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	<title>Comments on: The Waxman-Markey Cap and Trade Swindle</title>
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		<title>By: paul wenum</title>
		<link>http://www.globalclimatescam.com/2009/06/the-waxman-makey-cap-and-trade-swindle/comment-page-1/#comment-2630</link>
		<dc:creator>paul wenum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 05:18:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is quite apparent that you do not live in the &quot;real world&quot;.  That&#039;s  all I have to say.  Someday, you will understand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is quite apparent that you do not live in the &#8220;real world&#8221;.  That&#8217;s  all I have to say.  Someday, you will understand.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob N. hood</title>
		<link>http://www.globalclimatescam.com/2009/06/the-waxman-makey-cap-and-trade-swindle/comment-page-1/#comment-2626</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob N. hood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 02:06:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You should be a lobbyist.  They make good money advocating for the rich and powerful.  I&#039;m all for small business.  You don&#039;t seem to know what you want... except for helping defend the rich and powerful.  You&#039;re right, it isn&#039;t brain surgery, so why are you confused?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You should be a lobbyist.  They make good money advocating for the rich and powerful.  I&#8217;m all for small business.  You don&#8217;t seem to know what you want&#8230; except for helping defend the rich and powerful.  You&#8217;re right, it isn&#8217;t brain surgery, so why are you confused?</p>
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		<title>By: paul wenum</title>
		<link>http://www.globalclimatescam.com/2009/06/the-waxman-makey-cap-and-trade-swindle/comment-page-1/#comment-2585</link>
		<dc:creator>paul wenum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 01:48:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Old and tired?  I sense you have never taken a risk in starting a business.  You only believe in what you read.  Small business is the heart of America!!    The way our tax situation is WITHOUT Cap N Trade is forcing some corporations to off shore their operations.  55-65% of every dollar of a companies income goes to salaries, benefits etc. for the employee. This is without the taxes!! If you cut that in half going off shore, for which I am aganist, you make a bigger profit.  That said, if cap n trade is passed the big corps will off shore everything to cover the extra costs they would have to pass on to you and I.  Rob it is not brain surgery, simply common sense to stay in business and make a profit.  Does making a profit make a corporation bad? NO!  If you company doesn&#039;t make a profit you may be let go as well as others. Yes, the small companies that cannot off shore their services will suffer immensely under the additional costs associated with cap n trade.  Do you really want that? Think about it.  You seem to still have a chip on your shoulder as I said in a previous post.  Get rid of it will you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Old and tired?  I sense you have never taken a risk in starting a business.  You only believe in what you read.  Small business is the heart of America!!    The way our tax situation is WITHOUT Cap N Trade is forcing some corporations to off shore their operations.  55-65% of every dollar of a companies income goes to salaries, benefits etc. for the employee. This is without the taxes!! If you cut that in half going off shore, for which I am aganist, you make a bigger profit.  That said, if cap n trade is passed the big corps will off shore everything to cover the extra costs they would have to pass on to you and I.  Rob it is not brain surgery, simply common sense to stay in business and make a profit.  Does making a profit make a corporation bad? NO!  If you company doesn&#8217;t make a profit you may be let go as well as others. Yes, the small companies that cannot off shore their services will suffer immensely under the additional costs associated with cap n trade.  Do you really want that? Think about it.  You seem to still have a chip on your shoulder as I said in a previous post.  Get rid of it will you.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob N. Hood</title>
		<link>http://www.globalclimatescam.com/2009/06/the-waxman-makey-cap-and-trade-swindle/comment-page-1/#comment-2581</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob N. Hood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 17:19:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. I hope we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our monied corporations which dare already to challenge our government to a trial by strength, and bid defiance to the laws of our country.&quot;
- Thomas Jefferson

