created only 800,000 jobs per year compared to Democratic presidents with 1,800,000. On each domestic issue the Democratic presidents have, by far, the best record. Republicans can run only on Values not Issues. Their ideology gave us the Great Depression and Great Recession. Exact same policies they use today.

    Will they ruin America? They control the Major Corporations, Major Media, Wealth and Income. They had Total Control of our government for (2001-2006) six years and their belief in unrestricted Wall Street “Gambling” came close to destroying the world’s economy. And in a way they did; we are still recovering and may never recover fully. they knew they’d be bailed out- too big to fail, too big to jail.

    Their ideology, as in 1920s, created the Great Recession, as a result of Housing Tsunami, and Financial Volcano. Cut taxes for the rich, increase money supply, lower interest rates and encourage gambling on Wall Street. That is why, since the Great Depression, they have been called the Country Club Party.
    The new name is WSP Wall Street Party. Their true God has always been $$$$$. Their promotion of Values has been a diversionary tactic to keep attention off their failed Issues policies, which don’t fail them, they just get richer.

    What have they done to improve the Standard of Living of the Middle Class??? (That even sounds funny doesn’t it?)
    They talk Values but do not live them. They are phonies. They are, and support, pathological liars/sociopaths. The worse the better. They worship Lush Rimbaugh and his 10,000 lies (documented). Their ability to spread propaganda via MSM has enabled a world-wide Corporatist Fascism, a Right-wing Totalitarianism. Read the book 1984. The author was off by only 20 years or so…

  19. paul wenum January 31, 2011 at 11:10 pm #

    How much does the DNC pay you?

  20. Rob N. Hood February 4, 2011 at 8:56 am #

    Does the truth hurt Paul? I thought you valued the truth. Read “1984″, if you haven’t already done so.

  21. paul wenum February 5, 2011 at 1:14 am #

    Excellent book. Read it probably before you were born? “Truth” is sometimes reality. Something you may well think about absent your demeaning comments.

  22. Rob N. Hood February 7, 2011 at 7:39 am #

    MY demeaning comments? If you can’t take the politically-correct and Dan-approved comments on this site then you better get out. And you call yourself tough? More like bluff. And please look up the word “hypocrisy”. I really believe you don’t know what that is all about.

    • Dan McGrath February 7, 2011 at 7:27 pm #

      Don’t presume my lack of intervention is an endorsement. I’ve been insanely busy the past couple weeks on the 21st Century Voter ID bill and haven’t had the time to scrutinize comments. Police yourselves, please and play nice. When I return my attention more fully to GCS, I don’t want to have to start deleting comments wholesale. Issues issues issues – not personalities!

      http://www.globalclimatescam.com/posting-comments/

  23. paul wenum February 7, 2011 at 10:55 pm #

    Dan,

    we need Voter ID. Why do we have to have a Driver license to cash a check and don’t need one to vote? I must not be PC. Dan, Make it happen. Tired of voting and seeing idiots vouching for their “friends” that just came off a bus from God knows where!

  24. Rob N. Hood February 8, 2011 at 8:52 am #

    Wow- a thinly veiled racist rant from Paul. I’m shocked… shocked I tell you!!

    Paul would have been there ranting against the Irish, the Poles, etc. Damn those potato eaters!!!

    Hypocrite.

  25. paul wenum February 8, 2011 at 6:31 pm #

    Not a racist and by the way I love my potatos! Must be the scot in me.

  26. Rob N. Hood February 9, 2011 at 7:51 am #

    Oh, so it’s just poor people of any color that you hate? Equal opportunity hater are you?

  27. paul wenum February 9, 2011 at 7:25 pm #

    I was extemely poor once and numerous friends of mine are of a different color and as you know my hunting partner is black as well as my VP of Operations. And your point against voter registration is what? A person from Canada can simply fly here and vote? Ok, let’s bring the 1-k kids in as well. Oops, cannot do that, they cannot legally vote. They have a library card! What’s the problem???? Get real.

  28. paul wenum February 9, 2011 at 7:29 pm #

    Correction. Meant K-12. There is a difference especially if your library card is out-dated.

  29. Rob N. Hood February 10, 2011 at 7:15 am #

    A person from Canada cannot just fly here and vote. Never heard of even one case like that…ever. However, a wealthy individual or corporation can dump loads of money into political races quite legally now, anonymously, and you apparently think that’s OK? Really?? You like the idea of our actual enemies (not Canada, not yet) influencing or even out-right buying our poltical leaders? THAT is what you should be worried about. But your Right-wing brainwashers have you looking the other way at a bright shining string of beads… See how that works? No, I guess you don’t, won’t, never will.

