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	<title>Comments on: Senate Testimony of Sec. Chu Refuted, Says SPPI</title>
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		<title>By: Paul Wenum</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Wenum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 04:41:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Philip, Thank you. Unfortunately the vast majority of Americans that I talk to have no clue.  Yes, the are the &quot;Robby Boys&quot; of the world that have never experienced, seen, heard, lived with other climates, cultures and ideas.  I will read your attachment, but that said, American&#039;s have to wake up someday and get away from the &quot;blame you, blame me&quot; finger pointing with no thought other than what they see in the media, be it print, TV or radio. Oprah is more powerful in our country then our President!!  Now that is a scare point that makes my gut wretch!  George Orwell was right, unfortunately.  Finally, I agree on your one point specific, &quot;Follow the money.&quot;  Gore, Soros, GE et al.  That, you never read in our so called unbiased media.  Thanks again, Philip!!  I needed your post as well as others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Philip, Thank you. Unfortunately the vast majority of Americans that I talk to have no clue.  Yes, the are the &#8220;Robby Boys&#8221; of the world that have never experienced, seen, heard, lived with other climates, cultures and ideas.  I will read your attachment, but that said, American&#8217;s have to wake up someday and get away from the &#8220;blame you, blame me&#8221; finger pointing with no thought other than what they see in the media, be it print, TV or radio. Oprah is more powerful in our country then our President!!  Now that is a scare point that makes my gut wretch!  George Orwell was right, unfortunately.  Finally, I agree on your one point specific, &#8220;Follow the money.&#8221;  Gore, Soros, GE et al.  That, you never read in our so called unbiased media.  Thanks again, Philip!!  I needed your post as well as others.</p>
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		<title>By: Philip Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.globalclimatescam.com/2009/10/senate-testimony-of-sec-chu-refuted-says-sppi/comment-page-1/#comment-5045</link>
		<dc:creator>Philip Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 05:14:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It appears that Rob has his nose a bit out of joint. How dare we not agree with his reality.

I have a few good reasons, anybody who quotes Government scientists or the totally discredited IPCC research, is missing the point.

Scientific research is a process not a destination, ergo one can not simply take a bit of 10 year old research and ignore current findings of new research.

No sane person can credit Al Gore&#039;s attempt at scaring people seriously, the basic science is not there and the extrapolations made are completely wrong, and can be scientifically shown to be wrong, even using IPCC old and new climate science reports.

This has also been re-enforced by the British courts who declared the film to be unscientific, and most of Mr. Gore&#039;s claims and assertions to be  untrue.

That should dispense with the self serving Mr. Gore. - case closed.

Climate change proponents behave like all zealots - you either agree with ALL their claims or you are labeled as a skeptic.

Climate change is a natural  phenomena, at this stage we are not sure if it will get hotter or colder ( yep that is true ). The claim that man made carbon is the guilty party has no science to support it, in scientific research shows that exactly the oppsoite is true.

This leads us to a simple position in a quest for clarity - follow the money - who is making it now and why - who wants to make even more tomorrow and into the future.  

Anybody who wants to follow the science has a problem - On the one hand we have a stream of new research and on the other we have the zealots who will stick to their beliefs despite any real scientific research.


In addition to  that I would like to point to a previous group who behaved in exactly the same way as today&#039;s climate zealots.

Please read up on Eugenics - you might ask what this has to do with anything, well here we had a bunch of people who believed that some people deserved to live and others did not.

The supporters included lots of prominent people, politicians, bankers, financiers, universities and more.

This was an international movement supported by almost every country in the world.

The looked down on all who did not agree and called them heritics, unbelievers, skeptics and much more.

Legislation was enacted and in California alone some 65,000 people were sterilized under these laws.

Then our good friend Adolf Hitler decided that he would use these same beliefs and apply it a bit better than the other countries. and we know what happened then.

At Nuremberg, the Nazi officials pointed out that they were simply implementing the same &quot;science&quot;  put forward by the West. 