My point- the deck is stacked against small business.  By who?  Big business.  Who makes sure that continues?  Politicians, both right and left.  That is what I disagree with.  We need to stop defending a corrupt system.  You are defending a system that only existed, in this country, in any substantial way, in the 1800&#039;s.  People like T.J. above knew that it worked that way in England, etc. and that is one reason people came to this country, to get away from.  He was warning people even back then.  And now it has &quot;blossomed&quot; completely, more or less.  What you profess is more myth than fact.  Another old and tired right-wing talking point.  People are starting to wise up, I think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. I hope we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our monied corporations which dare already to challenge our government to a trial by strength, and bid defiance to the laws of our country.&#8221;<br />
- Thomas Jefferson</p>
<p>My point- the deck is stacked against small business.  By who?  Big business.  Who makes sure that continues?  Politicians, both right and left.  That is what I disagree with.  We need to stop defending a corrupt system.  You are defending a system that only existed, in this country, in any substantial way, in the 1800&#8242;s.  People like T.J. above knew that it worked that way in England, etc. and that is one reason people came to this country, to get away from.  He was warning people even back then.  And now it has &#8220;blossomed&#8221; completely, more or less.  What you profess is more myth than fact.  Another old and tired right-wing talking point.  People are starting to wise up, I think.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Wenum</title>
		<link>http://www.globalclimatescam.com/2009/06/the-waxman-makey-cap-and-trade-swindle/comment-page-1/#comment-2578</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Wenum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 03:35:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rob, make money legally, ethically and honestly.  Very simple. Give the consumer what they want, work hard  and you will make money. How much?  That is up to you!  That is the essence of capitalism being able to control YOUR OWN DESTINY not having your neighbor or the government telling you how much you can make.  Be it $12,000.00 or a Million.   Wake up Boy!  I&#039;m always amazed at people that get mad that their neighbor makes more than them.  Maybe, just maybe they work towards a goal to better themselves?  I guess today that is a sin??  Later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob, make money legally, ethically and honestly.  Very simple. Give the consumer what they want, work hard  and you will make money. How much?  That is up to you!  That is the essence of capitalism being able to control YOUR OWN DESTINY not having your neighbor or the government telling you how much you can make.  Be it $12,000.00 or a Million.   Wake up Boy!  I&#8217;m always amazed at people that get mad that their neighbor makes more than them.  Maybe, just maybe they work towards a goal to better themselves?  I guess today that is a sin??  Later.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob N. Hood</title>
		<link>http://www.globalclimatescam.com/2009/06/the-waxman-makey-cap-and-trade-swindle/comment-page-1/#comment-2573</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob N. Hood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 14:07:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your view on capitalism is very narrow.  Not very many Liberals, if any, nor myself, are advocating for anything like communism.  But the way this country has been run for decades now is self-destructive and we are reaping what we&#039;ve sown now.  We need a new way, a better way, and for you to fight that is not helping anyone, including yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your view on capitalism is very narrow.  Not very many Liberals, if any, nor myself, are advocating for anything like communism.  But the way this country has been run for decades now is self-destructive and we are reaping what we&#8217;ve sown now.  We need a new way, a better way, and for you to fight that is not helping anyone, including yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Wenum</title>
		<link>http://www.globalclimatescam.com/2009/06/the-waxman-makey-cap-and-trade-swindle/comment-page-1/#comment-2569</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Wenum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 00:48:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rob, we finally agree!!!  It is not just liberal/rightwing, it is all people that do not read/educate themselves not being taught BOTH SIDES of the issue of global warming etc. from K1-12. Sad, but true.  I know, I have polled my daughters and immediate family.  My brother is a school teacher.   

As to being a capitalist?  I assume your employer makes a profit and because of that you have a job and may get raises?  Take incentive away from a person or a company and see what that brings.  I&#039;m glad to see that you have doubts on cap n trade.  It will cost you and I as well as our immediate families untold thousands a year extra that we don&#039;t have.  Later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob, we finally agree!!!  It is not just liberal/rightwing, it is all people that do not read/educate themselves not being taught BOTH SIDES of the issue of global warming etc. from K1-12. Sad, but true.  I know, I have polled my daughters and immediate family.  My brother is a school teacher.   </p>
<p>As to being a capitalist?  I assume your employer makes a profit and because of that you have a job and may get raises?  Take incentive away from a person or a company and see what that brings.  I&#8217;m glad to see that you have doubts on cap n trade.  It will cost you and I as well as our immediate families untold thousands a year extra that we don&#8217;t have.  Later.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob N. Hood</title>
		<link>http://www.globalclimatescam.com/2009/06/the-waxman-makey-cap-and-trade-swindle/comment-page-1/#comment-2564</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob N. Hood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 14:41:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice attempt at recovery, I&#039;m sure you are&#039;t really as creepy as you seem.  

Funny thing about this type of argument/debate.  You can&#039;t &quot;prove&quot; a future event... ummm, Duh!  Funny also how I have to point that out.  So when you say that, well, it&#039;s a spurious and nonsensical request.  We can debate the science till the cows come home, but ultimately is all falls back to political orientation, i.e. how we view the world.  So to pretend that you are backing the &quot;true and correct science&quot; is equally laughable.

