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	<title>Comments on: What You May Not Know About CFLs</title>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jan 2011 16:50:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very true words. CFL&#039;s do not last more than 10% if used upside down and are proven to cause epileptic seizures. they are also only applicable to less than 11% of all light uses. It&quot;s a total fraud the keep the &quot;green = money&quot; scam going.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very true words. CFL&#8217;s do not last more than 10% if used upside down and are proven to cause epileptic seizures. they are also only applicable to less than 11% of all light uses. It&#8221;s a total fraud the keep the &#8220;green = money&#8221; scam going.</p>
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		<title>By: Conry Fan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Conry Fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 10:36:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Appliance bulbs are exempt. I don&#039;t know about cars. Probably exempt too, but it&#039;s madness anyway. I&#039;ve never seen a three-way CFL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Appliance bulbs are exempt. I don&#8217;t know about cars. Probably exempt too, but it&#8217;s madness anyway. I&#8217;ve never seen a three-way CFL.</p>
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		<title>By: jtom</title>
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		<dc:creator>jtom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 02:59:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No incandescent bulbs? So the bulbs in appliances must one day be CFLs.
When one breaks in my refrigerator, I have a mercury contaminated refrigerator. So I&#039;m out the food in it and have to buy a new refrigerator.
And if my oven light or dryer light breaks?  Buy new appliances?
Will all my old but very nostalgic Christmas tree lights now be worthless when a single bulb goes out? Thanks a lot, guys.
Will there be decorator CFLs suitable for all my designer lamps and fixtures? Will three-way CFL bulbs be available?
Will I still be able to buy incandescent bulbs for flashlights, car lights (like the dome light)?
That&#039;s just for starters. Congress wasn&#039;t thinking when it passed this legislation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No incandescent bulbs? So the bulbs in appliances must one day be CFLs.<br />
When one breaks in my refrigerator, I have a mercury contaminated refrigerator. So I&#8217;m out the food in it and have to buy a new refrigerator.<br />
And if my oven light or dryer light breaks?  Buy new appliances?<br />
Will all my old but very nostalgic Christmas tree lights now be worthless when a single bulb goes out? Thanks a lot, guys.<br />
Will there be decorator CFLs suitable for all my designer lamps and fixtures? Will three-way CFL bulbs be available?<br />
Will I still be able to buy incandescent bulbs for flashlights, car lights (like the dome light)?<br />
That&#8217;s just for starters. Congress wasn&#8217;t thinking when it passed this legislation.</p>
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		<title>By: LeahJoy</title>
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		<dc:creator>LeahJoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 21:02:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that the main issue isn&#039;t whether all possible &quot;perspectives&quot; if you will, haven&#039;t been addressed, the point is that banning one kind of bulb and requiring another is ludicrus and wrong and completely un-American.
  It&#039;s like banning salt because it&#039;s &quot;bad for you&quot; (from Demolition Man w/Sylvester Stallone); and that assumption was eventually disproven anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that the main issue isn&#8217;t whether all possible &#8220;perspectives&#8221; if you will, haven&#8217;t been addressed, the point is that banning one kind of bulb and requiring another is ludicrus and wrong and completely un-American.<br />
  It&#8217;s like banning salt because it&#8217;s &#8220;bad for you&#8221; (from Demolition Man w/Sylvester Stallone); and that assumption was eventually disproven anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan McGrath</title>
		<link>http://www.globalclimatescam.com/2008/08/what-you-may-not-know-about-cfls/comment-page-1/#comment-1750</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan McGrath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 19:11:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not familliar with dimmable CFLs, but I&#039;ll look into that. As for the &quot;run away&quot; circuit, Someone I was just talking with at a fair told me about the new CFLs her husband just installed in her house. Specifically, one that, as she put it, &quot;attacked her.&quot; It burned out and burned up, and ejected the glass tubing at her. Sounds like the technology still needs some work.

I&#039;m aware of LED lighting, but the technology isn&#039;t ready for prime time. I&#039;m excited about the prospects, but, like hydrogen cars it&#039;s probably a ways away, and it&#039;s going to be spendy.

