Comments on: Climate Emails Stoke Debate

By: paul wenum

paul wenum — Wed, 02 Dec 2009 05:00:15 +0000

We are American’s. We are the the taxpayers. We are the people. We vote our people in or out of office. What are you missing Boy?? We are the GOVERNMENT! Did you ever read about our system and how it was formed? Finally, the military has it “Easy”?? Tell that to a Mother of a Marine, Sailor, Army et al. It’s not “easy” covering your arse so that you can spew what you want on this blog! You have a luxury that most countries will never have. Say a prayer for them tonight my friend!

By: Rob N. Hood

Rob N. Hood — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 14:55:17 +0000

You assume a lot, as has been pointed out before. I have been in charge of employees and the expenses for a small business. I also currently, and have always, worked under very tight budget constraints- i.e. I don’t work for the military industrial complex, now those guys have it EASY. They get all the money they want ALL the time, except for FINALLY one axed Fighter Jet that no one needs. None of us would complain about our taxes if the government cut where most of the waste really is. But as long as the fascists remain in power this kind of theft from the public will not end.

Wake up America.

By: paul wenum

paul wenum — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 03:04:43 +0000

It is apparent that you have never been accountable for the bottom line of a company. Small, medium or large. You simply read everything from books that are all theory. You have never been in the real world from what I have read. When you are accountable for an employees salary, you would change your mind.

By: Rob N. Hood

Rob N. Hood — Mon, 30 Nov 2009 17:45:06 +0000

I support many things that are Green. You are just mad because the guys you list above are “liberal” and you guys hate to see Liberals get rich. Your precious Repubs now that is another story. That is hypocrisy. Oh, I know, you will say it’s because of what they represent not because they are Liberal, but I know better.

Do I agree with Cap n Trade? Not really, no. Like Neil you don’t pay attention to what I have said previously or even in the most recent post. No THAT is annoying.

By: paul wenum

paul wenum — Mon, 30 Nov 2009 03:48:26 +0000

No Robby Boy, I have always said that there are good apples and bad apples, be it corporations, LLC’s or individuals like you and I. Let’s put it this way, I do not support any GE product any longer. Very simple. They are in business to make a profit. Absent buyers, they are out of business. Very simple as I state. Question to you: Do you “Buy/Support Al Gore/Soro’s CORPORATIONS????” They are all “Green” you know!!!!! Let me know hypocrite!

By: Rob N. Hood

Rob N. Hood — Sun, 29 Nov 2009 14:27:27 +0000

Paul, are you bashing corporations!?! What’s up with that? You have demonized me numerous times for doing it… Or is this just more of your hypocrisy?

By: paul wenum

paul wenum — Sun, 29 Nov 2009 06:22:10 +0000

Dan, I agree with you 100%. How do you back down after the investments have been made? GE, Soros, Gore, et al with, as we all agree, corporate clout/backing/billions invested that could dissappear in a heartbeat? It’s called covering your investment saving face as well as your backside/stockholders. Sad, but true. Desperate people make desperate decisions. Look at Our President stopping in at Copenhagen. Nothing changes. YET!

By: Recalcitrant

Recalcitrant — Sun, 29 Nov 2009 01:38:22 +0000

RobN- We both see that there is a corruption. We disagree on the solution, which is fine, but it strikes me as a bit absurd that you can earnestly and intellectually proclaim that it is other peoples biases that obscure the irrefutability of your proscribed solution while (incredibly) ignoring your own. Aren’t you biased against Capitialism? I suggest you (we) guard more against arrogance, which might lead to the beleif that your (our) conclusions are supreme.
I hesitate to point this out, but that is the pourpose of this forum and I’m sure this will not discourage the disent so neccessaqry to reach clear understanding.

By: Rob N. Hood

Rob N. Hood — Sat, 28 Nov 2009 15:28:25 +0000

Dan- one of your best posts so far, becasue you keep (mostly) sensationalism and bias out of it. Now, you need to take the next step, and stop blaming Liberals for it all. It isn’t just them. It is the entire capitalistic system that is to blame, AND our political system which is entirely corrupted. Am I saying we need to end capitalism. No, and never have said that. Until you and your followers start thinking without any biases (or at least much less of them) we as a country will not stop the down-sliding that is occurring, and has been occurring for decades.