I am not fully sold on Cap and Trade, but hey this is the way America works, and what I have been saying all along.  Can I stop American Capitalism from harming me or stealing my money?  I wish I could but I can&#039;t.  And guess what Paul, it&#039;s not a Liberal or Conservative problem- THEY BOTH DO IT !!!  That has also been my point.  But you and your buddy Neil are deaf and blind to this.  You both defend American capitalism, and yet that is what you are all up in arms about.  Don&#039;t you see that?  Why can&#039;t you see that?  It doesn&#039;t seem to be that complicated to me.  Time to fully wake up Paul.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice attempt at recovery, I&#8217;m sure you are&#8217;t really as creepy as you seem.  </p>
<p>Funny thing about this type of argument/debate.  You can&#8217;t &#8220;prove&#8221; a future event&#8230; ummm, Duh!  Funny also how I have to point that out.  So when you say that, well, it&#8217;s a spurious and nonsensical request.  We can debate the science till the cows come home, but ultimately is all falls back to political orientation, i.e. how we view the world.  So to pretend that you are backing the &#8220;true and correct science&#8221; is equally laughable.</p>
<p>I am not fully sold on Cap and Trade, but hey this is the way America works, and what I have been saying all along.  Can I stop American Capitalism from harming me or stealing my money?  I wish I could but I can&#8217;t.  And guess what Paul, it&#8217;s not a Liberal or Conservative problem- THEY BOTH DO IT !!!  That has also been my point.  But you and your buddy Neil are deaf and blind to this.  You both defend American capitalism, and yet that is what you are all up in arms about.  Don&#8217;t you see that?  Why can&#8217;t you see that?  It doesn&#8217;t seem to be that complicated to me.  Time to fully wake up Paul.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Wenum</title>
		<link>http://www.globalclimatescam.com/2009/06/the-waxman-makey-cap-and-trade-swindle/comment-page-1/#comment-2552</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Wenum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 01:47:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not stalking, simply stating who we are as actual people.  You know who I am and that I&#039;m visible to the public.   Climate change is a natural occurance no matter what Al Gore has to say. Again, I suggest that you read Spencer. Let me know or is he on your &quot;Don&#039;t read list?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not stalking, simply stating who we are as actual people.  You know who I am and that I&#8217;m visible to the public.   Climate change is a natural occurance no matter what Al Gore has to say. Again, I suggest that you read Spencer. Let me know or is he on your &#8220;Don&#8217;t read list?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Rob N. Hood</title>
		<link>http://www.globalclimatescam.com/2009/06/the-waxman-makey-cap-and-trade-swindle/comment-page-1/#comment-2546</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob N. Hood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 18:35:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paranoia will destroy ya.  You have quite the ego there Paul.  I couldn&#039;t care less what you do privately- and even though I never thought about it much that way I&#039;m now glad I didn&#039;t use my real name, etc.  Otherwise you could stalk me like you apparently want to.  Creepy, man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paranoia will destroy ya.  You have quite the ego there Paul.  I couldn&#8217;t care less what you do privately- and even though I never thought about it much that way I&#8217;m now glad I didn&#8217;t use my real name, etc.  Otherwise you could stalk me like you apparently want to.  Creepy, man.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Wenum</title>
		<link>http://www.globalclimatescam.com/2009/06/the-waxman-makey-cap-and-trade-swindle/comment-page-1/#comment-2538</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Wenum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 06:55:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rob, 