Regardless of what lights are more effecient, some people just like incandescents. Banning Edison&#039;s light bulb is an absolutely crazy, tyrannical move by our federal government, and CFLs, the current replacement contain potentially hazardous mercury. It&#039;s crazy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not familliar with dimmable CFLs, but I&#8217;ll look into that. As for the &#8220;run away&#8221; circuit, Someone I was just talking with at a fair told me about the new CFLs her husband just installed in her house. Specifically, one that, as she put it, &#8220;attacked her.&#8221; It burned out and burned up, and ejected the glass tubing at her. Sounds like the technology still needs some work.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m aware of LED lighting, but the technology isn&#8217;t ready for prime time. I&#8217;m excited about the prospects, but, like hydrogen cars it&#8217;s probably a ways away, and it&#8217;s going to be spendy.</p>
<p>Regardless of what lights are more effecient, some people just like incandescents. Banning Edison&#8217;s light bulb is an absolutely crazy, tyrannical move by our federal government, and CFLs, the current replacement contain potentially hazardous mercury. It&#8217;s crazy!</p>
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		<title>By: TDubs</title>
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		<dc:creator>TDubs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 15:44:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Correction #1. Some CFL&#039;s do not need to be supplied 120V to operate and are dimmable. Most are not but you will see the market saturation on dimmable CFL&#039;s begin shortly. Currently the price is about $14 for 4 60w equivalents, or an increase of about 2 dollars a bulb over incand.

Correction #2. Original CFL&#039;s were equipped with a run away circuit. This means the the bulb quit functioning, the circuit would continue to refire it until the circuit failed. This is what lead to many fires. UL listed CFL&#039;s must have a protection against runaway&#039;s such as a digital controller (2 fires, no ignition so it stops) or a thermal shut off (circuit hits 150F it shuts off).

Correction #3 (mentioned above). Led household lights solve these issues to an extent. One issue is that LED&#039;s require a DC rather than an AC input. Each LED light you have in your house needs a convector (usually build into the bulb) which drops the efficiency (sightly) and creates some heat. However, some LED bulbs beginning to be shipped are wired so they have 40 LED&#039;s in series, which drops the Voltage per LED to around 3. This in combination with a circuit to only allow the upper (postive or Hot Phase) section of the AC wave to the LED&#039;s create a extremely effiecient and durable technology. LED&#039;s are proved to last at least 100,000 hours when driven properly.

So is there some misinformation above because you went though two websites instead of looking at all possible solution? Yes. Is the information you presented factual, to an extent. But open your mind a little, Incandescent bulbs are extremely inefficient because of the heat they put out. About 90% of the energy used in a standard incandescent bulb is transferred as heat! The effiency of a 60 Watt bulb is only 14.5 Lumins per Watt. The story for CFL isnt much better, only 16 lumins of light per Watt!

LED&#039;s are the clear winner, which is what i use to light my house! 115 lumins per watt!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correction #1. Some CFL&#8217;s do not need to be supplied 120V to operate and are dimmable. Most are not but you will see the market saturation on dimmable CFL&#8217;s begin shortly. Currently the price is about $14 for 4 60w equivalents, or an increase of about 2 dollars a bulb over incand.</p>
<p>Correction #2. Original CFL&#8217;s were equipped with a run away circuit. This means the the bulb quit functioning, the circuit would continue to refire it until the circuit failed. This is what lead to many fires. UL listed CFL&#8217;s must have a protection against runaway&#8217;s such as a digital controller (2 fires, no ignition so it stops) or a thermal shut off (circuit hits 150F it shuts off).</p>
<p>Correction #3 (mentioned above). Led household lights solve these issues to an extent. One issue is that LED&#8217;s require a DC rather than an AC input. Each LED light you have in your house needs a convector (usually build into the bulb) which drops the efficiency (sightly) and creates some heat. However, some LED bulbs beginning to be shipped are wired so they have 40 LED&#8217;s in series, which drops the Voltage per LED to around 3. This in combination with a circuit to only allow the upper (postive or Hot Phase) section of the AC wave to the LED&#8217;s create a extremely effiecient and durable technology. LED&#8217;s are proved to last at least 100,000 hours when driven properly.</p>
<p>So is there some misinformation above because you went though two websites instead of looking at all possible solution? Yes. Is the information you presented factual, to an extent. But open your mind a little, Incandescent bulbs are extremely inefficient because of the heat they put out. About 90% of the energy used in a standard incandescent bulb is transferred as heat! The effiency of a 60 Watt bulb is only 14.5 Lumins per Watt. The story for CFL isnt much better, only 16 lumins of light per Watt!</p>
<p>LED&#8217;s are the clear winner, which is what i use to light my house! 115 lumins per watt!</p>
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		<title>By: Dan's Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan's Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 18:40:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Minnesota Majority at Conservative Issues Fair...&lt;/strong&gt;

Saturday, September 20th, The Conservative Issues Fair will take place at the Bloomington Airport Hilton (by the Mall of America) from 10:00 â€“ 4:00. This event will feature speakers including po ......</description>
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<p>Saturday, September 20th, The Conservative Issues Fair will take place at the Bloomington Airport Hilton (by the Mall of America) from 10:00 â€“ 4:00. This event will feature speakers including po &#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dan McGrath</title>
		<link>http://www.globalclimatescam.com/2008/08/what-you-may-not-know-about-cfls/comment-page-1/#comment-1743</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan McGrath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 23:03:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;...I must take issue with the article regarding CFLâ€™s. I have CFLâ€™s in almost every application in my house and have been using them for over 6 years....&quot;

What&#039;s to take issue with? We&#039;re presenting facts. The data here comes from GE&#039;s website, and the Federal Environmental Protection Agency (as well as Maine&#039;s Department of Environmental Protection). Would you prefer we swept all this information under the rug and ignored it because you like your CFLs? Great. Use them. That&#039;s the market at work.  Know the pros and cons, and buy the product that matches your wants and needs, but *banning* Edison&#039;s light bulb is crazy. Our government has gone crazy over &quot;greenness.&quot; I&#039;d rather not take the risk with CFLs, thank you very much.