  30. paul wenum February 10, 2011 at 7:40 pm #

    Give us a break. In college you get an ID, when you are 21 you show your license to purchase an alcoholic beverage, cigarettes, cash a check, write a check, open a bank account, renew your license tabs et al.(I renewed my tabs lately and there were numerous people that recently moved here from another country and My God, they had to show an identity card as to who they were and they did) You must be a member of a labor union are ya? Silent ballot eh? No? The other way? Voting is a right for a US citizen. That said, simply have proof and that is called an ID card. If not, you have something to hide do ya? When I was a bouncer in college if you had no ID you were outta there asap and over half I checked were fake. That was over 45 years ago. Today you can produce a card for every voter that shows a simple drivers license or any other legal document etc. Just what is the problem with this other than less unsavory characters voting that legally shouldn’t! Very simple. Finally, in most States to prosecute someone for wrting a bad check you must pass the identity factor. If the clerk does not view the Drivers license, write it on the check and sign their initials they never identified the issuer or person that uttered the check and a person stuck with the bad check cannot prosecute. let’s make it normal when we vote that we show that we are the correct person that is allowed into to the booth to a major decision. Enough said.

    • Dan McGrath February 10, 2011 at 8:22 pm #

      Don’t disagree. As much as election integrity is a passion of mine, let’s not sidetrack discussion with it, though.

  31. paul wenum February 10, 2011 at 11:27 pm #

    Dan, this guy gets my dander up. That’s all. I will keep my emotions (heated) out of the equation going forward. I’m just sick of hearing constantly about the Florida fiasco, Gore V Bush 2000. Hanging shads, chads, whatever they called them. Have your simple card available. I can buy a phone card at Walmart for pennies that will cross the world with my voice but we cannot have a voter registration card? Unreal! Oh well, must be my old age I guess. Wisdom/common sense left when the net came into bloom. Hopefully not.

  32. Rob N. Hood February 11, 2011 at 6:46 am #

    Paul you are the epitomy of the self-destructive citizen. You say you’ve read the book “1984.” If you did, you apparenlty learned NOTHING by it. Maybe try “A Brave New World.” Or not. Why bother if you aren’t open to actual learning?

    And Dan, I have to say a little bit about “election integrity.” You people are amazingly intent on creating a fascist society. You say you want freedoms, and yet you turn on a dime every time to support the constriction and control of anything deemed necessary by the right-wing elite. I think most Libertarians are, deep-down, intense Authoritarians. How’s that you ask?! You want things YOUR way, and you will support any freedom killing thing to get to your own personal utopia. Like minded people then band together and the utopia in their minds excludes many other people who don’t fit in it. THAT is a definition of Authoritarian.

    Plus, with privately owned and operated electronic voting machines (by people who are Republicans) there IS NO ELECTION INTEGRITY. And before those criminally used machines existed there were/still are MANY other devious and effective ways to subvert the voting publics’ wishes. Your focus on the above as a solution to that is simply ludicrous and extremely absurd.

  33. Rob N. Hood February 11, 2011 at 2:33 pm #

    I take part of that back. The above is only ludicrous and absurd if you believe that lack of photo ID is truly a voter fraud issue significant to be of any concern (which is isn’t). The voter ID scam’s sole intent, by those a bit more sophisticated than you are apparently, is to reduce the number of poor and minority voters votes. Plain and simple. It’s anti-democracy, and anti-American. The people behind such sham initiatives have no shame, no morals, no ethics, just greed.

    • Dan McGrath February 11, 2011 at 4:48 pm #

      You brought that tub of BS to the wrong blog, there boyo. The Kiffmeyer-Benson 21st Century Voter ID bill (HF210) bends over backwards to make sure no one is disenfranchised. In fact, it expands the voting franchise by providing another alternative to vote that would give people who are currently turned away due to lack of utility bill or voucher another chance to vote with a provisional ballot, giving them a full week after voting to demonstrate their identity and residency.

      People who would commit voter fraud are anti-American. It undermines the entire concept of self-governance. Stealing a vote from a legitimate voter is abhorrent.

      (whiny little punk voice): ewww. but there is no voter frauuuud or haaardleee anyyy. some dipwad at common cause minnesota saiiiid soooo….

      Wrong!

      In 2008, we “elected” Senator Franken by a margin of 312 votes. Minnesota Majority’s research initially flagged 2,803 suspected ineligible felon voters in that election and referred them to the various county attorneys.