End your biases and be truly “patriotic”. That is your challenge.

By: Btok

Btok — Sat, 28 Nov 2009 06:24:54 +0000

http://www.infowars.com/climate-gate-is-your-fight/
http://gnosis474.blogspot.com/2009/11/climate-gate-is-your-fight.html
November 27, 2009
Those in the know are fully aware that the mainstream media is nothing more than the propaganda arm of the State. You’re reading this, so you’re probably one of those people. It is so easy to fall into the mental trap that, if you know something, then how can it not be common knowledge? The sheep don’t even know what the carbon tax is, or what’s at stake in Copenhagen. They are completely and utterly clueless.
For the rest of us, the fight is joined. The globalists have thrown their best punches while we played rope-a-dope. Even before this scandal broke, they were running out of gas. Their gloves were heavy. A global agreement to supposedly cut carbon emissions, if you believed what the media told you (I don’t), was in already in jeopardy prior to the release of the hacked emails. These revelations are a flurry of knockout blows, if only we’re able to break through the media blackout and propaganda protecting these criminals from being fully exposed. The media will not be our ally in this.
The globalists, the eugenicists, are in this for the long haul. All of their eggs are in the climate hoax basket. They’re not going to stop now. Why would they? We all know this was never about climate change in the first place. We knew that they knew that it was the sun driving the climate, and that temperatures haven’t risen in at least ten years. If this were about saving the Earth – if they truly were not evil, just wrong, as the newest documentary naively suggests – then the climate scientists would’ve packed it in a long time ago.
No, what this is and always was about is an excuse for global government. This they certainly do not deny. Ban Ki-Moon, the UN Secretary General, penned an op-ed in the New York Times last month in which he called for a global government funded by carbon taxes. The new president of the European Union, Herman van Rompuy, said that 2009 was the first year of global governance, and that the Copenhagen climate conference would be “another step towards the global management of our planet”. In July, Al Gore spoke at Oxford University and stated that global governance, funded by the Waxman-Markey cap and trade tax which will be voted upon in the Senate within the coming weeks, is necessary for combating “climate change”.
The globalist plan for world government – the elimination of national sovereignty, ie the destruction of the United States of America – must be fully exposed. We know that this scheme is completely unknown to the vast majority of people. Perhaps now that Glenn Beck is finally speaking of this conspiracy, the Fox “News” crowd will get their heads out of their rears and realize it’s not “liberals” behind this, it’s globalists – there are prominent Republicans and so-called conservative leaders pushing this as well. Unfortunately, because Beck and Fox actively promote the left-right paradigm, the establishment will still try to paint the issue as an attack by right wing hacks and special interests.
Whatever, is happening to my family’s and my lifestyle without us having our say? Find out go to: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VebOTc-7shU

By: Dan McGrath

Dan McGrath — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 10:22:30 +0000

You’re close. In my observation credibility isn’t even a serious issue anymore. Money is the prime motivator. Cap and trade represents a whole new industry that’s been in the works for decades. It’s an industry worth TRILLIONS of dollars, if they can just pass carbon caps in some way. They intend to essentially rent the air. God isn’t making any more land, so if one organization can OWN the atmosphere, imagine the “real” estate profits. More accurately, “fakeestate” profits. The scammers are trying to rent us air! They will press on to the bitter end. The money at stake exceeds the annual US GDP. It’s tremendous - and considerable funds have already been invested to make it happen. It will be hard for politicians and their corporate backers to walk away from.

By: Ben

Ben — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 06:04:58 +0000

This release of evidence is powerful ammunition, but governments and media institutions have invested too much time, effort, and most especially, credibility, into the “CO2 is satan” theory to back off now. It will still take a lot of hard work and activism just to get this message out as broadly as it needs to be, and a lot more hard work after that.

By: Doug Kinton

Doug Kinton — Wed, 25 Nov 2009 03:52:51 +0000

I am surprised that there is not an international uproar over the falsification of data. This revelation will slow down the religion of AGW. Perhaps we should stop and investigate to see if there really GW as opposed to a climate change which has been going on since the earth was created.