You&#039;re thrilled that CFLs save you money on AC in the summer, but have you considered that they may be costing you more natural gas to heat your home in the winter? That particular example of &quot;energy savings&quot; is probably a wash.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;I must take issue with the article regarding CFLâ€™s. I have CFLâ€™s in almost every application in my house and have been using them for over 6 years&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>What&#8217;s to take issue with? We&#8217;re presenting facts. The data here comes from GE&#8217;s website, and the Federal Environmental Protection Agency (as well as Maine&#8217;s Department of Environmental Protection). Would you prefer we swept all this information under the rug and ignored it because you like your CFLs? Great. Use them. That&#8217;s the market at work.  Know the pros and cons, and buy the product that matches your wants and needs, but *banning* Edison&#8217;s light bulb is crazy. Our government has gone crazy over &#8220;greenness.&#8221; I&#8217;d rather not take the risk with CFLs, thank you very much.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re thrilled that CFLs save you money on AC in the summer, but have you considered that they may be costing you more natural gas to heat your home in the winter? That particular example of &#8220;energy savings&#8221; is probably a wash.</p>
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		<title>By: Marvin Denny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marvin Denny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 03:17:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How do we stop this fraud?  These bulbs don&#039;t last even as long as conventional ones and they cost way more.  Stop the Al Gore bullcrap now!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do we stop this fraud?  These bulbs don&#8217;t last even as long as conventional ones and they cost way more.  Stop the Al Gore bullcrap now!</p>
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		<title>By: hyonmin</title>
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		<dc:creator>hyonmin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 20:44:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The law should be repealed. This represents a clear danger to the US population.  Further all of the CFLs are manufactured in China, giving the US population no path of legal redress.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The law should be repealed. This represents a clear danger to the US population.  Further all of the CFLs are manufactured in China, giving the US population no path of legal redress.<br />
Hyon</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 12:30:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, may I suggest reading this australian article which has a very detailed description of the problems with CFLs.

http://sound.westhost.com/articles/incandescent.htm

Particularly note Rod Elliotts concerns with the fact that CFLs have a powerfactor of 0.5 and so cause problems with power generation and distribution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, may I suggest reading this australian article which has a very detailed description of the problems with CFLs.</p>
<p><a href="http://sound.westhost.com/articles/incandescent.htm" rel="nofollow">http://sound.westhost.com/articles/incandescent.htm</a></p>
<p>Particularly note Rod Elliotts concerns with the fact that CFLs have a powerfactor of 0.5 and so cause problems with power generation and distribution.</p>
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		<title>By: DJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>DJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 22:12:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do not think We need to get too excited with CFL&#039;s because  LED&#039;s are fast aproaching them. Technology is developing them for a lot of uses and they are getting brighter in Luminums....CFL&#039;s will be a thing of the past in 5 years....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not think We need to get too excited with CFL&#8217;s because  LED&#8217;s are fast aproaching them. Technology is developing them for a lot of uses and they are getting brighter in Luminums&#8230;.CFL&#8217;s will be a thing of the past in 5 years&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 21:45:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although I am skeptical about the whole global warming issue and don&#039;t agree that banning the regular light bulb will help I must take issue with the article regarding CFL&#039;s.  I have CFL&#039;s in almost every application in my house and have been using them for over 6 years.  They don&#039;t produce the heat of a regular light bulb which helps air conditioning costs in the summer.  They save a considerable amount of energy for the light output and I have applications, such as my outdoor lighting, where I haven&#039;t had to change a bulb in over four years and they run 10 to 12 hours a night.  I highly recommend using them but there are cheap versions that will disappoint.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although I am skeptical about the whole global warming issue and don&#8217;t agree that banning the regular light bulb will help I must take issue with the article regarding CFL&#8217;s.  I have CFL&#8217;s in almost every application in my house and have been using them for over 6 years.  They don&#8217;t produce the heat of a regular light bulb which helps air conditioning costs in the summer.  They save a considerable amount of energy for the light output and I have applications, such as my outdoor lighting, where I haven&#8217;t had to change a bulb in over four years and they run 10 to 12 hours a night.  I highly recommend using them but there are cheap versions that will disappoint.</p>
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