I&#039;m &quot;left handed&quot; putting me in my &quot;right brain.&quot;  Be politically actve on your side and I will be active on mine as well.  Let me know how active you really are.  If I knew your name, I could track your performance.  Unfortunately you hide. you know mine and I&#039;m sure you will track everything I do going forward.  Nothing ever changes when it comes to &quot;saying what you will do and doing what you say.!&quot;  Prove me wrong Rob.  Enough said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob, </p>
<p>I&#8217;m &#8220;left handed&#8221; putting me in my &#8220;right brain.&#8221;  Be politically actve on your side and I will be active on mine as well.  Let me know how active you really are.  If I knew your name, I could track your performance.  Unfortunately you hide. you know mine and I&#8217;m sure you will track everything I do going forward.  Nothing ever changes when it comes to &#8220;saying what you will do and doing what you say.!&#8221;  Prove me wrong Rob.  Enough said.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob N. Hood</title>
		<link>http://www.globalclimatescam.com/2009/06/the-waxman-makey-cap-and-trade-swindle/comment-page-1/#comment-2509</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob N. Hood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 20:46:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, so now that I am citing quotes, that&#039;s a problem for you.  When I wasn&#039;t doing that you had a cow.   Hmmmm.   Hard to please, aren&#039;t ya Paul?  You&#039;re remark about me using a manual etc. seems quite paranoid.  Or is that just another lame criticism of someone who doesn&#039;t adhere to your right-wing mind-set.  Why don&#039;t you comment about my comment, and say something constructive about it, how you may even agree with it, and it what way, or not?  The way you guys line up on this site is very narrow-minded.  I don&#039;t say that as an insult, i just can&#039;t think of a better word to use.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, so now that I am citing quotes, that&#8217;s a problem for you.  When I wasn&#8217;t doing that you had a cow.   Hmmmm.   Hard to please, aren&#8217;t ya Paul?  You&#8217;re remark about me using a manual etc. seems quite paranoid.  Or is that just another lame criticism of someone who doesn&#8217;t adhere to your right-wing mind-set.  Why don&#8217;t you comment about my comment, and say something constructive about it, how you may even agree with it, and it what way, or not?  The way you guys line up on this site is very narrow-minded.  I don&#8217;t say that as an insult, i just can&#8217;t think of a better word to use.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Wenum</title>
		<link>http://www.globalclimatescam.com/2009/06/the-waxman-makey-cap-and-trade-swindle/comment-page-1/#comment-2500</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Wenum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 01:41:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rob,   Can you talk with your own voice?  It would help us understand where you are coming from.  Lincoln&#039;s dead and so is Churchill.  What does Ron N Hood personally have to say?  Quoting people is fine but what say you, or were you instructed not to think but to use the &quot;manual&quot; given by othere?  Now that&#039;s &quot;Big Brother.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob,   Can you talk with your own voice?  It would help us understand where you are coming from.  Lincoln&#8217;s dead and so is Churchill.  What does Ron N Hood personally have to say?  Quoting people is fine but what say you, or were you instructed not to think but to use the &#8220;manual&#8221; given by othere?  Now that&#8217;s &#8220;Big Brother.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Rob N. Hood</title>
		<link>http://www.globalclimatescam.com/2009/06/the-waxman-makey-cap-and-trade-swindle/comment-page-1/#comment-2491</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob N. Hood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:26:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, delete everything that doesn&#039;t follow your goose-step mentality.  Could there be truth in what I post?  What are you afraid of?  Beside you made poor Mouse look &quot;absurd.&quot;

Itâ€™s difficult for America to change when almost 50% of all the people can still get whipped into a patriotic frenzy of flag waving, marching bands and parades when it comes to going to war; and yet the same 50% show disdain and ridicule about food stamps for the hungry, free public college education, and free single payer universal health care.

&quot;I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country. As a result of the war corporations have been enthroned and an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until all wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the Republic is destroyed. I feel at this moment more anxiety than ever before, even in the midst of war. God grant that my suspicions may prove groundless.&quot; -Lincoln (letter to Col. William Elkins, Nov. 21, 1864)

&quot;But if we fail in stopping them, then the whole world...will sink into the abyss of a new Dark Age made more sinister...by the lights of a perverted science turned to a religion of war.&quot;  W. Churchill</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, delete everything that doesn&#8217;t follow your goose-step mentality.  Could there be truth in what I post?  What are you afraid of?  Beside you made poor Mouse look &#8220;absurd.&#8221;</p>
<p>Itâ€™s difficult for America to change when almost 50% of all the people can still get whipped into a patriotic frenzy of flag waving, marching bands and parades when it comes to going to war; and yet the same 50% show disdain and ridicule about food stamps for the hungry, free public college education, and free single payer universal health care.</p>
<p>&#8220;I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country. As a result of the war corporations have been enthroned and an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until all wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the Republic is destroyed. I feel at this moment more anxiety than ever before, even in the midst of war. God grant that my suspicions may prove groundless.&#8221; -Lincoln (letter to Col. William Elkins, Nov. 21, 1864)</p>
<p>&#8220;But if we fail in stopping them, then the whole world&#8230;will sink into the abyss of a new Dark Age made more sinister&#8230;by the lights of a perverted science turned to a religion of war.&#8221;  W. Churchill</p>
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		<title>By: Anon A. Mouse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anon A. Mouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 01:48:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have appearantly commented on a post, from one Rob N. Hood, that has been deleted. I am not surprised, as it was off topic and quite absurd.</description>
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