If you are brave, read this and then maybe the likes of rob can put his head back in the sand.

http://www.globalclimatescam.com/?p=673


Philip Smith

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It appears that Rob has his nose a bit out of joint. How dare we not agree with his reality.</p>
<p>I have a few good reasons, anybody who quotes Government scientists or the totally discredited IPCC research, is missing the point.</p>
<p>Scientific research is a process not a destination, ergo one can not simply take a bit of 10 year old research and ignore current findings of new research.</p>
<p>No sane person can credit Al Gore&#8217;s attempt at scaring people seriously, the basic science is not there and the extrapolations made are completely wrong, and can be scientifically shown to be wrong, even using IPCC old and new climate science reports.</p>
<p>This has also been re-enforced by the British courts who declared the film to be unscientific, and most of Mr. Gore&#8217;s claims and assertions to be  untrue.</p>
<p>That should dispense with the self serving Mr. Gore. &#8211; case closed.</p>
<p>Climate change proponents behave like all zealots &#8211; you either agree with ALL their claims or you are labeled as a skeptic.</p>
<p>Climate change is a natural  phenomena, at this stage we are not sure if it will get hotter or colder ( yep that is true ). The claim that man made carbon is the guilty party has no science to support it, in scientific research shows that exactly the oppsoite is true.</p>
<p>This leads us to a simple position in a quest for clarity &#8211; follow the money &#8211; who is making it now and why &#8211; who wants to make even more tomorrow and into the future.  </p>
<p>Anybody who wants to follow the science has a problem &#8211; On the one hand we have a stream of new research and on the other we have the zealots who will stick to their beliefs despite any real scientific research.</p>
<p>In addition to  that I would like to point to a previous group who behaved in exactly the same way as today&#8217;s climate zealots.</p>
<p>Please read up on Eugenics &#8211; you might ask what this has to do with anything, well here we had a bunch of people who believed that some people deserved to live and others did not.</p>
<p>The supporters included lots of prominent people, politicians, bankers, financiers, universities and more.</p>
<p>This was an international movement supported by almost every country in the world.</p>
<p>The looked down on all who did not agree and called them heritics, unbelievers, skeptics and much more.</p>
<p>Legislation was enacted and in California alone some 65,000 people were sterilized under these laws.</p>
<p>Then our good friend Adolf Hitler decided that he would use these same beliefs and apply it a bit better than the other countries. and we know what happened then.</p>
<p>At Nuremberg, the Nazi officials pointed out that they were simply implementing the same &#8220;science&#8221;  put forward by the West. </p>
<p>If you are brave, read this and then maybe the likes of rob can put his head back in the sand.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.globalclimatescam.com/?p=673" rel="nofollow">http://www.globalclimatescam.com/?p=673</a></p>
<p>Philip Smith</p>
<p>Australia</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Wenum</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Wenum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 02:49:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry that you do not travel as I have over the years.  You would have an entirely different outlook on things such as different  cultures, lifestyles, etc.  Believe what you want.  Does not bother me in the least.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry that you do not travel as I have over the years.  You would have an entirely different outlook on things such as different  cultures, lifestyles, etc.  Believe what you want.  Does not bother me in the least.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob N. Hood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob N. Hood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 16:53:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry Paul but I don&#039;t beleive you.  Maybe, just maybe you are referring to ONE glacier.  But you seem to have been everywhere and talked to all the right people no matter what issue comes up.  