      (whiny punk voice): eeeewwwww… but some other dipwads at CEI said Minnesota Majority’s research waaass all wrooonggg because there were only 28 people conviiiicted…..

      Wrong!

      CEI also found that the overwhelming majority of cases declined for charges were because the ineligible voter claimed ignorance of their ineligible status. In order to be convicted for voter fraud in Minnesota, the prosecutors must prove not only that you did it, but that you knew it was wrong. Minnesota’s election laws are one place where “I didn’t know” is a valid legal defense. The ballots were still illegal and should not have been counted, even if convictions didn’t follow. I call those “limbo votes.”

      There have, by the way, been over 100 convictions from 2008 (it’s taken over two years to get that far), hundreds more are still under investigation and 78 more are currently awaiting trial. These are record numbers in Minnesota. Know why? Nobody ever looked for it before Minnesota Majority did. We later flagged an additional 2,000 suspected ineligible voters we’re still veting and will shortly forward to county attorneys for investigation.

      40 people were charged for double voting across the Minnesota Wisconsin border from the 2008 election – not because Secretary Ritchie or some Minnesota election officials caught it – because some concerned citizens in Wisconsin caught it!

      Over 23,000 election day registrants in 2008 provided addresses that could not be verified afterwards. That’s 5% of all election day registrants.

      Further, these findings are only based on things we can check for, because there are lists. Without voter ID, there is no conceivable way to ever catch people making up phony identities.

      (whiny little punk puke voice): but but but there’s never been a conviction for voter impersonnnation and besides, it’s a felony so nobodddy would evvvverrr do that!

      OK. Stealing cars is a felony. Lets get rid of ignition keys and replace them with a notice, “Warning: Stealing this car is felony.” Votes control BILLIONS and TRILLIONS of dollars and there is no lock (voter ID). Really think nobody would try to steal votes? The big deterrant of felony charges has resulted in $50 fines – the equivalent of a parking ticket and the historical odds of being caught are miniscule. Nice deterrent.

      Don’t bring those Progressive Minnesota, CEI, Common Cause, ACORN BS talking points to regurgitate here. There is no debate. That’s ALL bull and I have all the facts and the evidence. Period. I’ve devoted the last 2.5 years of my life to researching Minnesota’s election issues and I contributed to the crafting of HF210. My expertise on the subject of election integrity in Minnesota is unrivaled. That’s not boasting.

      Now back to debating AGW. Debate Voter ID at http://www.wewantvoterid.com but don’t bring that ignorant garbage from the radical leftist noise machine with you, you’ll only be shamed if you do.

  34. paul wenum February 11, 2011 at 11:20 pm #

    My God Dan, we all needed that! Facts are a wonderful thing. Keep it up.

  35. Rob N. Hood February 13, 2011 at 4:59 pm #

    Dan, those people could already use a utility bill etc. to be able to vote. I know, I’ve done it. So I don’t know what you are talking about boyo. And thanks for avoiding the HUGE and really democracy killing issue of Citizens vs. US. And IF your number of 5% un-verifiable voters, and 100 (!!! underwhelming NUMBER!!!) “convictions” is true then OMG!!!!!!!, what in the world are you worried about???!!! Wow- ANOTHER deluded non-issue RED-HERRING from the Right-wing echo chamber. You guys are good. At democracy killing evil, that is.

  36. Rob N. Hood February 13, 2011 at 5:00 pm #

    And save your whiny little punk puke voice for yourself. It fits.

  37. paul wenum February 13, 2011 at 7:29 pm #

    My God, is Rob Michael Moore or Al Franken? Sounds like Air America comments before they went bankrupt for nobody listening. Sense sour grapes from Mr Stealing Hood..

  38. Rob N. Hood February 14, 2011 at 9:13 am #

    No Paul- just trying to hold Dan accountable like he does for the rest of us- and keep God out of this, it’s too petty for Him. To Dan’s credit he didn’t delete my comment above.

    [rest of comment about voter ID deleted]

    [Nope, but I'm deleting this one. I asked you to take the voter ID discussion elsewhere and provided a convenient forum: http://www.wewantvoterid.com - As I said election integrity is a passion of mine, but that's not the point of this site. - moderator]

  39. paul wenum February 14, 2011 at 8:21 pm #

    Thank you Sir!

  40. Rob N. Hood February 15, 2011 at 8:43 am #

    Awww, Dan finally succumbed to his Right-wing nature. I wonder if the stuff he deleted about voting (not just “voter ID”) was very accurate and logical. I guess we’ll never know. Dan chose to censor it. Oh well, he has been quite patient with me so far. Dan, like may Rightys, possesses a twisted sense of logic, that is if they truly believe what they believe. Otherwise, he and other Rightys are just tools (for other reasons) of the powerful elite. I guess it’s probably both.

