Comments on: Small Businesses Irate Over Climate Change Bill

By: Paul Wenum

Paul Wenum — Wed, 05 Aug 2009 01:33:21 +0000

My God, where’s the roof to jump from? Are you serious? Now, that said, George Soros and Al Gore come to mind. Ring a bell??
Talk about a conspiracy theory!!!

By: Rob N. Hood

Rob N. Hood — Tue, 04 Aug 2009 22:00:52 +0000

“The liberty of democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic State itself. That, in its essence, is Fascism - ownership of government by an individual, by a group or by any controlling private power.” -FDR

By: Rob N. Hood

Rob N. Hood — Tue, 04 Aug 2009 12:59:54 +0000

THIS is the last nail in the coffin…, not some paranoid fantasy about a world-wide conspiracy re: global warming. This folks is REAL:

Washington, DC–The American Independent Business Alliance, a non-profit organization helping communities design and implement programs to support independent locally-owned businesses, today filed a friend-of-the-court brief in Citizens United v. FEC, No. 08-205, a case in which the Court has taken the unusual step of requesting reargument to overturn long-standing First Amendment doctrines regulating the engagement of for-profit corporations in political campaigns.

The brief argues that the Court’s invitation to overrule key First Amendment precedents would undermine, rather than advance, First Amendment values by granting corporations the power to use huge corporate treasury funds in electoral campaigns even though such funds were not accumulated for political purposes. Elevating corporations to the status of citizens has no constitutional basis and would harm not only citizens, but America’s small businesses.

“In a democracy, citizens should determine the rules governing the economic marketplace,” said Brenda Wright, Director of the Democracy Program at Demos and one of the counsel for AMIBA. “The Supreme Court is threatening to reverse this key assumption of democracy and give for-profit corporations, with their enormous economic clout, unbridled power to influence who will be elected to office to govern the citizenry. We urge the Court to honor the First Amendment precedents ensuring that citizens, not corporations, exercise sovereign power in our democracy.”

By: Paul Wenum

Paul Wenum — Wed, 29 Jul 2009 03:47:29 +0000

Rob is a work “not in progress.” He is regressing in untrained thought. He must watch MSN.com where hate spews from their mouths.

By: Rob N. Hood

Rob N. Hood — Tue, 28 Jul 2009 14:49:23 +0000

Dan- the middle clas is the goose laying the perpetual golden egg for the elite. Have no fear my paranoid friend, I don’t think they are that stupid to kill that goose. They may be THAT greedy to want to, but hopefully not that stupid.

Now of course in your dsytopian outlook, the ultimate goal of the elite is to create another evil communistic wasteland where only one percent or less rule and benfit (think Russia and China, who both BTW are now in varying degrees embracing US style capitalism and will continue to do so barring some kind of very bad global depression). Even though the good ol’ US of A is clearly at that point, more or less (more than less), under the guise of said capitalism. So you see- why fear something that may not occur over something that IS occurring right before your very eyes? Well, I can’t answer that for you…

By: Dan

Dan — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 03:17:31 +0000

Cap and Trade legislation is just another wack at the middle class. It is not intended to save the environment, but to have more control over our everyday lives. They want to destroy the middle class, and this legislation will be the last nail in the coffin.

By: Neil F.

Neil F. — Mon, 20 Jul 2009 03:01:30 +0000

Rob:
I always thought you were pretty smart the way that you steer a conversation away from the original subject.
It’s not your intelligence I question. It is your beliefs, and motives that I wonder about.

By: Neil F.

Neil F. — Sun, 19 Jul 2009 03:56:32 +0000

Let’s see how that young thin ice is doing.
http://nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/images/daily_images/N_timeseries.png
Melting rapidly?
No.
Melting at the same rate as the old thick ice of 07-08?
No.
Anything unusual about this season’s melt?
No.
Prediction of rapid melt-off materializing?
No.
Are any of the dire predictions of AGW alarmists coming even close?
No.
Face it AGW true believers, there is no evidence that your pet theory is true. In fact the evidence against your pet theory is mounting. It’s time to throw in the towel.
If the planet was warming, and the alarmists were proven correct, I would give up on my opposition and join you. Really I would.
But the shoe is on the other foot. If you continue to hold onto this theory you will be in complete denial of reality.

By: Neil F.

Neil F. — Sun, 19 Jul 2009 00:32:59 +0000

Rob:
You almost did it to me again! But I’m going to stick to the issue.
This is about the carbon tax or cap and trade. Both are based on the theory that production of CO2 is warming the atmosphere.
They are both “solutions” to a problem that does not exist.
The world is not warming, and in fact is cooling.
Hmm, lets see, CO2 is still on the rise, but the world isn’t warming.
On the other hand, the activity of the Sun is very low and nobody knows when it will pick up again, and the world isn’t warming.
I’m just struggling to figure out which of those two things drive our climate.
Is it a trace gas in our atmosphere, or is it that huge orb of plasma 93,000,000 mi. away at the center of our solar system?
You know that all the worlds major scientists are in consensus that it’s the trace gas.
Before Capernacus, the consensus was that the universe revolved around us.

By: Rob N. hood

Rob N. hood — Sun, 19 Jul 2009 00:09:39 +0000

The article didn’t fully explain what he was talking about. Often Liberal/progressive ideas include real benefits to the middle-class (that’s why the DFL exists) but propaganda muddies the water, so people like you guys fight against your own best interests. But I’ve mentioned that before, and you refuse to even entertain such an idea, let alone research it fully- i.e. not rely on right-wing sources. No wonder so many politicians have given up and sinmply take the corporate money and vote for the big guys. At least they appreciate it. And Neil, stop your lying- you’ve always thought I was stupid.

By: Neil F.

Neil F. — Fri, 17 Jul 2009 11:28:31 +0000

Rob:
You know, I did hastily read your post and I did misunderstand something. I carefully re-read it. The last line of Mr. Stokes comment raised my eyebrows.
“In contrast, the cost of a revenue-neutral carbon tax would be clearly known. With unemployment at 9.5% and consumer spending down, using carbon revenues to boost every worker’s take-home pay will help address both the climate and the economic crisis.”

This makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. Come on man! You name one instance of any kind of tax going towards boosting ANY workers take home pay ever. That’s just not how it works!
I don’t know how you can take things like this seriously. I mean, come on, I disagree with 99% of everything that you say, but I never thought you were stupid.

By: Neil F.

Neil F. — Fri, 17 Jul 2009 03:41:08 +0000

Paul:
You’re right, there is some light. Here is a little bit:
http://www.media.rice.edu/media/NewsBot.asp?MODE=VIEW&ID=12794&SnID=1419357327
“In a nutshell, theoretical models cannot explain what we observe in the geological record,” said oceanographer Gerald Dickens, a co-author of the study and professor of Earth science at Rice University. “There appears to be something fundamentally wrong with the way temperature and carbon are linked in climate models.”

By: Paul Wenum

Paul Wenum — Fri, 17 Jul 2009 03:31:07 +0000

I agree. Damage will be inflicted, however, I see light at the end of the tunnel as peoples eyes open up. By the way, I hope “the light” is not a freight train coming our way! Later.

By: Neil F.

Neil F. — Fri, 17 Jul 2009 02:45:44 +0000

Paul:
I don’t think that time is going to come soon enough. Serious damage will be done before that happens, I’m afraid.

By: Paul Wenum

Paul Wenum — Fri, 17 Jul 2009 02:19:51 +0000

“I like lead.” I eat it in my venison every year. Neil, Take heart. Once the truth is know on the costs and how it affects the normal people, truth will prevail. Always has, always will. That said, there will be speed bumps in the road.