And Fred- GREAT IDEA!  But I wouldn&#039;t just target religion like that but it would sure help!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Paul but I don&#8217;t beleive you.  Maybe, just maybe you are referring to ONE glacier.  But you seem to have been everywhere and talked to all the right people no matter what issue comes up.  </p>
<p>And Fred- GREAT IDEA!  But I wouldn&#8217;t just target religion like that but it would sure help!</p>
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		<title>By: Martyn Spence</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martyn Spence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 15:00:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This side of the pond we have UK and EU politicians hinting that global warming denial should become a crime in much the same way as Holocaust denial already is in Germany.  The difference is, of course, that the Holocaust is indisputable but global warming, so far as I can see, is not yet proven and if it were to be so, those who denied it could simply be ignored.
When the champions of global warming feel that they must denigrate or attack those of opposite views they expose the potential weakness of their position and are themselves in denial of the possibility of there being a contrary but valid argument.  
To suggest or even think about making denial of global warming a crime further weakens their position and we are moving towards a very dangerous stage indeed, to the point where â€˜theyâ€™ could say â€œwe disagree with you so we are going to throw you in gaol to shut you upâ€.  
Thatâ€™ll work, wonâ€™t it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This side of the pond we have UK and EU politicians hinting that global warming denial should become a crime in much the same way as Holocaust denial already is in Germany.  The difference is, of course, that the Holocaust is indisputable but global warming, so far as I can see, is not yet proven and if it were to be so, those who denied it could simply be ignored.<br />
When the champions of global warming feel that they must denigrate or attack those of opposite views they expose the potential weakness of their position and are themselves in denial of the possibility of there being a contrary but valid argument.<br />
To suggest or even think about making denial of global warming a crime further weakens their position and we are moving towards a very dangerous stage indeed, to the point where â€˜theyâ€™ could say â€œwe disagree with you so we are going to throw you in gaol to shut you upâ€.<br />
Thatâ€™ll work, wonâ€™t it?</p>
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		<title>By: Fred Allen Sowder</title>
		<link>http://www.globalclimatescam.com/2009/10/senate-testimony-of-sec-chu-refuted-says-sppi/comment-page-1/#comment-4940</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred Allen Sowder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:40:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Limited government is the answer. A 25% tax payable through our churches and mosques is the only tax we need!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Limited government is the answer. A 25% tax payable through our churches and mosques is the only tax we need!</p>
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		<title>By: paul wenum</title>
		<link>http://www.globalclimatescam.com/2009/10/senate-testimony-of-sec-chu-refuted-says-sppi/comment-page-1/#comment-4888</link>
		<dc:creator>paul wenum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 04:38:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have been there, seen the glaciers, talked to scientists.  Have you seen a glacier, walked it, talked to the people that live with them daily as a scientist?  I doubt it!, I have. Or do you simply have Al Gore&#039;s web-page memorized?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have been there, seen the glaciers, talked to scientists.  Have you seen a glacier, walked it, talked to the people that live with them daily as a scientist?  I doubt it!, I have. Or do you simply have Al Gore&#8217;s web-page memorized?</p>
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		<title>By: Rob N. Hood</title>
		<link>http://www.globalclimatescam.com/2009/10/senate-testimony-of-sec-chu-refuted-says-sppi/comment-page-1/#comment-4870</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob N. Hood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:54:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gosh Paul, you had your chance.  You&#039;ve even taken me to task many times for the same reason, and NOW YOU BAIL ON IT???!!!  

Enough said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gosh Paul, you had your chance.  You&#8217;ve even taken me to task many times for the same reason, and NOW YOU BAIL ON IT???!!!  </p>
<p>Enough said.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Wenum</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Wenum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 02:18:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ask any scientist that studies Glaciers and then you will understand. I don&#039;t have to write 50 &quot;quotes&quot; out of a paper handed to me.  Go to the source.  Enough said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ask any scientist that studies Glaciers and then you will understand. I don&#8217;t have to write 50 &#8220;quotes&#8221; out of a paper handed to me.  Go to the source.  Enough said.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob N. Hood</title>
		<link>http://www.globalclimatescam.com/2009/10/senate-testimony-of-sec-chu-refuted-says-sppi/comment-page-1/#comment-4823</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob N. Hood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 20:42:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pauly Boy, it&#039;s who who is the Ostrich.  Does the Ostrich know he&#039;s an Ostrich?  Nope.