    • Dan McGrath February 15, 2011 at 9:38 am #

      Your post was neither accurate nor logical (surprise). I already told you to take the discussion elsewhere. Feel free to rant away about voter ID at http://www.WeWantVoterID.com

  41. Rob N. Hood February 15, 2011 at 4:52 pm #

    [off topic post deleted]

  42. paul wenum February 15, 2011 at 7:58 pm #

    I sense Dan got Mr. Hood’s dander up? Excellent!

  43. Rob N. Hood February 16, 2011 at 7:43 am #

    No- just another statement re: voter ID. It is Dan who has the dander, and it is UP. So sorry, your sense is wrong. First time for everything, eh Paul?

  44. paul wenum February 16, 2011 at 10:32 pm #

    No comment needed. You answered the question by yourself. I note you get your dander up when you are confronted by facts Eh?

  45. Rob N. Hood February 17, 2011 at 7:37 am #

    Make believe whatever you want Paul. You do anyway.

  46. Rob N. Hood February 17, 2011 at 2:16 pm #

    13 reasons why Clinton was a better president than St. Ronnie.

    1.JOBS—grew by 43% more under Clinton.
    2.GDP—grew by 57% more under Clinton.
    3.DOW—grew by 700% more under Clinton..
    4. MARKET CAP INCREASE—Clinton + 330%–Reagan + 136%
    5.NASDAQ-grew by 18 times as much under Clinton.
    6.SPENDING–grew by 28% under Clinton—80% under Reagan.
    7.DEBT—grew by 43% under Clinton—187% under Reagan.
    8. DEFICITS—Clinton got a large surplus–grew by 112% under Reagan.
    9.NATIONAL INCOME—grew by 100% more under Clinton.
    10.PERSONAL INCOME—Grew by 110% more under Clinton.
    11.MEDIAN FAMILY INCOME-grew by 75% more under Clinton
    12. DEFENSE BUDGETED-Clinton -2311B—Reagan-2062B (current $)
    13.UNEMPLOYMENT—AVG—Clinton 5.2%–Reagan 7.6%

    SOURCES—Bureau of Labor Statistics (www.BLS.Gov)–Economic Policy Institute (EPI.org)—Global & World Almanacs from 1980 to 2003 (annual issues).
    http://www.the-hamster.com (chart taken from NY Times)
    National Archives History on Presidents. http://www.nara.gov
    LA Times 10-11-00 on Market–www.Find articles.com
    Federal Budget.Com 2009

    A vote for a Conservative is a vote for Less Success.
    A vote to reduce the Standard of Living for all Americans.

    Recall 1920’s and Wall Street under Conservative control?
    Recall 2000-2008 and Wall Street under Conservative control?

    Want more of those years? It will take many years to recover.

  47. Rob N. Hood February 17, 2011 at 3:42 pm #

    Boehner pork-pie:

    Both President Obama and his predecessor have for five years tried to eliminate funding for program to develop a backup fighter-jet engine, but Congress has funded it anyway. USA Today noted that the program runs upwards of $450 million annually, enjoys strong bipartisan support, and has been lobbied for aggressively by the engine’s developer, General Electric.

    Gates has called it a “an unnecessary and extravagant expense.” Nonetheless, as House Republicans consider measures to fund the government for the remainder of this fiscal year, they’re working on a bill that preserves the funding for the alternate engine program, Reuters reported.

    One of the program’s prominent supporters has been House Speaker John Boehner, who has argued that producing a backup engine would encourage competition and result in a better product. The Columbus Dispatch notes that the plant where this engine is built is near Boehner’s district, prompting critics to call it essentially a pork-barrel project that runs counter to House Republicans’ earmark ban.

  48. paul wenum February 19, 2011 at 12:58 am #

    I now see why you have three jobs. Only two are for profit and another is to pass on your Left wing Liberal agenda. I seriously believe that you would never have to work two jobs if you devoted your time to real work. That said, most left/left wingers that I have talked to seem to shout and argue a lot and interrupt people when attempting to make a simple one sentence point or statement. Their voices raise up and the hands start flying and fingers pointing. If asked to get a question in they scream, “Hitler!, Fascist, Neanderthal, Racist, slum lord, don’t care, Bush did it ” et al. Other than that, you are simply a plant by the left wing. I’m very proud to sincerely know who you are my friend.

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