Your response that all school children know that glaciers grow and shrink is a perfect example of your reasoning process.  Simplistic and attached to an attack.   You even throw in there that is it scientific fact.  You certainly like to cherry-pick your scientific &quot;facts.&quot;  Funny how you ignore or attack other &quot;facts&quot; blithely.  As all ( I won&#039;t say school chidren, because what I am about to add is something most people don&#039;t understand until high school or beyond that) adults know, or should know, that most of science is not exact.  Some of it is, of course, otherwise we wouldn&#039;t be able to planes, or even drive cars.  But some is not exact.  However, a majority of scientists believe that there is something wrong with &quot;climate change&quot; and that certain gases are to blame and that many if not most of the gases are connected to human activity.  That is all they are saying basically.  A reasonable person would not dismiss this majority as definitely as deniers do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pauly Boy, it&#8217;s who who is the Ostrich.  Does the Ostrich know he&#8217;s an Ostrich?  Nope.</p>
<p>Your response that all school children know that glaciers grow and shrink is a perfect example of your reasoning process.  Simplistic and attached to an attack.   You even throw in there that is it scientific fact.  You certainly like to cherry-pick your scientific &#8220;facts.&#8221;  Funny how you ignore or attack other &#8220;facts&#8221; blithely.  As all ( I won&#8217;t say school chidren, because what I am about to add is something most people don&#8217;t understand until high school or beyond that) adults know, or should know, that most of science is not exact.  Some of it is, of course, otherwise we wouldn&#8217;t be able to planes, or even drive cars.  But some is not exact.  However, a majority of scientists believe that there is something wrong with &#8220;climate change&#8221; and that certain gases are to blame and that many if not most of the gases are connected to human activity.  That is all they are saying basically.  A reasonable person would not dismiss this majority as definitely as deniers do.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan McGrath</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan McGrath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 16:53:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Huh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huh?</p>
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		<title>By: paul wenum</title>
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		<dc:creator>paul wenum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 05:00:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robby Boy, Why the heck are you such a &quot;Ostrich&quot;?  Remember, I don&#039;t swear.  Must be my religious upbringing?, or is that taboo today as well?  Glaciers expand and retract. That is a scientific fact.  Even a fourth grader knows that. that is unless, they are singing songs &quot;praising Obama!&quot;  Later &quot;Saul&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robby Boy, Why the heck are you such a &#8220;Ostrich&#8221;?  Remember, I don&#8217;t swear.  Must be my religious upbringing?, or is that taboo today as well?  Glaciers expand and retract. That is a scientific fact.  Even a fourth grader knows that. that is unless, they are singing songs &#8220;praising Obama!&#8221;  Later &#8220;Saul&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Jorge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jorge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 21:59:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Support for Tikkun&#039;s premise is found in recent history. A well known Scientist announced his findings that the sun was indeed the center of our planetary system and he was ridiculed, harassed, threatened and eventually persecuted, even though no one could dispute his claims.
We now have the religion of &#039;globwarms&#039; who now deny the facts when presented to them. They fall back on faith in their bogus &#039;research models&#039; to keep them comfy. Please refer to the definition of dogma. That is the last refuge for these people when confronted with truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Support for Tikkun&#8217;s premise is found in recent history. A well known Scientist announced his findings that the sun was indeed the center of our planetary system and he was ridiculed, harassed, threatened and eventually persecuted, even though no one could dispute his claims.<br />
We now have the religion of &#8216;globwarms&#8217; who now deny the facts when presented to them. They fall back on faith in their bogus &#8216;research models&#8217; to keep them comfy. Please refer to the definition of dogma. That is the last refuge for these people when confronted with truth.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob N. Hood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob N. Hood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 20:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And Tikkun- the denier term is an accurate description, and not used pejoratively by me.  If you want to be sensitive about it go right ahead.  And from my viewpoint, it is the denier phenomenon that appears religious and cult-like.  I guess it just depends on how you look at it, huh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And Tikkun- the denier term is an accurate description, and not used pejoratively by me.  If you want to be sensitive about it go right ahead.  And from my viewpoint, it is the denier phenomenon that appears religious and cult-like.  I guess it just depends on how you look at it, huh?</p>
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		<title>By: Rob N. Hood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob N. Hood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 20:09:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, sorry Dan, I didn&#039;t see your post.  You are even more inane than Lloyd was.  I wasn&#039;t sure that was possible- that is until I saw your scholarly post.  Wow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, sorry Dan, I didn&#8217;t see your post.  You are even more inane than Lloyd was.  I wasn&#8217;t sure that was possible- that is until I saw your scholarly post.  Wow.</p>
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